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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    eMMI wrote:
    right, so I did not go to Tate Modern. :) there was some modern exhibition in the Tate though.. can't remember much of it (cause I didn't get it. :o) but one thing that's stuck with me is a recording where apparently the artist had called two museums (the info desks) or something and then put the phone receivers together when the information ladies answered and then they got all confused.. it was interesting enough but I can't remember the point. :D
    they do shit like that on radio programmes the whole time... how the fuck does that make it art, just cos an 'artist' does it? :confused:
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  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    they do shit like that on radio programmes the whole time... how the fuck does that make it art, just cos an 'artist' does it? :confused:

    it just is art. art doesn't have to be nor should be explained and if you don't get it, you're the dumb one. :rolleyes:

    besides, the artist is obviously trying to reveal a severe flaw in our society by doing that.

    :confused:

    I think.
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    eMMI wrote:
    it just is art. art doesn't have to be nor should be explained and if you don't get it, you're the bumb one. :rolleyes:

    besides, the artist is obviously trying to reveal a severe flaw in our society by doing that.

    :confused:

    I think.
    eh no... he's just stealing what's already been done millions of times. I think I recall doing something like that when I was 8 or something :D does that make me an artiste? :cool: :p
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • V V
    V V Posts: 5,191
    eMMI wrote:
    it just is art. art doesn't have to be nor should be explained and if you don't get it, you're the bumb one. :rolleyes:

    besides, the artist is obviously trying to reveal a severe flaw in our society by doing that.

    :confused:

    I think.

    WELL SAID ! :p

    yep Dunk how come I can make that shit but dont get paid for it ???? hummm :(

    I did hear a bit on the radio this am will check out images shortly . I have to say as silly and easy as it may seem to some I still Love it :D
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    eMMI wrote:
    it just is art. art doesn't have to be nor should be explained and if you don't get it, you're the dumb one. :rolleyes:

    besides, the artist is obviously trying to reveal a severe flaw in our society by doing that.

    :confused:

    I think.


    the only flaw in our society is that that idiot got paid to do that.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    dunkman wrote:
    the only flaw in our society is that that idiot got paid to do that.

    well you don't know if he did. maybe he didn't. maybe he's a true artist and does this stuff cause he feels compelled to?



    :p
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • V V
    V V Posts: 5,191
    dunkman wrote:
    the only flaw in our society is that that idiot got paid to do that.

    its like music, so varied and ppl have such differnt tastes.
    alot of music out there is shite and I wonder how the hell they got paid for it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~ PINK FLUFFY LOVE PSYCHO~~~~~~~~~~
    Astoria,Dublin,Reading 06,Wembley 07,Sheapards Bush & o2 09 thats multiple Jamgasms!
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    eh no... he's just stealing what's already been done millions of times. I think I recall doing something like that when I was 8 or something :D does that make me an artiste? :cool: :p

    yes of course that makes you an artist! especially if you can come up with a nice story about what whatever it is you're doing represents and what metaphors and symbols you're using, you're set. just don't tell anyone what it means cause that would be explaining and that's not to be done. :D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    V V wrote:
    WELL SAID ! :p

    yep Dunk how come I can make that shit but dont get paid for it ???? hummm :(

    I did hear a bit on the radio this am will check out images shortly . I have to say as silly and easy as it may seem to some I still Love it :D

    thanks dear. :) I do actually think that art (whatever the form) shouldn't be over-explained so that everyone can come up with their own conclusions and notions and whatnot.. but some bits of 'art', and especially the artists behind them, seem ridiculous to me cause they don't seem to have a "valid" (in the loss of a better word) point of why they're doing it and try to cover it up by insisting that if you need the piece explained you're silly. (hope that makes sense.)



    and goddess, you should get paid heftily for every artsy thing you do! xxxx
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    V V wrote:
    WELL SAID ! :p

    yep Dunk how come I can make that shit but dont get paid for it ???? hummm :(

    you dont get paid for it because you dont ingratiate yourself to those art circles, you also dont talk 100% shit about something... if I did a piece of art about a monkey eating a unicycle, then i'd call it 'monkey eating a unicycle' and when asked what it represented i'd probably say "well its about us coming back to our roots and getting rid of modernisation, the ambivalence of the setting is to highlight the juxtaposition between primate and inanimate. The monkey has its back turned to us in a defensive manner which is indicative of the modern society, whereas the unicycle has its wheel still spinning in a formulative response to the ever evolving movement of the modern rat-race" just so i could pass it off as something brilliant!!

    but in reality its a monkey eating a unicycle and it looks cool... if the artist just said that i'd have more respect for them...




    me: 'hey picasso, why is that horse in your picture melting and why is his face a clock?'

    pablo: 'cos eet looks cool'

    me: 'aye, i'll give you that you weird fucker'
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    eMMI wrote:
    well you don't know if he did. maybe he didn't. maybe he's a true artist and does this stuff cause he feels compelled to?



