Bear Kills Oilsands Suncor Worker In Northern Alberta

lukin2006

Bear Kills Oilsands Suncor Worker In Northern Alberta

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/05/08/bear-kills-oilsands-suncor-fort-mcmurray_n_5284552.html

JimmyV

It is tragic that she was killed - but also that the bear was put down.

Idris

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

hedonist

JimmyV said:

It is tragic that she was killed - but also that the bear was put down.

Yeah, no shit - the bear was just being a fucking bear.

No matter how many precautions and the like are taken, nothing is guaranteed safe when it comes to wildlife.

Cosmo

The bear was doing what bears do... basically, because they are bears.
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Also, when you go into places where bears live... you need to be exercise a great level of caution... especially this time of year when they are coming out of hibernation. They are hungry and very grumpy... and mostly stems from the fact that they are bears.

chadwick

too bad the bear was killed. something else that is a drag... too bad a ceo hasn't been eaten, yes/no?

Smellyman

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

Cosmo

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

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We can park our cars 2 blocks away and make it look like no one is home and sit in the basement with a gun so when the bear comes in, we can shoot him and still have a clear conscience.

hedonist

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

It's not just the oilsands, it's pretty much anywhere human beings have the potential to encounter bears (or cougars, or what have you).

Comes with the territory.

josevolution

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

Why don't you go up there & confront the Bears you're self since you think it's such an easy thing to do ...

lukin2006

josevolution said:

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

Why don't you go up there & confront the Bears you're self since you think it's such an easy thing to do ...

I think he was being sarcastic.

Godfather.

Cosmo said:

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

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We can park our cars 2 blocks away and make it look like no one is home and sit in the basement with a gun so when the bear comes in, we can shoot him and still have a clear conscience.

HHAHHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAH

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Godfather.

evsgjamm

Idris said:

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

What do you think should happen in this case?

lukin2006

They don't even know if they got the correct bear ... they are conducting test to see if that was the bear. Maybe people can quit moving into their habitat and forcing them to keep moving, and if we do move into their habitat then learn to coexist with them ... Canada's a great big country with a small population. Also from what I've read bears were common in this area yet the workers in this area were not very prepared for a bear encounter ... maybe keeping bear spray nearby for example. I'm sure there is plenty that can done to protect workers who are working in known bear habitat.

hedonist

I didn't even know about the not-sure-if-this-is-THE-bear thing. Kinda fucked up either way, both ways.

As to co-existing, maybe it's possible to a certain extent, but like you said, it's their (natural) habitat. Pretty likely the spray won't work at some point, or reactions will be slow, and on.

Makes me sad to kill animals for simply being animals.

Godfather.

remember that guy that so-existed with the bears in alaska ? and brought his new girlfriend out to co-exist and they ended up being bear food and it was caught on the guy's camra audio...kind of freaky.

Godfather.

lukin2006

Godfather. said:

remember that guy that so-existed with the bears in alaska ? and brought his new girlfriend out to co-exist and they ended up being bear food and it was caught on the guy's camra audio...kind of freaky.

Godfather.

yeah ... I remember that, they were also grizzlies. Black bears have a tendency to stay when people move into their territory, grizzlies usually just move on, which is a big reason why the grizzly population is shrinking. There are precaution people can take to minimize the risk in these parts ... but nothing is guaranteed.

Godfather.

lukin2006 said:

Godfather. said:

remember that guy that so-existed with the bears in alaska ? and brought his new girlfriend out to co-exist and they ended up being bear food and it was caught on the guy's camra audio...kind of freaky.

Godfather.

yeah ... I remember that, they were also grizzlies. Black bears have a tendency to stay when people move into their territory, grizzlies usually just move on, which is a big reason why the grizzly population is shrinking. There are precaution people can take to minimize the risk in these parts ... but nothing is guaranteed.

by the way I agree with "the bears were there first" idea and it's a shame they had to shoot it but I am also am a supporter of jobs and progress, kind of a tuff one for me.

Godfather.

Cosmo

evsgjamm said:

Idris said:

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

What do you think should happen in this case?

