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2013 NORTH AMERICA BOOTLEGS

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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    are FLAC's truly worth it? I've honestly never been able to detect much difference between a good quality MP3 (192 kps or better) and a FLAC.
    Could someone please enlighten me?
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    klusterfukklusterfuk Posts: 1,411
    Hell yeah!
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    vaggar99 wrote:
    are FLAC's truly worth it? I've honestly never been able to detect much difference between a good quality MP3 (192 kps or better) and a FLAC.
    Could someone please enlighten me?

    I've found that not only is it difficult for some people to detect a difference, but it also may require some practice. I can easily detect when an MP3 is below 256 without even trying, but I only use mid-to-high end headphones. Detecting a difference on a standard pair of buds is going to be difficult. FLAC is music without the compression restraints of the MP3 form, and to some it is absolutely worth it. If you don't have the gear for it, however, and you generally have difficulty detecting any difference, it might not be worth it for you.
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    When will the two Philly shows be released?
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    When will the two Philly shows be released?

    Weeks 7 and 8 so mid January
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    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    CharliePCharlieP Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,035
    YYEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    When will the two Philly shows be released?

    Weeks 7 and 8 so mid January
    So, will not be my Christmas present to myself then :/
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    DollarDollar Posts: 237
    When will the two Philly shows be released?

    Not happy about the release format. There goes Christmas presents to myself & others!
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    on2legs wrote:
    I imagine the one a week release is part of the radio deal with satellite radio.

    I think that's what they did for South America and maybe even in 2012...one per week, but on Wednesdays last time.

    The pessimist in me is thinking that by not releasing them all until January (and then hopefully the Big Day Out stuff), maybe they're keeping us distracted...longer wait until another tour announcement? Maybe some sort of European announcement in March after the Big Day Out stuff is released?

    We shall see.
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    jumbojet wrote:
    CDFish wrote:
    So I want to make sure I have this right...
    Every Friday they play a different PJ LB Tour show on XM and not until the following Wednesday is the boot available for purchase? They aren't releasing them all at once, it's one per week yes?
    I know this is a first world problem but this means several boots might not be available before the holidays to give as gifts....bummer.
    Happy we are getting them, hopefully they release every show and don't pick and choose.

    If one per week, we're looking to at least 3 months to complete only the 1st leg.

    They did this last year with the Euro tour.

    I don't mind this, I'll just pick up a few boots every couple of weeks.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    I was planning on listening to one every few weeks anyway... so I guess this staggered release really isn't bad for me
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    GP179117GP179117 Posts: 362
    Don't worry, once you guys have purchased them all individually, they will offer up a shoe box with all of them at a reduced price.
    Tempers are wearing thin. Let's hope some robot doesn't kill everybody.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    GP179117 wrote:
    Don't worry, once you guys have purchased them all individually, they will offer up a shoe box with all of them at a reduced price.

    Or 2 songs at a time on 45s for the true audiophiles.
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    GP179117 wrote:
    Don't worry, once you guys have purchased them all individually, they will offer up a shoe box with all of them at a reduced price.

    That is what I thought would happen for 2011 and 2012 boots, but still waiting
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
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    BK5403BK5403 Posts: 50
    vaggar99 wrote:
    are FLAC's truly worth it? I've honestly never been able to detect much difference between a good quality MP3 (192 kps or better) and a FLAC.
    Could someone please enlighten me?

    Depends what you're listening with. With your laptop's speakers or on your iphone w/stock headphones it would be tough to tell the difference. With a decent pair of headphones or a mid-level hi-fi setup you'll start hearing the difference. A visual analogy would be looking at a low resolution jpeg photo on your computer. When you try to zoom in, it gets all pixelated because information is missing. that's the same as an mp3. with a higher resolution photo, you can blow it up as large as your screen and it maintains all of the details and texture and contrast. that's what you get with a high res music file that's 24 bits / 96 k.

