Washington Post Review - DC show

matt770

reborncareerist wrote:

I don't know ... I agree with the whole let Ed speak his mind about politics thing, but the whole "get some color in the White House" remark just further fueled my view that most musicians/entertainers vote for people based on shallow reasons. Ed's definitely done better with his political banter in the past.

'06 had much better political content -- that Masters of War is a classic, and the Cheney bit before Fuckin' Up was priceless.

rebornFixer

Smellyman wrote:

If not than why would that ONE comment just further fuel your view that most musicians/entertainers vote for people based on shallow reasons

Maybe I should be giving Ed the benefit of the doubt. I don't know. I am with those folks who believe that Obama is not some huge paragon of radical change, but that's a topic for the MT, I suppose.

obiwon76

rrivers wrote:

Yeah the review wasn't that bad. I agree with him completely on RVM. I have never liked the jam in the middle. The song kicks ass and doesn't lend itself to that.

I disagree. The whole beauty to RVM is the middle jam. If people want to hear the exact same version that is on the cds, that they shouldnt be dissapointed when it's played live. The middle jam is a vortex of 4 guitars and Matt experiementing with sounds that is hardly played the same way twice.

rebornFixer

Smellyman wrote:

If not than why would that ONE comment just further fuel your view that most musicians/entertainers vote for people based on shallow reasons

Maybe I should be giving Ed the benefit of the doubt. I don't know. I am with those folks who believe that Obama is not some huge paragon of radical change, but that's a topic for the MT, I suppose.

obiwon76

rrivers wrote:

Yeah the review wasn't that bad. I agree with him completely on RVM. I have never liked the jam in the middle. The song kicks ass and doesn't lend itself to that.

I disagree. The whole beauty to RVM is the middle jam. If people want to hear the exact same version that is on the cds, that they shouldnt be dissapointed when it's played live. The middle jam is a vortex of 4 guitars and Matt experiementing with sounds that is hardly played the same way twice.

rebornFixer

Smellyman wrote:

If not than why would that ONE comment just further fuel your view that most musicians/entertainers vote for people based on shallow reasons

Maybe I should be giving Ed the benefit of the doubt. I don't know. I am with those folks who believe that Obama is not some huge paragon of radical change, but that's a topic for the MT, I suppose.

obiwon76

rrivers wrote:

Yeah the review wasn't that bad. I agree with him completely on RVM. I have never liked the jam in the middle. The song kicks ass and doesn't lend itself to that.

I disagree. The whole beauty to RVM is the middle jam. If people want to hear the exact same version that is on the cds, that they shouldnt be dissapointed when it's played live. The middle jam is a vortex of 4 guitars and Matt experiementing with sounds that is hardly played the same way twice.

rebornFixer

Smellyman wrote:

If not than why would that ONE comment just further fuel your view that most musicians/entertainers vote for people based on shallow reasons

HOLY MULTIPOSTS!!!
Sorry!

obiwon76

rrivers wrote:

Yeah the review wasn't that bad. I agree with him completely on RVM. I have never liked the jam in the middle. The song kicks ass and doesn't lend itself to that.

I disagree. The whole beauty to RVM is the middle jam. If people want to hear the exact same version that is on the cds, that they shouldnt be dissapointed when it's played live. The middle jam is a vortex of 4 guitars and Matt experiementing with sounds that is hardly played the same way twice.

giraffie23

it is just this guy's blog posting. the official washpost review will likely come out tomorrow.

while i can't imagine not loving pearl jam, i also can't imagine having to be an objective listener of some band i despise. so...

let's see what the offical review says.

i thought the show was awesome and just kept building the energy...

but what do i know, i'm just a superfan.

inmyrvm

david malitz = dick

cbbjr

By the way, this wasn't the regular Post review. It was just for the blog. I disagree with some of the stuff he wrote, but I think his post is pretty good and definitely entertaining.

I love the comments about fuck all critics, he doesn't know what he is talking about, etc. Overall he definitely seemed to like the show! Just because he isn't bowing down to the band, and lets face it, we aren't exactly the most unbiased group of fans, doesn't mean his post his terrible.

Kingmidget

I'll agree that when looked at the set/review as a whole...some of PJs tunes bite and others really hit it.

Cool really to read a "decent" review from a non-addict.

That said, sounded like a good show overall and I wish I'd been there (as an addict

fuck

wtf happened on this page?

my2hands

David Malitz wrote:

31. Yellow Ledbetter: Can't escape it. What a terrible way to end an enjoyable evening. Simply put, this song is terrible. Please guys, retire this one.

what a jackass

ealasaid76

Was that a smack at Obama? That was uncalled for.

[shakes head]

rrivers

obiwon76 wrote:

I disagree. The whole beauty to RVM is the middle jam. If people want to hear the exact same version that is on the cds, that they shouldnt be dissapointed when it's played live. The middle jam is a vortex of 4 guitars and Matt experiementing with sounds that is hardly played the same way twice.

The RVM middle jam is better than your eighty posts.

I didn't say I wanted it played exactly the same as on the album, but that "jam" in the middle is just noise to me and totally takes the air out of a kick ass song.

wolfamongwolves

satansbedbugs wrote:

Does # 31 say what I think it says?

Was it really necessary to quote the entire 2000-word review just to ask that?!

wolfamongwolves

Best line of the entire review...

"Mike McCready, king of unnecessary hand gestures, broke out the jumping index finger twirl during this song."

cbbjr

Here is the print edition review.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062302042.html

The Pearl Jam Scene, Growing More Grateful by the Gig

Tuesday, June 24, 2008; C04

Pearl Jam abdicated the grunge throne and all but went on hiatus in the mid-1990s to fight Ticketmaster and the service charges concertgoers were billed by electronic ticket sellers. Fellow bands and music fans refused to join the righteous battle, however, so Pearl Jam caved.

On Sunday night, all these years later, the rebels of a lost cause were back at Verizon Center, a building owned by Abe Pollin, the very godfather of electronic ticketing back in the 1970s and the only Ticketmaster franchisee left.

And, good golly, did they rock Abe's house.

Adults can only get so enraptured, and the audience's euphoria level redlined again and again. The band-fan synthesis during "Given to Fly" left the whole building shaking -- like, actually shaking. Frontman Eddie Vedder occasionally slowed things down to throw lefty ("It's going to be great to get some color in the White House!" he yelled), but the scream-and-response session he led during "Daughter" would have given even John McCain goose bumps.

Even the folks in last rows of the upper deck were standing and shrieking every word of 1991's "Alive" as if they'd waited their whole lives for the opportunity. And the last minute of "Rearviewmirror" was about as frenzied as arena rock can get.

The band now sells downloads from all its shows and, probably not coincidentally, puts a Phish-like emphasis on set lists to make sure each show is somewhat unique. This gimmick has triggered the completist gene in Pearl Jam fans, who now mine set lists for rarities. Among this night's batch: "No More," an antiwar ballad that Vedder sang solo, and 1996's "I'm Open."

Whether spontaneous or the result of some manipulative plan, the feedback the band got from all those service charge-payers in the house was overwhelming. "I don't know what we did to get this kind of response from you," Vedder said.

You rocked, Eddie. That's what.

-- Dave McKenna