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lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
edited November 2013 in A Moving Train
Heinz closes Leamington plant, 740 people out of work

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/h ... -1.2426608

Worthington Cylinders lays off more than 100 in Tilbury

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/w ... -1.2424903

My neck of the world just got rocked this week with over a 1000 job losses ... Worthington Cylinder is a plant my wife used to work at, hard working folks they are ... with so many job losses it will be tough for the economy to absorb them, and those who find jobs it will be much lower paying wages. I think it is truly a race to the bottom. No doubt in my mind that the standard of living is being lowered and the middle class will soon disappear.
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,999
    lukin2006 wrote:
    ... The middle class will soon disappear.

    That's what they've been trying to do all over the world, since the 2008 financial crisis broke out: Elimination of the middle class and expansion of the gap between the rich and the poor. Cruel bastards! :evil:
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    Loss of jobs and it's impact on local economy is devastating. Very sorry to hear about this, lukin2006.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    It's the job creators that are doing this.
    it's not a knock... because, in truth, they ARE creating jobs... in China... in India... in Viet Nam.
    ...
    Those job creators should get credit, where credit is due.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    all cuz they hired the former ceo of burger king ...
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    polaris_x wrote:
    all cuz they hired the former ceo of burger king ...
    ...
    Someone needs to pay for that gigantic salary.
    It might as well be the workers, right?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cosmo wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    all cuz they hired the former ceo of burger king ...
    ...
    Someone needs to pay for that gigantic salary.
    It might as well be the workers, right?

    exactly ... or more importantly - their bonuses ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Is it the hiring of the CEO from BK the real reason? From what I understand ketchup from the Heinz in Leamingtom was not used by Mc Donald's or is this a trickle down effect? Mc Donald's uses a shit load of ketchup though, I guess you got to mask the taste of the food somehow ... However I can't stand the taste of ketchup myself.

    Personally I think the high Canadian dollar, these horrible trade agreements, and it is definitely more costly to do business in Canada than China.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • backseatLover12backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Cosmo wrote:
    It's the job creators that are doing this.
    it's not a knock... because, in truth, they ARE creating jobs... in China... in India... in Viet Nam.
    ...
    Those job creators should get credit, where credit is due.

    Get credit for cheaper laber? WTF?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Heinz closes Leamington plant, 740 people out of work

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/h ... -1.2426608

    Worthington Cylinders lays off more than 100 in Tilbury

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/w ... -1.2424903

    My neck of the world just got rocked this week with over a 1000 job losses ... Worthington Cylinder is a plant my wife used to work at, hard working folks they are ... with so many job losses it will be tough for the economy to absorb them, and those who find jobs it will be much lower paying wages. I think it is truly a race to the bottom. No doubt in my mind that the standard of living is being lowered and the middle class will soon disappear.

    pratt & whittney in Con. more are slated for there due to out-sourcing


    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    It's the job creators that are doing this.
    it's not a knock... because, in truth, they ARE creating jobs... in China... in India... in Viet Nam.
    ...
    Those job creators should get credit, where credit is due.


    :lol: sooooo true...and they will inthe form of BONE-US..es :lol:


    Godfather.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Heinz closes Leamington plant, 740 people out of work

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/h ... -1.2426608

    Worthington Cylinders lays off more than 100 in Tilbury

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/w ... -1.2424903

    My neck of the world just got rocked this week with over a 1000 job losses ... Worthington Cylinder is a plant my wife used to work at, hard working folks they are ... with so many job losses it will be tough for the economy to absorb them, and those who find jobs it will be much lower paying wages. I think it is truly a race to the bottom. No doubt in my mind that the standard of living is being lowered and the middle class will soon disappear.
    ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no.
    Sonya Higginbotham, who speaks for the company, said Worthington is getting out of the cylinder business because it's not profitable.


    http://www.worthingtoncylinders.com/Home.aspx

    Global leader is getting out of the business because it isnt profitable?
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    backseatLover12 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    It's the job creators that are doing this.
    it's not a knock... because, in truth, they ARE creating jobs... in China... in India... in Viet Nam.
    ...
    Those job creators should get credit, where credit is due.

