do people not read up on vinyl collecting?

i am a targeti am a target Posts: 808
edited September 2008 in The Porch
it's BAD for the record cover to keep it sealed. you can increase the chance of the corners getting bent and getting those fun little pressure rings made by the vinyl on the cover.

open it.
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    hobbes wrote:
    it's BAD for the record cover to keep it sealed. you can increase the chance of the corners getting bent and getting those fun little pressure rings made by the vinyl on the cover.

    open it.

    good advice
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  • I open all my vinyl except my benny hall. I'm sure in 10 years I can make a good pay day from that sealed sucker.
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  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    I open all my vinyl except my benny hall. I'm sure in 10 years I can make a good pay day from that sealed sucker.
    Yeah - that's my future kid's college fund.

    Just kidding... but I have not opened it. Just because I dont have a good record player anyway...

    I would have to disagree about opening it. If you're collecting for value it would take some away, although I understand the reasons to do so.

    Half of my vinyl is opened and listened to and half is still sealed. It sounds great - especially on Vitalogy for some reason to me, anyway.
  • I was told not to lay the vinyls flat. That could warp them.
  • soclosesoclose Posts: 628
    I was told not to lay the vinyls flat. That could warp them.

    This is what I've been told as well. Was also told that keeping the record sealed will warp the LP.

    I'm not a "collector" though. I don't buy a record unless I intend to listen to it.
  • right, they should be kept upright, i dont even keep the records in the original sleeves themselves, i keep them all seperate in their own sleeves to avoid those pressure rings that the original poster mentioned.

    the one who started this thread is right...it does more damage to keep em sealed! open them! listen to them! you really think pearl jam released them on vinyl so that they could sit on someone's shelf and never be heard!

    the ones who really kill me are the poeple who collect the vinyl but dont even have a record player, dont even have a means to hear em!

    ...if its not about the music people then whats it about? good frisbies?
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  • NYbenbenNYbenben Posts: 1,020
    i am not an expert by ANY means on the subject. i do however have a decent collection of sealed vinyl albums... PJ and otherwise... i have NEVER seen any holes or marks left on the album covers.... i dont open them becuse it defeats he purpose of stating MINT condition...that is the one real way you are assured that NO ONE has played your album before...

    am i looking at this the wrong way?
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  • fanofzsfanofzs NYC Posts: 509
    I'm a collector. Definitely keep records vertical. Laying them horizontally or at an angle will cause the record to warp or dish. Also, tight shrink on sealed records can cause warping. Clean your records too. Use at least a carbon fiber brush before and after spinning.

    Here are some good links:

    At least view "Storage" here...
    http://www.recordcollectorsguild.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=15&page=1

    http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/recordcleaning.html
  • shrink wrap=bad

    most of the new vinyl is not being shrink wrapped now it's packaged in a reuseable plastic protector sleeve... You can keep these sealed if you wish to keep it in it's unopened collector state..
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  • Red LukinRed Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    fanofzs wrote:
    I'm a collector. Definitely keep records vertical. Laying them horizontally or at an angle will cause the record to warp or dish. Also, tight shrink on sealed records can cause warping. Clean your records too. Use at least a carbon fiber brush before and after spinning.

    Here are some good links:

    At least view "Storage" here...
    http://www.recordcollectorsguild.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=15&page=1

    http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/recordcleaning.html

    Hey thanks a lot for the links. I recently purchased some vinyl and kept them in the wrap. Not really collecting them per say, but know I'll buy a player in the future (just waiting til I can afford a nice one).

    The only problem I really have is keeping them under the right temperature. Toronto's weather goes from one extreme to the other, so it's not easy to keep the house at a constant temperature.
  • AmherstJammerAmherstJammer Amherst, Massachusetts Posts: 1,510
    I open all my vinyl except my benny hall. I'm sure in 10 years I can make a good pay day from that sealed sucker.

    If I don't find one in ten years on September 9, 2018 I'll offer you $2,600 for your benny hall.

    I'll put away $5. a week for ten years. That's $2,600!
  • cant people just do what they want with it????
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  • sure they can do whatever they want with it.
    that doenst mean its not lame to have music that youve never even heard.
    it also doesnt mean that its not good advice to open them up so that they can be better protected.
    the shrinkwrap is bad, it compresses the vinyl into the cover, eventually making a 12in circle visible on the cover. thus, you can have a still sealed record in less than mint condition.
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  • zenithzenith Posts: 3,191

    the ones who really kill me are the poeple who collect the vinyl but dont even have a record player, dont even have a means to hear em!

