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Brooklyn 2 vs MSG 2 2010

NothingBetterThanLeathermanNothingBetterThanLeatherman Posts: 145
edited October 2013 in Given To Fly (live)
I was at both and looking for opinions. Which do you think was better. Both were amazing
5/21/10 M.S.G
5/18/10 Newark
9/27/09 Philly Spectrum
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,552
    MSG 2010. Best crowd I've ever been in.
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • NothingBetterThanLeathermanNothingBetterThanLeatherman Posts: 145
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    MSG 2010. Best crowd I've ever been in.

    I agree. While last night was great (better than prob 40 other show crowds I've been at) I don't understand the MSG comparisons. I can still here that nights betterman in my head. Corduroy kick in the teeth to start and just the way the crowd fed off of it.
    5/21/10 M.S.G
    5/18/10 Newark
    9/27/09 Philly Spectrum
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    edited October 2013
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    MSG 2010. Best crowd I've ever been in.

    Wasn't at 2013 but the 2010 MSG crowds were insane. Both nights. The loudest I've ever heard! And I've seen shows in Europe ;)

    Europe definitely has more energy, jumping clapping etc, but besides the South American shows, I've never heard a louder crowd (in person or on cd)

    Just listen to the audience response from Betterman 2010. When Ed sings " oh ohh oh ohh oh oh" the crowd drowned him out repeating it! He even says "YOU GOT IT" and laughs at just how loud and incredible it was. Crazy.
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  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    NothingBetterThanLeatherman wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    MSG 2010. Best crowd I've ever been in.

    I agree. While last night was great (better than prob 40 other show crowds I've been at) I don't understand the MSG comparisons. I can still here that nights betterman in my head. Corduroy kick in the teeth to start and just the way the crowd fed off of it.

    See??? I'm speaking truth here ;)
  • 63schoefflin63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    2010...I was at both.
    '08- Camden 1-2   '09- Chicago 2; Spectrum 1-4
    '10- MSG 1-2   '11- PJ20
    '12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
    '14- Denver   '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
    '17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
    '18- Fenway
  • Released1980Released1980 Posts: 1,790
    Instinctive answer...

    I do not remember ANY shows first set blowing me the fuck away like that! Those first 20 songs last night was like a Mohammad Ali knockout in the first round! I was GEEKING out going into 1st encore, I knew right after that first set that this was gonna get real crazy REAL FAST!

    Not saying it was better, just sayin...
    "It's so nice to hear that in other parts of the world, the stress- borne from envy- that one finds for themselves is the animosity they develop towards a person selling a box of records. How fortunate!" ~ Thirty Bills Unpaid

    MLMF NYC
  • vitodacatvitodacat Posts: 475
    Last night was a GREAT GREAT GREAT show

    But MSG 2 2010 was to use a word used to loosely around here, EPIC
    Slukin, dammit !!


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  • Released1980Released1980 Posts: 1,790
    If we are talking crowd and all that shit, then 2010 hands down was collectively better. I know me personally kicked ass both nights like fucking Bruce Lee... But from a strictly band performance.... music, songs, progressions, crispness of their perfectness. Ummmm, last night was fucking Magical! I think the band felt the same as well... ;)
    "It's so nice to hear that in other parts of the world, the stress- borne from envy- that one finds for themselves is the animosity they develop towards a person selling a box of records. How fortunate!" ~ Thirty Bills Unpaid

    MLMF NYC
  • mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,395
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    MSG 2010. Best crowd I've ever been in.

    Truth (I was at both)
  • mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,395
    I still think MSG 2 '98 was my favorite NYC show, though.
  • NYCPJNYCPJ nyc Posts: 764
    I'd probably give the nod to MSG 2 2010 but both were fantastic and had a similar vibe. It may just be a matter of personal preference on set list MSG 2 - Breath, Black Red Yellow, Hunger Strike, Push me Pull me, Slow Lukin, Sweet Lew (which was kind of cool to see, even though not my favorite song) - Brooklyn 2 - Wash, Blood, All those yesterdays. The MSG show blew my mind just a little more.

    Frankly, I keep on going back to Brooklyn 1 in my head - I thought that set list was almost perfect. It really flowed well. I had given up on hearing Oceans and loved hearing it as the starter for the encores (plus we got Release and Sleight of Hand). And Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns blew me away. Not saying Brooklyn 1 was better than either the MSG 2 show or Brooklyn 2, but I wouldnt put it too far behind those shows. I would have been really bummed to have missed it.
    6/3/06 (East Rutherford 2)
    6/24/08 (MSG1)
    6/25/08 (MSG2)
    7/1/08 (Beacon Theater -NYC)
    10/30/09 (Philly3)
    5/18/10 (Newark, NJ)
    5/20/10 (MSG1)
    5/21/10 (MSG2)
    10/18/13 (Brooklyn 1)
    10/19/13 (Brooklyn 2)
    5/1/16 (MSG 1)
    5/2/16 (MSG 2)
    3/30/20 (MSG)
    9/3/24 I(MSG1)
    9/4/24 (MSG 2)
  • mrpink90mrpink90 Posts: 415
    i was at both, both were epic. since i was the pit for brooklyn im going with brooklyn.


    msg 1 2003 is still my favorite pearl jam show ever.
  • faf80faf80 Posts: 21
    I was at both. MSG 2 2010, but it's soooooo close. Can't wait to get these boots... they gotta be doing them, right??

