Supreme Court Backs Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    Affirmative action in universities is bullshit IMO. Should be based on GPA.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    edited April 2014

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    So the ban has been in place since 2006 ... have there been any real fallout since then in admissions?

    yes.
    Are there any statistics that back that up?
    i have seen articles about how minority enrollment in the michigan state schools dropped significantly since 2006. i will try to find them when i have time to look for them. i am sure recent articles talking about this story have some stats in them.
    But enrollments overall have been declining since then - at least they have been in Canada. They've been reducing minimum entrance GPA requirements for years now because they can't fill seats otherwise unless you're talking about prestigious schools. It's because more and more people are recognizing that trade or professional school is way more useful, and also that a university degree isn't nearly as valuable as it used to be given the time and money it takes to get one. Especially in the arts. Did the articles you read compare the decline between minorities and non-minorities?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    So the ban has been in place since 2006 ... have there been any real fallout since then in admissions?

    yes.
    Are there any statistics that back that up?
    i have seen articles about how minority enrollment in the michigan state schools dropped significantly since 2006. i will try to find them when i have time to look for them. i am sure recent articles talking about this story have some stats in them.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-24/black-enrollment-falls-as-michigan-rejects-affirmative-action.html
    Any chance that skyrocketing tuition fees may have a much bigger impact?
    but if there was no affirmative action, would it not make it more difficult for some minorities to get the tuition assistance to help cover said skyrocketing tuition?
    I don't know. Does AA help secure grants or just enrollement?
    There are still tons of grants and scholarships that only go to minority groups. And student loans are based on family income.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,818

    the wall street journal ran this story.......not to say I trust this news source but it is what it is.
    I don't do twiter or any other social media other than facebook and I don't put much info on that.


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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    aa is reverse discrimination
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777

    aa is reverse discrimination

    I agree.
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