Expectations for leg 2

vedderfan02

Are we gonna get 26 song sets or still possibly get a 32 song set?

MK13579

How about a 40 song set list...in Seattle

DriftingByTheStorm

i think you will get a few in the 30s and a few in the high 20s. They will play whatever they can get away with, curfew wise.

I also expect the "song pool" to have some new inclusions, and possibly deletions.
Seems like they are working tighter this tour. Eddie not relying on his lyric book much at all, and the band being insanely close knit now. Probably see stuff continue to crop up in sets that hasn't made it there so far, and possibly stuff that has been played hard get snuffed a bit. mb they come up with a new cover or new guest appearance or ?

other than that,
i expect Leg 2 to be overall as good, if not better than leg 1.


[i just wish i could goooo.... :( :( :( ]

Cob

My expectation is that no matter how good a show is on Leg 2, people who went to Leg 1 and are not going to any of Leg 2 will say how much better the shows they saw were and they will say the shows they didn't even go to are "over rated".

vedderfan02

I am pretty excited to be going to OKC. Trying to talk the wife into Dallas too. Not going well so far. Haha

I know we will get some nice surprises just like leg 1 got

Hoping for an as long show as some of leg 1 even with the openers.

CharlieP

Think people are once again in for a huge treat no matter what! Damn, I really hope they will hit Europe next year

mfc2006

Cob wrote:

My expectation is that no matter how good a show is on Leg 2, people who went to Leg 1 and are not going to any of Leg 2 will say how much better the shows they saw were and they will say the shows they didn't even go to are "over rated".

so true! Ha!

Eraserhead

Playing the whole of No Code in order in Portland.

SVRDhand13

I expect EV will swing on a light during Porch

payling

If openers start at 7:30, then should be able to get the 30+ PJ setlist. . .

ckravitz

Cob wrote:

My expectation is that no matter how good a show is on Leg 2, people who went to Leg 1 and are not going to any of Leg 2 will say how much better the shows they saw were and they will say the shows they didn't even go to are "over rated".

Well, in that case....

My expectation is that no matter how good a show was on Leg 1, people who go to Leg 2 and didn't go to any of Leg 1 will say how much better the shows they saw were and they will say the shows they didn't even go to are "over rated".

PJ_Soul

I expect Mudhoney as the opener to make it a shorter setlist in Vancouver. There is an 11:00 curfew at Roger's Arena I think (although I don't think it's hard to go past it - lots of shows do). :evil: Still pretty sour about them getting an opener just for the northwest shows.

PJ_Soul

Cob wrote:

My expectation is that no matter how good a show is on Leg 2, people who went to Leg 1 and are not going to any of Leg 2 will say how much better the shows they saw were and they will say the shows they didn't even go to are "over rated".

Not me. I think the east coast shows will probably end up being the better shows overall if history means anything, and I didn't go to any of them. Only going to Vancouver.

Zod

MK13579 wrote:

How about a 40 song set list...in Seattle

That'd be nice.

I really hope they resolve the curfew issues (which made the '09 shows seem really short). It did seem the blacked out the venue for the next day, so they're shouldn't be any issues of playing late.

The '00 shows went crazy late (on of 'em didn't end until after 1:30am). The '02 and '09 shows ended at 11pm. Since there's an opening band in Seattle we need a late curfew to get anything close to what the East coasters got.

mfc2006

Eraserhead wrote:

Playing the whole of No Code in order in Portland.

That would be awesome!

iwasatpj20

I want unpredictable setlists and at least 33 to 35 songs each night. Play Immortality and Getaway at either Dallas or OKC show.

YLed2

MK13579 wrote:

How about a 40 song set list...in Seattle

Exactly what I was thinking for Seattle since the day they announced. No second show, last show of the tour, and after seeing some of these sets on the first leg - why the hell not?

I know I'm definitely ready to hit my shows in Dallas, OKC, and Seattle after having to go through the torture and watch the first leg shows from the sidelines.

CAVSTARR313

Mike to point at people during "Hard to Imagine"

hamma

If Mudhoney goes on at 7:30 and plays for a 1/2 hour -40 minutes PJ should be able to play sets similar length to the EC. They didn't go on until 8:20 - 8:30 most nights. West coast will probably be 8:30 -8:45


I'm hoping for a marathon set in Seattle to finish the tour

MK13579

Pearl Jam will open every show with Yellow Ledbetter and end every show with Pendulum.

smanchac1

PJ_Soul wrote:

I expect Mudhoney as the opener to make it a shorter setlist in Vancouver. There is an 11:00 curfew at Roger's Arena I think (although I don't think it's hard to go past it - lots of shows do). :evil: Still pretty sour about them getting an opener just for the northwest shows.

Mud honey is opening more than Vancouver, we now have openers for

Dallas
Oklahoma
Portland
Spokane
Calgary
Vancouver
Seattle

That's 7 of 12 shows having an opener.

That is my only concern as well. Doing Philly 1-2, and Hartford, that's how the shows should be. No openers, once the lights go down its on for 3 hours, all pearl jam.

I am worried that the shows with openers are going to have shorter shows.

In the past, openers usually take stage at 7:30, and play until 8:15. Then the crew sets up for pearl jam and they take the stage at 9. This has been the norm at shows for a long time.

I think it will be terrible for these shows to get a shorter show. Almost everyone I see can't stand mud honey, think they are too loud etc. We paid to see pearl jam, not mud honey.

