Should racist comments force LA Clippers owner to sell team?

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    and gonna force him to sell
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    Wow
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i was totally wrong ... hahaha

    will see if he fights it ...
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    kind of harsh penalty there even if the guy is 81 years old. banned for being an asshole. that's an interesting precedent to set.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pjhawks said:

    kind of harsh penalty there even if the guy is 81 years old. banned for being an asshole. that's an interesting precedent to set.

    i think it's more related to the associated backlash ... and how big this story got basically forcing the nba's hand ...
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    In their frenzy, NBC can't even put proper sentences together on this.

    "The comments, where the owner seemed to say he didn't want his much-younger girlfriend hanging out with Black people on Instagram or bringing them to games, were first by TMZ and then in another recording posted on the website Deadspin.

    The NBA had said if it was unable to authenticate the tapes, but Sterling's wife told KABC-TV in Los Angeles that it was her husband on the recordings."

    Idiots.

    Agree with pjhawks on the precedent thought. Door's wide open now! I'd rather people be penalized for their actions vs. their words. People would've let their disgust be known.

  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    look, one way or another, sterling was gonna have to sell...they've already lost all their advertisers and no players are gonna wanna play for him...remember, these sports leagues are not about sports they're about money
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,844
    norm said:

    look, one way or another, sterling was gonna have to sell...they've already lost all their advertisers and no players are gonna wanna play for him...remember, these sports leagues are not about sports they're about money

    Yep. I feel like this whole situation would have worked itself out on its own. He will have no choice but to sell.



  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Lifetime ban, $2.5M fine, and potentially forced to sell the team:
    http://nba.si.com/2014/04/29/donald-sterling-suspension-fine-adam-silver-clippers/?eref=sihp
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Good grief. Talk about overkill. I don't agree with what he said, but it was a private conversation and we do have a thing called the 1st Ammendment.

    Too bad for Sterling that he doesn't play WR for the Eagles ...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I didn't see the press conference. Did Adam Silver make the announcement mounted upon his high horse atop Mt. Pious?

    I wonder if the other owners will fight the ban. As someone else noted, half of them are guilty of moral sins as bad or worse. Precedent has now been set.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    edited April 2014
    sterling has a 1st amendment right to say whatever he wants

    the nba has the 1st amendment right to suspend him and rid him from their league

    now stop with the horseshit 1st amendment defense
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Jason P said:

    Good grief. Talk about overkill. I don't agree with what he said, but it was a private conversation and we do have a thing called the 1st Ammendment.

    Too bad for Sterling that he doesn't play WR for the Eagles ...

    Do you understand what the 1st amendment is?
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    This precendent is also going to fuck the players in the future when TMZ releases their private conversations.
  • dmaradona10dmaradona10 Posts: 915
    The NBA has now set a precedence, now anytime a player says something racist, sexist, or homophobic etc...they should be banned for life. Also, players that have a DWI, assaulted, raped, or murdered someone should be banned as well, considering those crimes are more heinous in comparison.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529

    The NBA has now set a precedence, now anytime a player says something racist, sexist, or homophobic etc...they should be banned for life. Also, players that have a DWI, assaulted, raped, or murdered someone should be banned as well, considering those crimes are more heinous in comparison.

    exactly. what happens when a black player calls a white guy 'homey' or 'cracker' - what do you do then?

    look not saying he shouldn't have gotten sanctions but a lifetime ban is awfully harsh for his so-called crime in my opinion.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    to all you guys who say this is harsh: the response is yes, you're right however, when you look at this objectively - it's really not that big of a deal for him ... one way or another - they weren't gonna want him at the games ... so, that punishment was a given ... the fine is peanuts to someone like him ... he doesn't care ... and really - the notion that this sets some kind of dangerous precedence is out of line ... this was merely a publicity response by the league to make sure their fan base doesn't completely revolt ... that's it ...

    sterling is gonna be fine ... it's not like he's going to jail or anything ...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Forbes has the Clippers franchise value at $575M. They are already predicting a bidding war might reach as high as $1B.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Clippers fans have to be overjoyed. I guessing fans of the Houston Astros and Miami Marlins are buying a lot of spy gear at this moment.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    pjhawks said:

    The NBA has now set a precedence, now anytime a player says something racist, sexist, or homophobic etc...they should be banned for life. Also, players that have a DWI, assaulted, raped, or murdered someone should be banned as well, considering those crimes are more heinous in comparison.

    exactly. what happens when a black player calls a white guy 'homey' or 'cracker' - what do you do then?

    look not saying he shouldn't have gotten sanctions but a lifetime ban is awfully harsh for his so-called crime in my opinion.
    I don't really agree. Right or wrong, employers and employees are treated very differently.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited April 2014
    polaris_x said:

    to all you guys
    who say this is harsh: the response is yes, you're right however, when you look at this objectively - it's really not that big of a deal for him ... one way or another - they weren't gonna want him at the games ... so, that punishment was a given ... the fine is peanuts to someone like him ... he doesn't care ... and really - the notion that this sets some kind of dangerous precedence is out of line ... this was merely a publicity response by the league to make sure their fan base doesn't completely revolt ... that's it ...

    sterling is gonna be fine ... it's not like he's going to jail or anything ...

    Well put.


    Guess he can afford a really good disguise and sneak in. :D

    Chad did you have point to your picks showing Sterling with his two women's? Cause you know we'd love to get your perspective.

