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Fighting cancer with HIV

sparky_frysparky_fry Posts: 760
edited November 2013 in A Moving Train
Impressive
http://loiter.co/v/doctors-take-a-long-shot-and-inject-hiv-into-dying/?fb_action_ids=10151644459052052&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B547722861958838%5D&action_type_map=%5B%22og.likes%22%5D&action_ref_map

Seems the link is down, try

http://youtu.be/nslinX6C1ZM
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    unbelievable
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    unbelievable
    I wonder if there's any way that the "engineered hiv cells" could mutate and cause aids. But either way, this truly is a remarkable achievement.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    Really, just amazing!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    unbelievable
    I wonder if there's any way that the "engineered hiv cells" could mutate and cause aids. But either way, this truly is a remarkable achievement.

    didn't it say something about the HIV cells having been "turned off". I don't think cells can turn back on after that, but I'm no Bill Nye.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    unbelievable
    I wonder if there's any way that the "engineered hiv cells" could mutate and cause aids. But either way, this truly is a remarkable achievement.

    didn't it say something about the HIV cells having been "turned off". I don't think cells can turn back on after that, but I'm no Bill Nye.

    Yeah, the impression I got was that the HIV virus was engineered such that it won't give the person AIDS.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I heard that, but could it mutate?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I heard that, but could it mutate?

    Good question. My mother was a lab technologist back when HIV was first discovered and she was very concerned that it would mutate as an airborne virus and yet so far it has not. Yours is a good question though. If I were on deaths door with cancer I would be willing to take the chance but if I thought the virus would mutate and spread to others I would let go. This thing I wonder is, if they can engineer the virus to not be communicable why can't they cure it in the first place?
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    brianlux wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I heard that, but could it mutate?

    Good question. My mother was a lab technologist back when HIV was first discovered and she was very concerned that it would mutate as an airborne virus and yet so far it has not. Yours is a good question though. If I were on deaths door with cancer I would be willing to take the chance but if I thought the virus would mutate and spread to others I would let go. This thing I wonder is, if they can engineer the virus to not be communicable why can't they cure it in the first place?

    you can do many things in a lab that you can't do to a human being without killing them.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I heard that, but could it mutate?

    I doubt it. it's kind of like the flu shot. it's the flu, but "turned off". it's dead. it's kind of like asking if we can bring people back to life after taking out their heart and/or brain. at least that's my understanding of it.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    If this can actually be a legitimate cancer cure, how long before these doctors disappear?
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    Incredible.

    Thanks for sharing. Hopefully these doctors don't disappear.
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