    ...if its not about the music people then whats it about? good frisbies?

    profit :rolleyes:

    every vinyl in my house has been played, enjoyed and now reminisced over ... and if they ever do get passed on it'll be to my kids who get a kick out of playing them crackly old things mum used to listen to when she was a kid ;)
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  • yep, profit...i just posted a long diatribe about profit in the "vinyl, limited edition and why?" thread.

    this very word has nothing to do with collecting records...profit should not be on your mind when you buy a record.

    open em, listen to em, be happy.
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  • bazzerbazzer Posts: 3,125
    What if you want to play them but you're afraid of damaging them? Imagine playing Benaroya and something happens and it ends up with a giant scratch and it's unplayable?

    How will you buy another one?

    They are only mint once. Once you play them, there's no going back. It's a big step.
  • yes this would suck...but its like avoiding walking down the street cause a car "might" run you over. accidents do happen but there is no point in living your life in fear of the "what if?"
    if youre playing a record very dear to you, you should be careful with it.
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  • bazzerbazzer Posts: 3,125
    I guess it's like Mr play it safe, who was afriad to fly
    he packed his suitcase and kissed his wife goodbye
    he waited his whole damn life to get on that flight
    and as the plane crashed down, he said
    "well isn't this nice?"

    or something like that. I've been diligent and collected all the vinyl over many years. I fully intend to play it, but I always said I'd wait till I got a decent turntable. I feel a $500+ album deserves a pretty good turntable, so Benaroya may have to wait until my next upgrade :)
  • dpmaydpmay Posts: 643
    i have lots of records, and listen to them all, in fact almost every day i spin something. i've purchased the vast majority of them used, and almost never have any problems at all with quality and playability, outside of a few hisses, pops and crackles here and there...who cares, right?

    a small minority of my vinyl i bought brand new, and those always sound perfect, except one: vitalogy. i bought it the day it was released back in 94 and it's never played right. in fact, it skips so badly i can't even suffer through listening to it. i've tried it on several turntables, and it looks perfect...but still, i can't play it.

    it's a real drag every time i see it on the record shelf. anyone else ever hear of a problem like this, a brand-new, seemingly perfect vinyl not playing at all?
  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Real vinyl collectors play their records...not store them in a box somewhere waiting for the value to go up.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    yep, profit...i just posted a long diatribe about profit in the "vinyl, limited edition and why?" thread.

    this very word has nothing to do with collecting records...profit should not be on your mind when you buy a record.

    open em, listen to em, be happy.


    All my records get played. I buy them for my love and passion of music.

    I couldn't go two minutes without playing a new record. I get the itch to hear the vinyl, it gnaws at me if I'm tied up doing something else or don't have the time to play it right there and then.

    But I find your diatribe rather silly and childish.

    Everyone is different. We're not all the same.

    Who are you to tell other people what to do with their records, their money or their intentions?

    It's none of your business what other's do with their records.

    Do it your way, what ever makes you happy, enjoy it and stop trying to tell everyone else to live and do according to your holy law of vinyl.

    My diatribe, over:D
  • I was told not to lay the vinyls flat. That could warp them.

    Sort of... Don't stack them. Laying a couple flat won't hurt, but if you stack them, the pressure will not only warp them, it'll flatten the grooves.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,991
    wouldn't this depend if you are a collector or investor?

    In my view a collector enjoys the collection(i.e. spinning the f@$% out of them) , While the investor waits for the opportune time to sell.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    NYbenben wrote:
    i am not an expert by ANY means on the subject. i do however have a decent collection of sealed vinyl albums... PJ and otherwise... i have NEVER seen any holes or marks left on the album covers.... i dont open them becuse it defeats he purpose of stating MINT condition...that is the one real way you are assured that NO ONE has played your album before...

    am i looking at this the wrong way?

    i have a 12" copy of joy division's love will tear us apart. twas in my record store once and i spotted a copy on the wall for sale for inxs of $100. i asked the guy why the big price tag and whats the difference between the one on the wall and the one i have that hasnt been played in over 25 years. he said theres no difference except the sticker that says its a promo copy. doubt ill be selling any of my vinyl for profit.
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,606
    All of my vinyl is opened and played, even Benaroya. I used to keep everything sealed but at the end of the day I figure

    a: I am never EVER going to sell them so keeping them sealed because they may be worth more isn't relevant;

    b: who am I trying to impress by having sealed copies? It would be like Nigel Tufnell in Spinal Tap "Don't even look at the guitar" - "Hey look at this album, yeah the cover looks nice but you can't hear it!"

    c: the most important thing is this:

    !!!MUSIC SOUNDS BETTER ON VINYL!!!
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    goldrush wrote:
    !!!MUSIC SOUNDS BETTER ON VINYL!!!

    AND VINYL IS BETTER WHEN PLAYED. :D


    all you collectors are just corporate whores but choose to ignore that fact cause its music, man. :p
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  • goldrush wrote:
    !!!MUSIC SOUNDS BETTER ON VINYL!!!

    Not if the record is mastered poorly.
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