Ghost & Cropduster

obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
edited July 2007 in Given To Fly (live)
What happened to these fine gems from "Riot Act"? I dont think the band has polished them off live since 2005 for CD and 2003 for Ghost. I was listening to the 3rd Boston show today from 2003, and both of these songs were on the 2nd set. "Ghost" is very underappreciated. I hope they don't fall into the bin with "Who You Are".
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    obiwon76 wrote:
    What happened to these fine gems from "Riot Act"? I dont think the band has polished them off live since 2005 for CD and 2003 for Ghost. I was listening to the 3rd Boston show today from 2003, and both of these songs were on the 2nd set. "Ghost" is very underappreciated. I hope they don't fall into the bin with "Who You Are".

    Me too, but something tells me most of the songs from Riot Act that haven't been played with some regularity this past year, are pretty much done from the live setting.
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  • mole1985mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    Riot Act is one of my favourite PJ albums but some of the songs don't translate that well live. They are both great songs but they really do slow down the pace of the gig.
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  • Ghost was on the set list for Poland this year, but unplayed (half that show got cut it seems)
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    Ghost was on the set list for Poland this year, but unplayed (half that show got cut it seems)

    It was soundchecked in London and sounded incredible.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    It was soundchecked in London and sounded incredible.

    Hopefully it makes a comeback. That song is awesome and totally unappreciated.
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    yosi wrote:
    Hopefully it makes a comeback. That song is awesome and totally unappreciated.

    Definitely. I never understand why that song gets so much hate. I heard some live versions from 2003 and they lacked the punch of the studio cut, so i guess I can get that it didn't work live. However, hearing it from the soundcheck in London, it surpassed the album version.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Definitely. I never understand why that song gets so much hate. I heard some live versions from 2003 and they lacked the punch of the studio cut, so i guess I can get that it didn't work live. However, hearing it from the soundcheck in London, it surpassed the album version.

    It seems like a great early/mid-set rocker.
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  • TrixieCatTrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    It was soundchecked in London and sounded incredible.
    Stupid question alert. And it has had me wondering for a while, so sorry if it is an old and stupid one.
    Were you in the space for the soundcheck? Or were you waiting outside the doors and just happened to hear it?
    I would love to hear Ghost. I love it.
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  • cropdustresscropdustress Posts: 4,339
    We were all outside in the queue, but heard the soundcheck ;)
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  • TrixieCatTrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    We were all outside in the queue, but heard the soundcheck ;)
    Thank you! :)
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    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    Ghost was on the set list for Poland this year, but unplayed (half that show got cut it seems)