I guess we will find out next weekend once the Dallas and OKC shows happen.

bootlegger10

hamma wrote:

If Mudhoney goes on at 7:30 and plays for a 1/2 hour -40 minutes PJ should be able to play sets similar length to the EC. They didn't go on until 8:20 - 8:30 most nights. West coast will probably be 8:30 -8:45


I'm hoping for a marathon set in Seattle to finish the tour

PJ normally goes on about 8:50 to 9:00 when there are openers. I think the sets will be in the 29-31 song range.

bootlegger10

Is PJ just being nice to Mudhoney? Do they think the fans actually want to see them? I wish they would just drop the openers going forward. I would rather have 20 extra minutes of PJ than an opener.

PJ_Soul

smanchac1 wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

I expect Mudhoney as the opener to make it a shorter setlist in Vancouver. There is an 11:00 curfew at Roger's Arena I think (although I don't think it's hard to go past it - lots of shows do). :evil: Still pretty sour about them getting an opener just for the northwest shows.

Mud honey is opening more than Vancouver, we now have openers for

Dallas
Oklahoma
Portland
Spokane
Calgary
Vancouver
Seattle

That's 7 of 12 shows having an opener.

That is my only concern as well. Doing Philly 1-2, and Hartford, that's how the shows should be. No openers, once the lights go down its on for 3 hours, all pearl jam.

I am worried that the shows with openers are going to have shorter shows.

In the past, openers usually take stage at 7:30, and play until 8:15. Then the crew sets up for pearl jam and they take the stage at 9. This has been the norm at shows for a long time.

I think it will be terrible for these shows to get a shorter show. Almost everyone I see can't stand mud honey, think they are too loud etc. We paid to see pearl jam, not mud honey.

I guess we will find out next weekend once the Dallas and OKC shows happen.

Didn't know about Dallas and OKC. Thought it was just the Northwest shows (not just Vancouver). Well, sucks for those two cities as well then, because yeah, Mudhoney sucks live, and 99% of the crowd has zero interest in seeing them before PJ. Puts a damper on the evening.

nothinasitseems

MK13579 wrote:

Pearl Jam will open every show with Yellow Ledbetter and end every show with Pendulum.

:shock:

PJ_Soul

bootlegger10 wrote:

Is PJ just being nice to Mudhoney? Do they think the fans actually want to see them? I wish they would just drop the openers going forward. I would rather have 20 extra minutes of PJ than an opener.

They're personal friends with them and yes, I think are just being nice and trying to get some money into their friends' pockets.... So basically, I see Mudhoney as a charity case, not that PJ would ever admit it.

YLed2

My guess is with more opening bands on the second leg, we won't see as many "slower" starts to shows with double openers. I think the set lists will change quite a bit from the first leg of the tour.

The set lists will continue to be very varied and diverse, maybe even more so than the first leg. Still tons of songs they can bust out for the second leg.

And oh yeah, Seattle will be that pinnacle 40-song, behemoth of a show to end the tour. Opening band or not, make it happen. BOOM.

RoleModelsinBlood31

PJ_Soul wrote:

smanchac1 wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

I expect Mudhoney as the opener to make it a shorter setlist in Vancouver. There is an 11:00 curfew at Roger's Arena I think (although I don't think it's hard to go past it - lots of shows do). :evil: Still pretty sour about them getting an opener just for the northwest shows.

Mud honey is opening more than Vancouver, we now have openers for

Dallas
Oklahoma
Portland
Spokane
Calgary
Vancouver
Seattle

That's 7 of 12 shows having an opener.




That is my only concern as well. Doing Philly 1-2, and Hartford, that's how the shows should be. No openers, once the lights go down its on for 3 hours, all pearl jam.

I am worried that the shows with openers are going to have shorter shows.

In the past, openers usually take stage at 7:30, and play until 8:15. Then the crew sets up for pearl jam and they take the stage at 9. This has been the norm at shows for a long time.

I think it will be terrible for these shows to get a shorter show. Almost everyone I see can't stand mud honey, think they are too loud etc. We paid to see pearl jam, not mud honey.

I guess we will find out next weekend once the Dallas and OKC shows happen.

Didn't know about Dallas and OKC. Thought it was just the Northwest shows (not just Vancouver). Well, sucks for those two cities as well then, because yeah, Mudhoney sucks live, and 99% of the crowd has zero interest in seeing them before PJ. Puts a damper on the evening.

I don't want to see sucky Mudhoney in Dallas and OKC. I guess I'll be drinking extra beers until I head into the show around 8:35ish then. Anyone down?

Christel

I don't want to see sucky Mudhoney in Dallas and OKC. I guess I'll be drinking extra beers until I head into the show around 8:35ish then. Anyone down?

It's not Mudhoney but Midlake in Dallas and OKC. It's a pity I can't make it to the USA cause I would love to see them open for PJ.

PJ_Soul

Christel wrote:

I don't want to see sucky Mudhoney in Dallas and OKC. I guess I'll be drinking extra beers until I head into the show around 8:35ish then. Anyone down?

It's not Mudhoney but Midlake in Dallas and OKC. It's a pity I can't make it to the USA cause I would love to see them open for PJ.

Have you seen them live before?

Kimmiebyrom

Caveeze wrote:

Mike to point at people during "Hard to Imagine"

Oh God yes.