Michele Bachman Claims Gay People Have "Bullied" The American People

josevolution

mattsl1983 said:

I'm not taking away from any equality or anyone's rights. The example I used, St Patricks day, has nothing to do with sexuality. It's not a heterosexual event, it's not a homosexual event. For it to have become an issue concerning gay rights by an activist group, I think was completely wrong and off base. Not everything has to do with gay rights, and sometimes they try to make things about gay rights. That's the point I was making, and possibly what Bachman might have intended.

But why was the Gay float denied by them denying them the float they themselves made it an issue , my ? is what's the big deal about the gay community having a float ...

PJ_Soul

mattsl1983 said:

I'm not taking away from any equality or anyone's rights. The example I used, St Patricks day, has nothing to do with sexuality. It's not a heterosexual event, it's not a homosexual event. For it to have become an issue concerning gay rights by an activist group, I think was completely wrong and off base. Not everything has to do with gay rights, and sometimes they try to make things about gay rights. That's the point I was making, and possibly what Bachman might have intended.

Well no, because this St. Paddy's day thing came up many days after Bachman made her ridiculous statement. And i can't think of another instance where your scenario fits either.

As for the St. Paddy's Day = bullying thing.... How would that be bullying?? Having an opinion that some disagree with is not bullying in any way, shape, or form, and i'd say just the fact that some seem to think she might have a point because some gay people had dissenting opinions is somewhat terrifying.

gimmesometruth27

if their float was not allowed in the parade, how is that not discrimination on basis of sexual orientation?

PJ_Soul

gimmesometruth27 said:

if their float was not allowed in the parade, how is that not discrimination on basis of sexual orientation?

Yeah, that's discrimination and they had every reason to voice their opposition - tough shit if the Irish don't like it. It's not bullying.

mattsl1983

Well I can see this is pointless... Yes, everything has to do with gay rights. St Patricks day should be about sexual orientation and there should have been a gay float allowed in the parade. We should also include gay floats in every other parade, regardless what the parade is for. I look forward to seeing the gay Native American float personally.

To me it's pretty common sense that not everything is an issue. But in today's society everything has to be an issue. Also I did not use the word bully or defend her comments, I just simply thought about what she possibly could have meant by her comments and added that to the discussion.

EarlWelsh

Leprecock. That's all I've got.

gimmesometruth27

Bachmann said. "I think the thing that is getting a little tiresome, the gay community, they have so bullied the American people, and they've so intimidated politicians. The politicians fear them, so that they think they get to dictate the agenda everywhere."

oh michelle, you are such a victim.

Cosmo

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bachmann said. "I think the thing that is getting a little tiresome, the gay community, they have so bullied the American people, and they've so intimidated politicians. The politicians fear them, so that they think they get to dictate the agenda everywhere."

oh michelle, you are such a victim.

...
Yeah... i remember in High School how those gay kids used to bully those Jocks.

PJ_Soul

mattsl1983 said:

Well I can see this is pointless... Yes, everything has to do with gay rights. St Patricks day should be about sexual orientation and there should have been a gay float allowed in the parade. We should also include gay floats in every other parade, regardless what the parade is for. I look forward to seeing the gay Native American float personally.

To me it's pretty common sense that not everything is an issue. But in today's society everything has to be an issue. Also I did not use the word bully or defend her comments, I just simply thought about what she possibly could have meant by her comments and added that to the discussion.

Having a gay rights float in a parade doesn't make the parade about gay rights any more than having any other float in anparade makes the parade about whatever said float is about, many of which have a social or political or ethnic theme. Why single out the gays' float???

ed243421

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department of defense
big oil
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etc.

and she's bullied by a float in a parade?

Bentleyspop

If there is anyone who knows a lot about gay bullying it is Michelle Bachman.

Afterall she represents a district with an unusually high rate of teen gay suicides.

SD48277

gimmesometruth27 said:

gay bully

Nobody rocked the tight white jeans quite like Freddie.

gimmesometruth27

Bentleyspop said:

If there is anyone who knows a lot about gay bullying it is Michelle Bachman.