    Get credit for cheaper laber? WTF?
    ...
    Actually, they should take the credit for shipping the jobs overseas... bring down their operating costs... which equates to higher profits... that are reflected in higher stock value.
    It all depends of where you sit... up in the 1%... it's fucking great because the value of your portfolio goes up... for the rest of us 99%ers... it means unemployment lines and minimum wage career opportunities at the local Burger King.
    The 'Job Creators' that so many in the 99% love so dearly... are really cornholing us and getting paid to do so.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Cosmo wrote:
    backseatLover12 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    It's the job creators that are doing this.
    it's not a knock... because, in truth, they ARE creating jobs... in China... in India... in Viet Nam.
    ...
    Those job creators should get credit, where credit is due.

    Get credit for cheaper laber? WTF?
    ...
    Actually, they should take the credit for shipping the jobs overseas... bring down their operating costs... which equates to higher profits... that are reflected in higher stock value.
    It all depends of where you sit... up in the 1%... it's fucking great because the value of your portfolio goes up... for the rest of us 99%ers... it means unemployment lines and minimum wage career opportunities at the local Burger King.
    The 'Job Creators' that so many in the 99% love so dearly... are really cornholing us and getting paid to do so.

    Well said ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    mickeyrat wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Heinz closes Leamington plant, 740 people out of work

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/h ... -1.2426608

    Worthington Cylinders lays off more than 100 in Tilbury

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/w ... -1.2424903

    My neck of the world just got rocked this week with over a 1000 job losses ... Worthington Cylinder is a plant my wife used to work at, hard working folks they are ... with so many job losses it will be tough for the economy to absorb them, and those who find jobs it will be much lower paying wages. I think it is truly a race to the bottom. No doubt in my mind that the standard of living is being lowered and the middle class will soon disappear.
    ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no.
    Sonya Higginbotham, who speaks for the company, said Worthington is getting out of the cylinder business because it's not profitable.


    http://www.worthingtoncylinders.com/Home.aspx

    Global leader is getting out of the business because it isnt profitable?

    I have read that. I have also read it's not profitable because the Chinese are shipping over lower priced cylinders. Wage wise we can't and never will be able to compete with countries like that. It's time for tariffs on goods coming from these countries with the money to go into training and education of displaced employees ... People want these goods it's time to pay a price.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • backseatLover12backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Cosmo wrote:
    backseatLover12 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    It's the job creators that are doing this.
    it's not a knock... because, in truth, they ARE creating jobs... in China... in India... in Viet Nam.
    ...
    Those job creators should get credit, where credit is due.

    Get credit for cheaper laber? WTF?
    ...
    Actually, they should take the credit for shipping the jobs overseas... bring down their operating costs... which equates to higher profits... that are reflected in higher stock value.
    It all depends of where you sit... up in the 1%... it's fucking great because the value of your portfolio goes up... for the rest of us 99%ers... it means unemployment lines and minimum wage career opportunities at the local Burger King.
    The 'Job Creators' that so many in the 99% love so dearly... are really cornholing us and getting paid to do so.

    I know you're being sarcastic, but there are tax breaks for outsourcing jobs. Any greedy dumbfuck CEO can stop American production to rake in the big profits of cheap labor and bigger tax cuts. Taking credit for being a corphole is hardly admirable. The 1% is gonna bring this country to its knees, but they'll all be living big in the South Seas by then.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    lukin2006 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Heinz closes Leamington plant, 740 people out of work

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/h ... -1.2426608

    Worthington Cylinders lays off more than 100 in Tilbury

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/w ... -1.2424903

    My neck of the world just got rocked this week with over a 1000 job losses ... Worthington Cylinder is a plant my wife used to work at, hard working folks they are ... with so many job losses it will be tough for the economy to absorb them, and those who find jobs it will be much lower paying wages. I think it is truly a race to the bottom. No doubt in my mind that the standard of living is being lowered and the middle class will soon disappear.
    ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no.
    Sonya Higginbotham, who speaks for the company, said Worthington is getting out of the cylinder business because it's not profitable.


    http://www.worthingtoncylinders.com/Home.aspx

    Global leader is getting out of the business because it isnt profitable?