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The human in the equation should exercise great caution. The human is the one that knows he/she is in a hostile environment at a time in the year where hibernating bears are awakening out of their slumber and are mighty hungry and will eat the first thing they can catch. The human needs to understand that... because the bear does not employ reason or logic and is gonna do what the bear is gonna do... eat something... anything.

dignin

Cosmo said:

evsgjamm said:

Idris said:

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

What do you think should happen in this case?

...
The human in the equation should exercise great caution. The human is the one that knows he/she is in a hostile environment at a time in the year where hibernating bears are awakening out of their slumber and are mighty hungry and will eat the first thing they can catch. The human needs to understand that... because the bear does not employ reason or logic and is gonna do what the bear is gonna do... eat something... anything.

Sounds to me like this attack could have happened to anyone. Very aggressive black bear and a rare attack. Wrong place at the wrong time. I don't see how we can blame the victim.


"Those who saw the attack said it happened quickly. No one saw where the bear came from.

Mike Ewald, an investigator with Alberta Fish and Wildlife, said Weafer’s co-workers tried to scare the bear off using fire extinguishers, a water cannon and air horn — “all general things that should scare it off,” Ewald noted.

Employees told him the bear would shy off for a bit, but kept coming back, eventually killing the woman.

“This bear was very determined,” Ewald said, adding that the attack lasted about an hour."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/lorna-weafer-bear-attack-victim-aspired-to-be-a-psychologist-1.2638210

brianlux

As a kid of about 10 years of age I once found myself facing a bear on the other side of a small creek. I was alone- had wandered away from the campground- and it scared the hell out of me. I did the foolish thing which was to run like hell and luckily was left alone. To this day, I get nervous when I see bears but that said, I still believe killing this bear or any bear is the wrong choice. We keep trying to beat nature into submission and control it. I find that as tragic as someone being killed in the wild.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Been face to face with bears on several occasions. Most notably, a massive black bear on the Whistler Golf Course. It popped out by our tee box and proceeded to move towards our green. It was huge... and had absolutely no interest in us.

Thank Gawd . Because if the bear had wanted us... it could have had us.

We are all guilty of contributing to the oil industry that some people make their living with. It's not easy work on the oil sands and, I'm sorry to say, if bears are venturing on to the property and eating people trying to make ends meet... they need to be put down. This is regrettable, but non-negotiable.

brianlux

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Been face to face with bears on several occasions. Most notably, a massive black bear on the Whistler Golf Course. It popped out by our tee box and proceeded to move towards our green. It was huge... and had absolutely no interest in us.

Thank Gawd . Because if the bear had wanted us... it could have had us.

We are all guilty of contributing to the oil industry that some people make their living with. It's not easy work on the oil sands and, I'm sorry to say, if bears are venturing on to the property and eating people trying to make ends meet... they need to be put down. This is regrettable, but non-negotiable.

I'm a bit surprised to read this firm a death sentence from you, Thirty Bills, toward these wild animals doing what is natural. Whose property are we talking about? Is it not there right to be there also? I understand people wanting to protect themselves- that is also natural. But why put them down? What about at the very least why transporting them elsewhere? How about preventative measures like, perhaps, dogs trained to sound alerts?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Brian...

I said regrettable. This wasn't an incident where the worker wandered off into the woods hiking and stumbled across a bear. From what I read, the bear attacked the woman on the job site- an area that typical bears want to distance themselves from. This bear clearly had developed a different disposition towards humans.

Relocating animals doesn't always work- in particular with bears that have grown aggressive towards humans. Tagged, they often find themselves back or in another 'trouble' spot.

The bears are doing what is natural to them and we are doing what is natural to us by protecting ourselves. Your dog idea is a good idea for future incidents, but with this incident on record...

You know... we can also stop consuming products reliant on oil for production, shipping, or operating. I'm not saying you have (although you might have)... but it's a little much to suggest our activity in the oil sands is wrong, while at the same time busying ourselves leaving a carbon footprint comparable to that of a small town. That industry exists because we have made it viable. We shouldn't be tossing rocks when we live in glass houses. I'm concerned about our activities as well, but short of not having my vehicle idle... I'm not helping much.

chadwick

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Been face to face with bears on several occasions. Most notably, a massive black bear on the Whistler Golf Course. It popped out by our tee box and proceeded to move towards our green. It was huge... and had absolutely no interest in us.

