Day or two. Claims are this first strike wasnt ISIS targets but other opposition. Why else would Russia request all other coalition aircraft vacate Syrian airspace? So they can hit true rebels first.
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All Russia needs to do now is set up anti-aircraft SAM's and start flying sorties and they control the airspace. Any NATO flight will risk starting WWIII if they enter Syria. No way Obama risks challenging that. Brilliant gamesmanship by Putin that only works because of his "no fucks" attitude towards the West, especially how we reacted on his invasion of the Ukraine.
Amazing. 8 years ago I marveled at the fact that the Cold War was over.
All Russia needs to do now is set up anti-aircraft SAM's and start flying sorties and they control the airspace. Any NATO flight will risk starting WWIII if they enter Syria. No way Obama risks challenging that. Brilliant gamesmanship by Putin that only works because of his "no fucks" attitude towards the West, especially how we reacted on his invasion of the Ukraine.
Amazing. 8 years ago I marveled at the fact that the Cold War was over.
So if you were president how would you have handled Syria and Ukraine?
All Russia needs to do now is set up anti-aircraft SAM's and start flying sorties and they control the airspace. Any NATO flight will risk starting WWIII if they enter Syria. No way Obama risks challenging that. Brilliant gamesmanship by Putin that only works because of his "no fucks" attitude towards the West, especially how we reacted on his invasion of the Ukraine.
Amazing. 8 years ago I marveled at the fact that the Cold War was over.
So if you were president how would you have handled Syria and Ukraine?
I wouldn't draw red lines that I had no intention to back up. I would look at the stability of a region before making a campaign promise so people would like me.
As it is now, all I can do is step back and just watch it all burn.
Agree that was a stupid ploy strategy and failed. But prior to Obama saying this, what do you think the us should of done.
I don't know if he wasn't listening to his advisers or if his advisers are really bad at their jobs, but one big disadvantage that Obama has when compared to Putin, is that he takes a lot of time to gauge public perception and then haphazardly reacts. Putin just acts and he is calculated well ahead of time.
Since the Ukraine isn't in NATO, I admit there isn't much he could do. To let another nation kick you out of a region where you were waging an active military campaign doesn't look very good.
There just weren't any good solutions and think keeping our activity low was best choice. Confronting Putin militarily or putting our troops on ground in Syria a mistake.
Keeping my fingers crossed that Barry doesn't draw any red lines.
Become a mercenary and go over and fight ISIS. You can foot the bill And sacrifice your life to fight the evil Muslims.
I don't want to fight anybody. But thanks.
Okay so the red line comment about Obama? Can you elaborate?
Yeah, I was just kinda giving the prez some shit. Remember when he said that using chemical weapons by the Syrian regime would be a "red line", then he acted like he was going to do something until Putin sent his warships in. I'm glad he backed off, just think red lines are a stupid thing for the commander in chief to do unless your gonna back it up.
There just weren't any good solutions and think keeping our activity low was best choice. Confronting Putin militarily or putting our troops on ground in Syria a mistake.
So yeah we look weak but cool by me.
We will have to see how this plays out. I foresee full-scale ground troop escalation by the Russians. The refugee crisis is about to get 10x worse.
....or the people 'we' sell them to....ie Saudi Arabia in Yemen. Report came out two days ago. good timing for this; russia will steal all the best cluster bomb google results.
...and cluster bombs are illegal as well. The US and their allies have used them in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Gaza, etc etc....lets not focus too much on russia here...send all these fuckers to the hague.
The situation is so fucked in Syria. It's a complete joke watching all these countries claim to be fighting ISIS when the only true fights are over Assad retaining power or being ousted, and if he is ousted - which power control the puppet government in which carved up Syrian territory. I've been saying for years that the end goal of the west is balkanization of Syria, with the oilfields and pipeline routes in the north controlled by a Kurd puppet (Ergodan be damned), and the jihadis getting a (resource poor) state to run, from which they can work (with their western/sunni backers) to spread their influence into the former Soviet muslim states south of Russia, and into Shia Iran. It's amazing to me that the media narrative of R2P has any legs left at all, given how convoluted it's become to try to convince us which groups we're supporting. It's always been convoluted, but with Russia's entry and claims to fight terrorists, how can anyone believe that any of the involved parties are stating their true intentions thru the media? The troops massing on the Turkish and Saudi borders are Plan B for western powers since Russia has thrown a wrench into the simple 'foreign fighters force regime change' plan. If Turkey or the Saudis send in ground troops, or try to enforce a no-fly in Syria, we could find ourselves on the brink of some really serious shit. Would the US back a NATO partner to the point of direct confrontation with Russia?
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So they can hit true rebels first.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=hiA0JUdWR6M
I don't want to fight anybody. But thanks.
Amazing. 8 years ago I marveled at the fact that the Cold War was over.
As it is now, all I can do is step back and just watch it all burn.
Since the Ukraine isn't in NATO, I admit there isn't much he could do. To let another nation kick you out of a region where you were waging an active military campaign doesn't look very good.
There just weren't any good solutions and think keeping our activity low was best choice. Confronting Putin militarily or putting our troops on ground in Syria a mistake.
So yeah we look weak but cool by me.
I'm interested to see if Putin decides to up the ante and cross into Iraq.
Cold war getting hotter
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-13/russia-sees-new-cold-war-as-nato-chief-criticizes-nuclear-threat
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/02/12/predators-on-the-frontier/
Scary shit
foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-video-shows-cluster-bombs-detonating-in-the-dense-1759289467
only WE can do that!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The situation is so fucked in Syria. It's a complete joke watching all these countries claim to be fighting ISIS when the only true fights are over Assad retaining power or being ousted, and if he is ousted - which power control the puppet government in which carved up Syrian territory. I've been saying for years that the end goal of the west is balkanization of Syria, with the oilfields and pipeline routes in the north controlled by a Kurd puppet (Ergodan be damned), and the jihadis getting a (resource poor) state to run, from which they can work (with their western/sunni backers) to spread their influence into the former Soviet muslim states south of Russia, and into Shia Iran. It's amazing to me that the media narrative of R2P has any legs left at all, given how convoluted it's become to try to convince us which groups we're supporting. It's always been convoluted, but with Russia's entry and claims to fight terrorists, how can anyone believe that any of the involved parties are stating their true intentions thru the media?
The troops massing on the Turkish and Saudi borders are Plan B for western powers since Russia has thrown a wrench into the simple 'foreign fighters force regime change' plan. If Turkey or the Saudis send in ground troops, or try to enforce a no-fly in Syria, we could find ourselves on the brink of some really serious shit. Would the US back a NATO partner to the point of direct confrontation with Russia?