    :p


    replace 'artist' with 'mentalist' and you might be on to something :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    dunkman wrote:
    you dont get paid for it because you dont ingratiate yourself to those art circles, you also dont talk 100% shit about something... if I did a piece of art about a monkey eating a unicycle, then i'd call it 'monkey eating a unicycle' and when asked what it represented i'd probably say "well its about us coming back to our roots and getting rid of modernisation, the ambivalence of the setting is to highlight the juxtaposition between primate and inanimate. The monkey has its back turned to us in a defensive manner which is indicative of the modern society, whereas the unicycle has its wheel still spinning in a formulative response to the ever evolving movement of the modern rat-race" just so i could pass it off as something brilliant!!

    but in reality its a monkey eating a unicycle and it looks cool... if the artist just said that i'd have more respect for them...




    me: 'hey picasso, why is that horse in your picture melting and why is his face a clock?'

    pablo: 'cos eet looks cool'

    me: 'aye, i'll give you that you weird fucker'

    :)
    dunkman wrote:
    replace 'artist' with 'mentalist' and you might be on to something :)

    a mentalist with artistic tendencies?
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • Irish Al
    Irish Al Posts: 6,236
    Jesus very high-brow conversation going on here....I'm gone!
    I need a coffee!
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    eMMI wrote:
    :)



    a mentalist with artistic tendencies?

    depends... art is subjective.

    Hirst cut a shark in half and then displayed it in a glass box.
    Butchers cut pigs in half and then display them in shop window.

    i see no difference... hence the subjectiveness.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Irish Al wrote:
    Jesus very high-brow conversation going on here....I'm gone!


    wait wait!!! ehhhh posters, footie, guitars, boobies, strippers, beer and fannies?

    i've reeled ye back in havent i? ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • V V
    V V Posts: 5,191
    Irish Al wrote:
    Jesus very high-brow conversation going on here....I'm gone!

    yeah thick Irish git can only talk about football :p
    ~~~~~~~~~~ PINK FLUFFY LOVE PSYCHO~~~~~~~~~~
    Astoria,Dublin,Reading 06,Wembley 07,Sheapards Bush & o2 09 thats multiple Jamgasms!
  • V V
    V V Posts: 5,191
    dunkman wrote:
    depends... art is subjective.

    Hirst cut a shark in half and then displayed it in a glass box.
    Butchers cut pigs in half and then display them in shop window.

    i see no difference... hence the subjectiveness.

    in his defence, neither does Hirst !

    some artist are taking the piss there is humour in their work. only some, some are rubbish and others amazing !
    ~~~~~~~~~~ PINK FLUFFY LOVE PSYCHO~~~~~~~~~~
    Astoria,Dublin,Reading 06,Wembley 07,Sheapards Bush & o2 09 thats multiple Jamgasms!
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    V V wrote:
    in his defence, neither does Hirst !

    some artist are taking the piss there is humour in their work. only some, some are rubbish and others amazing !

    it's the artists who take themselves too seriously who are the shite ones.


    now, this has nothing to do with the thread topic (*best British accent* sorry! :o) but it's too cute not to share! :Dhttp://virtualhug.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/nom-nom-nom.jpg
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    dunkman wrote:
    wait wait!!! ehhhh posters, footie, guitars, boobies, strippers, beer and fannies?

    i've reeled ye back in havent i? ;)

    you got me interested :D
    they are all artistic in someway...
    Did you see Ronaldo's dive on the weekend! the artistic skill in that was amazing
    and all those old dude who painted heaps... lots of boobies and the like...
    Beer, a good beer is very artistic. The way it paints the pallet, and gets you thinking about its creation

    ok, i will let dunk and emmi get back to some real artistic arguments now... :D
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  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    vedder_soup wrote:
    you got me interested :D
    they are all artistic in someway...
    Did you see Ronaldo's dive on the weekend! the artistic skill in that was amazing
    and all those old dude who painted heaps... lots of boobies and the like...
    Beer, a good beer is very artistic. The way it paints the pallet, and gets you thinking about its creation

    ok, i will let dunk and emmi get back to some real artistic arguments now... :D

    nah, I'm just looking at pictures of celebrity lookalikes, not really that interested in arguments at the moment. :p besides, dunk (or anyone) would beat me easily by just using a few fancy phrases or words..
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."

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