Thank Gawd . Because if the bear had wanted us... it could have had us.

We are all guilty of contributing to the oil industry that some people make their living with. It's not easy work on the oil sands and, I'm sorry to say, if bears are venturing on to the property and eating people trying to make ends meet... they need to be put down. This is regrettable, but non-negotiable.

golfers drink tee by the box full? you smoke green when golfing?..... (fucking nice!)
no wonder the bear proceeded towards it, bears get high.

actually....most notably.....why, sir, were you on a golf course? i am surprised the bear did not want y'alls golfing clothes

Thirty Bills Unpaid

chadwick said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Been face to face with bears on several occasions. Most notably, a massive black bear on the Whistler Golf Course. It popped out by our tee box and proceeded to move towards our green. It was huge... and had absolutely no interest in us.

Thank Gawd . Because if the bear had wanted us... it could have had us.

We are all guilty of contributing to the oil industry that some people make their living with. It's not easy work on the oil sands and, I'm sorry to say, if bears are venturing on to the property and eating people trying to make ends meet... they need to be put down. This is regrettable, but non-negotiable.

golfers drink tee by the box full? you smoke green when golfing?..... (fucking nice!)
no wonder the bear proceeded towards it, bears get high.

actually....most notably.....why, sir, were you on a golf course? i am surprised the bear did not want y'alls golfing clothes

haha!

Chadwick... I knew I'd get in your crosshairs one day after reading your disproval of the game of golf.

I can say the following:
1. I offer no apologies for my enthusiasm to hit a small ball, running after it, and hitting it again. I am a moron for playing the game of golf... but a moron I am!
2. There are definitely some golfers that I wouldn't mind seeing old blackie chase after! In particular, the really slow ones or the real pretentious ones with the really bad swings and fat wallets (or the really slow and pretentious ones with the really bad swings and fat wallets).

chadwick

30 bills undone,

my opinion on golfing means nothing. it is just a crock of crap & nothing more. although the water wasted on golf courses does drive me batshit crazy as does the chemicals put down for beautiful & short green grass. one thing i see whacky in golfing is the clothing chosen to sport around in. pretentious wallets crammed in their fancy little slacks... geewiz, man! throw a bench vice at these fancy boys.

now if golfers are ate by bears like how bears eat tar sand fuckers, then i think we'll be ok as long as the bears aren't destroyed

btw, sir, i have no crosshairs. just giving you static is all. polo shirts, slacks, funny little hats & shoes... good god, man
keep on keeping on after the balls you hit around. enjoy
plz dress like a mountain man or a slob



but yes i truly dislike the way golfers dress
yes i do like bears eating oil ppl

Jason P

In golf you get to drink beer and smoke cigars while driving around in a mechanized vehicle ... how can anyone not like a sport that involves those three tenants?

hedonist

Jason P said:

In golf you get to drink beer and smoke cigars while driving around in a mechanized vehicle ... how can anyone not like a sport that involves those three tenants?

youtube.com/watch?v=XmWgskZFkh4

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Jason P said:

In golf you get to drink beer and smoke cigars while driving around in a mechanized vehicle ... how can anyone not like a sport that involves those three tenants?

Don't ever forget that you get to swear a lot, pee behind trees, and make fun of your friends.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

chadwick said:

30 bills undone,

my opinion on golfing means nothing. it is just a crock of crap & nothing more. although the water wasted on golf courses does drive me batshit crazy as does the chemicals put down for beautiful & short green grass. one thing i see whacky in golfing is the clothing chosen to sport around in. pretentious wallets crammed in their fancy little slacks... geewiz, man! throw a bench vice at these fancy boys.

now if golfers are ate by bears like how bears eat tar sand fuckers, then i think we'll be ok as long as the bears aren't destroyed

btw, sir, i have no crosshairs. just giving you static is all. polo shirts, slacks, funny little hats & shoes... good god, man
keep on keeping on after the balls you hit around. enjoy
plz dress like a mountain man or a slob



but yes i truly dislike the way golfers dress
yes i do like bears eating oil ppl

My shirt is always untucked and I'm in shorts no matter how the weather is. That's how I roll!

I'm just having fun back at you, Chadwick! I'm comfortable with our on-line friendship. I never thought you intended me malice!