    Course one thing would be hope it was worth it. Doubt it.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    posted yesterday in the AET...

    D'Alessandro: Donald Sterling's candid moment? It's business as usual, and NBA business is often ugly

    Adam Silver has a parade of laudable business partners that he inherited from his morally ambiguous predecessor, David Stern.

    The new NBA commissioner has a business partner in Washington who doesn’t know the difference between a tax code and "class warfare," who bribes bloggers, slugs fans, bulldozes the neighboring Chinatown population into Virginia so he can help put up more Hooters, and asserts that we should all be grateful for the privilege of subsidizing his team.

    He has a business partner in Orlando who is so righteous he has poured millions into anti-gay marriage initiatives, because gays "keep asking for favors" and "special treatment," and marriage is "not vital to them, in my opinion."

    He has a business partner in Cleveland that made billions in the mortgage business, many of them by passing subprime loans along to the ultimate thieves, Countrywide, which greased the derivative machine that helped destroy the global economy.

    He has a business partner in Oklahoma City who made his billions through fracking, which has been linked to everything from toxic drinking water to earthquakes to climate change, and then screwed landowners out of their royalties when business went bad.

    He has a business partner in Brooklyn who is an oligarch, that special kind of patriot who uses political connections to grab billions in state-owned assets for micropennies on the dollar, leaving much of the population to starve in the feudal cesspool left behind.

    And yes, he has a business partner in Los Angeles who is a slumlord that refused to rent to minorities because they are "not desirable tenants," and because "black tenants smell and attract vermin," and "Mexicans sit around and drink all day," leading to a humongous settlement of a federal housing lawsuit; and who has some scary attitudes toward women, which has led to harassment suits and yet more settlements.

    We’re not here to put Donald Sterling’s racism on a scale with other social sins practiced by Silver’s business partners, which stretch from here to Seattle.

    We can only remind you that everyone already knew that Sterling was a despicable human being. If you didn't know it, you simply weren't paying attention, or – like Stern and Silver and everyone else in the NBA – you chose not to care.

    Racism is an indelible part of what he is. If he issues a thousand mea-culpas today, nothing changes that. He has stood courtside with a what-me-worry visage for decades, because he is part of a lunatic fraternity that always embraced him as a bit eccentric, but always One of Ours.

    So we find this latest example of Sterling spewing his usual vile nonsense not even remotely interesting, or as anything but redundant. This is Donald Sterling we’re talking about. What TMZ captured on tape is not a smoking gun. It is a longstanding business practice.

    Yet his remarks have received a ton of attention, because the people who do business with him suddenly cannot overlook the fact that he is a public embarrassment and a risk to their virtuous enterprise.

    (Pause here for eye roll.)

    Only two things should vex these Men of Basketball.

    One: They never denounced Sterling a decade ago, when his odious viewpoints were already a part of the public record — yet the players took his money, his partners shared in his largesse, and the fans subsidized his business.

    Two: They don’t seem to care that all this evidence of bigotry was obtained via an egregious invasion of Donald the Clown’s privacy, which is a candor test that absolutely none of these Men of Basketball would be able to pass.

    So, better late than never, we go to the torches and pitchforks. Donald has everyone fired up just by being the despicable human being that he is, so expect Silver to punish him for, essentially, free speech. He has the authority to do that within the framework of the NBA constitution — because, you know, Sterling’s latest behavior isn’t in the best interests of the league.

    Just let the record show that until Saturday morning, it was just fine.

    The public response was outrage, and, sure, mostly proportionate. As for the punishment, most of us scratch our heads like LeBron James, the league’s commercial colossus, who says, "There is no room for Donald Sterling in our league."

    Try to keep up, young fella. Clearly, there’s abundant room for all types in your league.

    The other primary cash cow, Michael Jordan, was one of the first owners who had the guts to speak up in the first 24 hours. But MJ, not exactly the world’s foremost expert on perspective, concluded his statement with, "In a league where the majority of players are African-American, we cannot and must not tolerate discrimination at any level."

    It wouldn’t matter if there was one black player, or two. Discrimination is intolerable, period. Unless one of your business partners is Donald Sterling.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    and another thing....

    what kind of first name is "V"?
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    It's all about image and PR (money too), and not just in this industry either.

    I'm curious if this hadn't happened and it was business as usual, what the NAACP would've said to honor Sterling.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    norm said:

    sterling has a 1st amendment right to say whatever he wants

    the nba has the 1st amendment right to suspend him and out him form their league

    now stop with the horseshit 1st amendment defense


    Agreed the guy is a Bigot he got what he deserved & he will have to sell his team why because this is a business and the other owners don't want any part of him in their league at all it's bad for business >>>>>
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Small odds, but it would be awesome if the Supersonics group was able to buy this and relocate to Seattle

    The odds are small, but the odds for the NBA to go nuclear on Sterling were small

    Good chance for Silver to make good on Sterns greatest sin. Unfortunately I think the NBA uses Seattle as a hostage to help owners shake down taxpayers when teams want to build new stadiums with taxpayer funds.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    3 scenarios of where the clippers might land:

    1 seattle has an owner and (i think) an arena waiting to be built
    2 the nba has long wanted the clippers to move to anaheim
    3 magic/guggenheim, fresh off their purchase of the dodgers, out bids everyone and keeps them in la
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