    Buying the high res flac files will future proof anyone who might put a few bucks into a good stereo down the road. And you can always buy high res now & convert the files "down" to mp3 or apple lossless using XLD for free.
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    reyrey Monmouth County, NJ Posts: 270
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    When will the two Philly shows be released?

    Weeks 7 and 8 so mid January


    Did the message specify what order the shows would be premiered/released?
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    rey wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    When will the two Philly shows be released?

    Weeks 7 and 8 so mid January


    Did the message specify what order the shows would be premiered/released?

    I'm assuming order that the shows occurred, so Pitt released first. I have no insider info- its just how they've done it in the past.
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    I wonder if they'll be available via iTunes as well. They have a lot of their boots out there now.
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    Based on the information provided, we are looking at Wednesday, January 22nd, for the Baltimore show to be released... aaarrrrrggggghhhhhhh! Guess it's better late than never... :-)
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    ((((THANK YOU - PJ and TC))))
    this is the news I was waiting and hoping for. Now I know I'll keep on going... till they tour Europe ;)
    F' fantastic so I scream out my hipp hipp Hurrey! :P

    and if it takes a bit longer for the release, I say: all good things take their time !
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    JV130312JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,413
    If they would now just release the 2011 & 2012 in a box set, I'd be overly happy!!!
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    Any word on how Pitt sounded on Sirius???
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Hopefully this will finally end all the threads asking when the bootlegs will be available ;)

    ...it wont
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    Hopefully this will finally end all the threads asking when the bootlegs will be available ;)

    ...it wont

    Search function does not get used often around here :lol:
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,907
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Any word on how Pitt sounded on Sirius???

    It was fabulous!!! Thought I sent you a pm to download the recording.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,661
    BK5403 wrote:
    vaggar99 wrote:
    are FLAC's truly worth it? I've honestly never been able to detect much difference between a good quality MP3 (192 kps or better) and a FLAC.
    Could someone please enlighten me?

    Depends what you're listening with. With your laptop's speakers or on your iphone w/stock headphones it would be tough to tell the difference. With a decent pair of headphones or a mid-level hi-fi setup you'll start hearing the difference. A visual analogy would be looking at a low resolution jpeg photo on your computer. When you try to zoom in, it gets all pixelated because information is missing. that's the same as an mp3. with a higher resolution photo, you can blow it up as large as your screen and it maintains all of the details and texture and contrast. that's what you get with a high res music file that's 24 bits / 96 k.

    Buying the high res flac files will future proof anyone who might put a few bucks into a good stereo down the road. And you can always buy high res now & convert the files "down" to mp3 or apple lossless using XLD for free.


    Right... to me, FLAC's are well worth it. When I really want to jam out, I go off and listen a Pioneer Elite/ Def Tech setup and the difference between an Mp3 and FLAC are night and day. Maybe the smartest move (if you are patient) is buy the cds and then rip them yourself with a high quality WAV/FLAC producer. I am using Squeezebox to play across my house, but I don't know if that supports the high res FLAC. I know Sonos doesn't, so have to be aware of that if going high end.
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    wingendwingend Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 54
    So does anyone know when the Pittsburgh bootleg becomes available tomorrow? Are we thinking noon Pacific time?
    Pittsburgh - 09/05
    Cleveland - 05/10
    Pittsburgh - 10/13
    Brooklyn - 10/13
    MSG- 5/16
    Wrigley - 8/18
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    wingend wrote:
    So does anyone know when the Pittsburgh bootleg becomes available tomorrow? Are we thinking noon Pacific time?

    In the past, it has been either 12 or 1 eastern
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
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    wingendwingend Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 54
    Cool, thank you!
    Pittsburgh - 09/05
    Cleveland - 05/10
    Pittsburgh - 10/13
    Brooklyn - 10/13
    MSG- 5/16
    Wrigley - 8/18
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    demetrios wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Any word on how Pitt sounded on Sirius???

    It was fabulous!!! Thought I sent you a pm to download the recording.

    :? I missed that
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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