    I have read that. I have also read it's not profitable because the Chinese are shipping over lower priced cylinders. Wage wise we can't and never will be able to compete with countries like that. It's time for tariffs on goods coming from these countries with the money to go into training and education of displaced employees ... People want these goods it's time to pay a price.
    worthington industries has purchased a 10% stake in a chinese company.They are partners in India too. They've bought several companies over the years.

    The corporate office is about 4 miles away from my house.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    backseatLover12 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    backseatLover12 wrote:
    Get credit for cheaper laber? WTF?
    ...
    Actually, they should take the credit for shipping the jobs overseas... bring down their operating costs... which equates to higher profits... that are reflected in higher stock value.
    It all depends of where you sit... up in the 1%... it's fucking great because the value of your portfolio goes up... for the rest of us 99%ers... it means unemployment lines and minimum wage career opportunities at the local Burger King.
    The 'Job Creators' that so many in the 99% love so dearly... are really cornholing us and getting paid to do so.

    I know you're being sarcastic, but there are tax breaks for outsourcing jobs. Any greedy dumbfuck CEO can stop American production to rake in the big profits of cheap labor and bigger tax cuts. Taking credit for being a corphole is hardly admirable. The 1% is gonna bring this country to its knees, but they'll all be living big in the South Seas by then.
    ..
    Yeah... i'm being my usual smart-ass self.
    I'm taking a backhanded shot at the moronic portion of the 99% that say they support the actions of the 1%... whilst having their bungholes cornholed by assholes.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Is it the hiring of the CEO from BK the real reason? From what I understand ketchup from the Heinz in Leamingtom was not used by Mc Donald's or is this a trickle down effect? Mc Donald's uses a shit load of ketchup though, I guess you got to mask the taste of the food somehow ... However I can't stand the taste of ketchup myself.

    Personally I think the high Canadian dollar, these horrible trade agreements, and it is definitely more costly to do business in Canada than China.

    well ... mcds recently dropped heinz after they hired BK's former exec ... so - it seems like a reasonable consequence ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Is it the hiring of the CEO from BK the real reason? From what I understand ketchup from the Heinz in Leamingtom was not used by Mc Donald's or is this a trickle down effect? Mc Donald's uses a shit load of ketchup though, I guess you got to mask the taste of the food somehow ... However I can't stand the taste of ketchup myself.

    Personally I think the high Canadian dollar, these horrible trade agreements, and it is definitely more costly to do business in Canada than China.

    well ... mcds recently dropped heinz after they hired BK's former exec ... so - it seems like a reasonable consequence ...

    true ... and mcdonalds uses a shit load of ketchup ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Cosmo wrote:
    It's the job creators that are doing this.
    it's not a knock... because, in truth, they ARE creating jobs... in China... in India... in Viet Nam.
    ...
    Those job creators should get credit, where credit is due.

    Truth here. Why should jobs lost in America be more important than jobs created in China. Are Americans more deserving? I'd say a good argument could be made that people in these other countries need the jobs worse. After all, we have free healthcare for all now.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    they are working at saving the plant ... one of the ideas is to form a co-operative with tomato growers ... the time has come to rethink our economic model and recognize that our reliance on corporations to be the cornerstones of our economy will only lead us down a path of exploitation and hardship ...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    polaris_x wrote:
    they are working at saving the plant ... one of the ideas is to form a co-operative with tomato growers ... the time has come to rethink our economic model and recognize that our reliance on corporations to be the cornerstones of our economy will only lead us down a path of exploitation and hardship ...
    maybe it could become an independent employee owned deal? Hopeful they can figure something out. But you are spot on about reliance on corporate. Mistake to do so.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Heinz plans $28M expansion in Ohio

    http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/n ... -ohio.html

    One communities loss, another communities gain.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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