Afterall she represents a district with an unusually high rate of teen gay suicides.

didnt her husband do something with gay conversion therapy?? to my mind, trying to convert someone is absolutely the worst form of bullying.

mattsl1983

PJ Soul, I would ask why they feel the need that they have to have a float in this type of parade. Aren't there all ready many gay rights parades out there specifically for the gay community? Are actions like this no different from seeing Al Sharpton on tv turning everything into a racial issue? To me there is a time and a place for everything. I would say that the GLBT used the victim card in this situation.

EarlWelsh

mattsl1983 said:

PJ Soul, I would ask why they feel the need that they have to have a float in this type of parade. Aren't there all ready many gay rights parades out there specifically for the gay community? Are actions like this no different from seeing Al Sharpton on tv turning everything into a racial issue? To me there is a time and a place for everything. I would say that the GLBT used the victim card in this situation.

Why not have a float? Ironworkers, police, firemen and women, boyscouts/girlscouts, polish falcons, etc...all have floats and all promote a lifestyle or a certain part of our greater culture. So why can't the LGBT have a float? Must they keep to their own parades like African Americans keeping to their own buses/fountains? If you ask me, Bachmann is the one pulling a card to promote her agenda and she can fuck right off. All bigots, fuck off.

gimmesometruth27

mattsl1983 said:

PJ Soul, I would ask why they feel the need that they have to have a float in this type of parade. Aren't there all ready many gay rights parades out there specifically for the gay community? Are actions like this no different from seeing Al Sharpton on tv turning everything into a racial issue? To me there is a time and a place for everything. I would say that the GLBT used the victim card in this situation.

you can at least get the terminology correct. it is LGBT.

do you really think that "al sharpton would be on tv turning everything into a racial issue" if there were not grounds for him to do so?

people like bachmann want us to believe that we are in a post racial world and we are not. people are still saying obama is from kenya, that he is muslim, and that black people are the ones living off welfare, when it is proven that there are more white people on welfare today.

how about if we said nobody with the name matts can post on these forums simply because their name is matts. would that be discrimination? that is the same thing these organizers are saying be not allowing the LGBT community to participate in the parade. would you speak out for your right to post here? i would speak out for your right to post here because you are a member of this community, the same that the LGBT community are members of the community where the parade is held.

mattsl1983

Buses, fountains, no Matts, girls scouts have one. Man you guys take it to the extreme huh? Please inform me how St Patricks day is about sexuality? And if you can make a real argument on how St Patricks day is about sexuality, and then the gay float wasn't allowed, then yes that would be discrimination. As it is right now, I don't see it as discrimination, because St Patricks day has nothing to do with sexuality. My opinion anyways. And if we turn it into something about sexuality, we can turn everything into an issue of sexuality. Is this the direction you would like to see society move towards? It's worked out so well with that mentality about race and affirmative action.

EarlWelsh

It's not a "day of sexuality", you're right about that. It's an Irish holiday celebrated by people from all walks of life. So if a float full of people want to say "hey, look at us! It's okay to be gay and celebrate being Irish or the people we love being Irish" then there's really nothing wrong with that.

mattsl1983

Unless the organizers wanted to keep the event as sexually neutral and not be used as a vehicle for interest groups agendas. If that is/was the case then I think they have the right to say no to float the celebrates any type of sexual lifestyle, gay or straight.

PJ_Soul

EarlWelsh said:

mattsl1983 said:

PJ Soul, I would ask why they feel the need that they have to have a float in this type of parade. Aren't there all ready many gay rights parades out there specifically for the gay community? Are actions like this no different from seeing Al Sharpton on tv turning everything into a racial issue? To me there is a time and a place for everything. I would say that the GLBT used the victim card in this situation.

Why not have a float? Ironworkers, police, firemen and women, boyscouts/girlscouts, polish falcons, etc...all have floats and all promote a lifestyle or a certain part of our greater culture. So why can't the LGBT have a float? Must they keep to their own parades like African Americans keeping to their own buses/fountains? If you ask me, Bachmann is the one pulling a card to promote her agenda and she can fuck right off. All bigots, fuck off.

Yup, exactly what I would have said. Again Matt, why single out the gay float?? What you're talking about is discrimination.