Bear Kills Oilsands Suncor Worker In Northern Alberta

lukin2006

Bear Kills Oilsands Suncor Worker In Northern Alberta

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/05/08/bear-kills-oilsands-suncor-fort-mcmurray_n_5284552.html

JimmyV

It is tragic that she was killed - but also that the bear was put down.

Idris

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

hedonist

JimmyV said:

It is tragic that she was killed - but also that the bear was put down.

Yeah, no shit - the bear was just being a fucking bear.

No matter how many precautions and the like are taken, nothing is guaranteed safe when it comes to wildlife.

Cosmo

The bear was doing what bears do... basically, because they are bears.
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Also, when you go into places where bears live... you need to be exercise a great level of caution... especially this time of year when they are coming out of hibernation. They are hungry and very grumpy... and mostly stems from the fact that they are bears.

chadwick

too bad the bear was killed. something else that is a drag... too bad a ceo hasn't been eaten, yes/no?

Smellyman

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

Cosmo

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

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We can park our cars 2 blocks away and make it look like no one is home and sit in the basement with a gun so when the bear comes in, we can shoot him and still have a clear conscience.

hedonist

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

It's not just the oilsands, it's pretty much anywhere human beings have the potential to encounter bears (or cougars, or what have you).

Comes with the territory.

josevolution

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

Why don't you go up there & confront the Bears you're self since you think it's such an easy thing to do ...

lukin2006

josevolution said:

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

Why don't you go up there & confront the Bears you're self since you think it's such an easy thing to do ...

I think he was being sarcastic.

Godfather.

Cosmo said:

Smellyman said:

We are fucking up the land to slowly with these oilsands, can we just shoot the fucking bear already.

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We can park our cars 2 blocks away and make it look like no one is home and sit in the basement with a gun so when the bear comes in, we can shoot him and still have a clear conscience.

HHAHHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAH

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Godfather.

evsgjamm

Idris said:

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

What do you think should happen in this case?

lukin2006

They don't even know if they got the correct bear ... they are conducting test to see if that was the bear. Maybe people can quit moving into their habitat and forcing them to keep moving, and if we do move into their habitat then learn to coexist with them ... Canada's a great big country with a small population. Also from what I've read bears were common in this area yet the workers in this area were not very prepared for a bear encounter ... maybe keeping bear spray nearby for example. I'm sure there is plenty that can done to protect workers who are working in known bear habitat.

hedonist

I didn't even know about the not-sure-if-this-is-THE-bear thing. Kinda fucked up either way, both ways.

As to co-existing, maybe it's possible to a certain extent, but like you said, it's their (natural) habitat. Pretty likely the spray won't work at some point, or reactions will be slow, and on.

Makes me sad to kill animals for simply being animals.

Godfather.

remember that guy that so-existed with the bears in alaska ? and brought his new girlfriend out to co-exist and they ended up being bear food and it was caught on the guy's camra audio...kind of freaky.

Godfather.

lukin2006

Godfather. said:

remember that guy that so-existed with the bears in alaska ? and brought his new girlfriend out to co-exist and they ended up being bear food and it was caught on the guy's camra audio...kind of freaky.

Godfather.

yeah ... I remember that, they were also grizzlies. Black bears have a tendency to stay when people move into their territory, grizzlies usually just move on, which is a big reason why the grizzly population is shrinking. There are precaution people can take to minimize the risk in these parts ... but nothing is guaranteed.

Godfather.

lukin2006 said:

Godfather. said:

remember that guy that so-existed with the bears in alaska ? and brought his new girlfriend out to co-exist and they ended up being bear food and it was caught on the guy's camra audio...kind of freaky.

Godfather.

yeah ... I remember that, they were also grizzlies. Black bears have a tendency to stay when people move into their territory, grizzlies usually just move on, which is a big reason why the grizzly population is shrinking. There are precaution people can take to minimize the risk in these parts ... but nothing is guaranteed.

by the way I agree with "the bears were there first" idea and it's a shame they had to shoot it but I am also am a supporter of jobs and progress, kind of a tuff one for me.

Godfather.

Cosmo

evsgjamm said:

Idris said:

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

What do you think should happen in this case?

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The human in the equation should exercise great caution. The human is the one that knows he/she is in a hostile environment at a time in the year where hibernating bears are awakening out of their slumber and are mighty hungry and will eat the first thing they can catch. The human needs to understand that... because the bear does not employ reason or logic and is gonna do what the bear is gonna do... eat something... anything.

dignin

Cosmo said:

evsgjamm said:

Idris said:

They killed the bear, that just ain't right.

What do you think should happen in this case?

...
The human in the equation should exercise great caution. The human is the one that knows he/she is in a hostile environment at a time in the year where hibernating bears are awakening out of their slumber and are mighty hungry and will eat the first thing they can catch. The human needs to understand that... because the bear does not employ reason or logic and is gonna do what the bear is gonna do... eat something... anything.

Sounds to me like this attack could have happened to anyone. Very aggressive black bear and a rare attack. Wrong place at the wrong time. I don't see how we can blame the victim.


"Those who saw the attack said it happened quickly. No one saw where the bear came from.

Mike Ewald, an investigator with Alberta Fish and Wildlife, said Weafer’s co-workers tried to scare the bear off using fire extinguishers, a water cannon and air horn — “all general things that should scare it off,” Ewald noted.

Employees told him the bear would shy off for a bit, but kept coming back, eventually killing the woman.

“This bear was very determined,” Ewald said, adding that the attack lasted about an hour."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/lorna-weafer-bear-attack-victim-aspired-to-be-a-psychologist-1.2638210

brianlux

As a kid of about 10 years of age I once found myself facing a bear on the other side of a small creek. I was alone- had wandered away from the campground- and it scared the hell out of me. I did the foolish thing which was to run like hell and luckily was left alone. To this day, I get nervous when I see bears but that said, I still believe killing this bear or any bear is the wrong choice. We keep trying to beat nature into submission and control it. I find that as tragic as someone being killed in the wild.