    i saw both ghost and cropduster live in 03, both good live. I prefer cropduster though, one of my faves of riot act
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  • audiodaveaudiodave Posts: 1,623
    Ghost was soundchecked a few times this tour but wasn't played, like a lot of other songs! I really like the song, but I was more gutted about the likes of In My Tree, Nothing As It Seems and Breakerfall being soundchecked and not played!
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  • augustwestaugustwest Posts: 739
    I'm very fond of Cropduster :)
  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    audiodave wrote:
    Ghost was soundchecked a few times this tour but wasn't played, like a lot of other songs! I really like the song, but I was more gutted about the likes of In My Tree, Nothing As It Seems and Breakerfall being soundchecked and not played!
    Breakerfall was played at Werchter... better late than never I guess.
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  • einatshauleinatshaul Posts: 2,219
    I also thought I didn't care for ghot, till I heard the soundcheck! I was really surprised I remembered it so well and was sorry they didn't end up playing it... Though, can't complain! Got LROM and breath finally!!! :) They'll bring it back...
  • obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
    Good thoughts from everyone. One of the reasons I miss these two songs is because they were just released a years ago. I could understand not playing, "Habit" or "Faithfull", but Riot Act was released in 03, and pretty much was only played live during that tour. I feel these songs weren't given their full justice in a live setting.
    I dont think anyone knows besides the band what the process is for deciding which song is set-list staple, "E-Flo" , "Evolution", but it's a shame that "Ghost" probably won't make an appearance anytime soon. Usually as the band gets older, they also play songs differently from years ago, thus another cause for dissapointed to hear "Ghost" 2007 vs 2003.
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  • garden87garden87 Posts: 1
    I totally agree it took me a good year and a half to really respect riot act its now the album i listen to the most Ghost is my favorite.
  • pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    i think Ghost is one of my favorite songs...I was watching Showbox recently and it made also me wonder why it wasn't played more. soooo good
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    Ghost from St Paul '03 is really good (lyric change to "Fuck you all" and it seems really intense). Cropduster is good, but it really kills the crowd for some reason (saw it in St Paul '03 and T. Bay '05).
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  • Both awesome songs.
  • audiodaveaudiodave Posts: 1,623
    fowls wrote:
    Breakerfall was played at Werchter... better late than never I guess.
    No it wasn't. Unless all the setlists I have seen are wrong.
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  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    audiodave wrote:
    No it wasn't. Unless all the setlists I have seen are wrong.
    Oh, my bad. Could've sworn it was when I first saw the setlist. Must be going delusional.
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  • Dirty FrankkDirty Frankk Posts: 4,274
    Sorry I don't want to hear those songs, I have 100 better song on the list that I want to hear them play but those 2 songs are far away from that list!!

    I saw thread about 1/2 full, Rival and now this 2 song...it's too much, just a bottom of PJ songs...sorry!!
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  • cropdustresscropdustress Posts: 4,339
    Sorry I don't want to hear those songs, I have 100 better song on the list that I want to hear them play but those 2 songs are far away from that list!!

    I saw thread about 1/2 full, Rival and now this 2 song...it's too much, just a bottom of PJ songs...sorry!!
    I guess you didnt hear Cropduster when they soundchecked it in Zagreb :D
    It was pretty awesome and I know theyll play it someday, and Ill be there.
    I guess lots of us got spoilt now that weve seen them numbers of times and
    wanna pick songs, make a setlist. but the bottom line is, whatever PJ decides to play, its awesome. now, if they can add these two every once in a while, it would be even better ;):D
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  • Ditto everything ya said! I'm at the point where i could care less what they play. I'm just there to enjoy the show. GET ON AIM right now SID! please!
  • obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
    Songburst wrote:
    Ghost from St Paul '03 is really good (lyric change to "Fuck you all" and it seems really intense). Cropduster is good, but it really kills the crowd for some reason (saw it in St Paul '03 and T. Bay '05).

    I was listening to this show this morning on the drive to work. The Ed improv, "Fuck you All" was priceless. I can almost see the faces of the people in the front row. Great solo by Mike as well. Ed recovered at the end of the song with a nice, "Fuck em All", not to offend anyone directly.
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  • obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
    Songburst wrote:
    Ghost from St Paul '03 is really good (lyric change to "Fuck you all" and it seems really intense). Cropduster is good, but it really kills the crowd for some reason (saw it in St Paul '03 and T. Bay '05).

    "Cropduster" live is somewhat intriguing because when I saw them in DC 03, they had the backdrop going and throughout the entire song it was just a maze of green lights. So, is the audience perhaps in a trance staring at this weird formation, or are they truly bored?
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  • dannydanny Posts: 2,279
    obiwon76 wrote:
    What happened to these fine gems from "Riot Act"? I dont think the band has polished them off live since 2005 for CD and 2003 for Ghost. I was listening to the 3rd Boston show today from 2003, and both of these songs were on the 2nd set. "Ghost" is very underappreciated. I hope they don't fall into the bin with "Who You Are".
    i agree
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  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    Bring these back as well as help, help. The end of help, help is epic as far as I'm concerned.
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Bring these back as well as help, help. The end of help, help is epic as far as I'm concerned.
    I agree. That song is totally underrated.
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