    Also can't wait to see them at the new MSG... you KNOW they'll be back for that.
    9/8/98, 9/10/98, 4/13/03, 4/29/03, 4/30/03, 6/6/03, 7/8/03, 7/9/03, 7/14/03, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 8/5/07, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/18/13, 10/19/13
  • The_Giant_MidgetThe_Giant_Midget Los Angeles Posts: 586
    i was at both. MSG2s crowd was a little bit better but setlist wise despite MSG getting Hunger Strike, Lukin 2, and Black Red Yellow id go with Brooklyn 2. Bands energy/performance were very similar, they killed both nights. when i left MSG 2 i said no way anything can top this (i was at the 4 Philly shows in 09 too) but now im replaying Brooklyn 2 in my head so right now id lean with Brooklyn 2. the clincher may just be because of Lightning Bolt being better for the setlist than Backspacer was.
    Beacon '08
    Philly 2-4 '09
    Newark '10
    MSG 1+2 '10
    E.V. Beacon 1+2 '11
    Made in America Festival '12
    Worcester 1+2 '13
    Brooklyn 1+2 '13
    Global Citizens Festival '15
    MSG 1+2 '16
    Fenway Park 1+2 '16
    Ohana '17
    Home Shows 1+2 '18
    Ohana '18
    Ohana '19
    Sea Hear Now '21
    Ohana '21
    LA 1+2 '22
    Austin 1+2 '23
    Ohana '23
    Vegas 1+2 '24
    LA 1+2 '24
    MSG 1+2 '24
    Ohana '24
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,541
    This is tough it's like choosing wich of your kids is your fav but since I'm still bussing from Brklyn II i'm going with this show ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,515
    josevolution wrote:
    This is tough it's like choosing wich of your kids is your fav but since I'm still bussing from Brklyn II i'm going with this show ...

    Brooklyn 2 was the best since Philly 3 09 for me.
  • BizzzyBozzzyBizzzyBozzzy San Diego Posts: 388
    "And away we go..."

    I gotta be honest, my memory stinks. I was at MSG 2 and Brooklyn 2 and what I remember from MSG 2 is the idea that it was amazing. I remember leaving and saying, "this is now at the top of the list". I vividly remember Betterman, and my favorite song (Present Tense) and I know it was great...but it was 3 years ago and I've been to a lot of shows since then. Anyone else have this problem or do you all remember it like it was yesterday?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,541
    Get_Right wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    This is tough it's like choosing wich of your kids is your fav but since I'm still bussing from Brklyn II i'm going with this show ...

    Brooklyn 2 was the best since Philly 3 09 for me.

    Yeah if they would of played Breath & Parting ways on Saturday it would brake the tie for me as of now , do yu think Friday will top it ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • 63schoefflin63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    Brooklyn 2 was the best show since MSG 2 that I've seen. Funny how my top shows were all right in a row:

    Spectrum 4
    Spectrum 3
    MSG 2

    This almost broke the string of power shows, ha.
    '08- Camden 1-2   '09- Chicago 2; Spectrum 1-4
    '10- MSG 1-2   '11- PJ20
    '12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
    '14- Denver   '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
    '17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
    '18- Fenway
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,515
    josevolution wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    This is tough it's like choosing wich of your kids is your fav but since I'm still bussing from Brklyn II i'm going with this show ...

    Brooklyn 2 was the best since Philly 3 09 for me.

    Yeah if they would of played Breath & Parting ways on Saturday it would brake the tie for me as of now , do yu think Friday will top it ...
    Yes!
  • NYCPJNYCPJ nyc Posts: 764
    Get_Right wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    This is tough it's like choosing wich of your kids is your fav but since I'm still bussing from Brklyn II i'm going with this show ...

    Brooklyn 2 was the best since Philly 3 09 for me.

    That is a whole other matter -- for me, Philly 3 was better than both MSG 2 and Brooklyn 2. In the end, I'm glad i got to see all three of those shows, plus MSG 1 and Brooklyn 1. Its a nice problem to have -- debating which show you attended is best among those incredible shows! I feel very fortunate to have been able to attend them.
    6/3/06 (East Rutherford 2)
    6/24/08 (MSG1)
    6/25/08 (MSG2)
    7/1/08 (Beacon Theater -NYC)
    10/30/09 (Philly3)
    5/18/10 (Newark, NJ)
    5/20/10 (MSG1)
    5/21/10 (MSG2)
    10/18/13 (Brooklyn 1)
    10/19/13 (Brooklyn 2)
    5/1/16 (MSG 1)
    5/2/16 (MSG 2)
    3/30/20 (MSG)
    9/3/24 I(MSG1)
    9/4/24 (MSG 2)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    comparing shows is silly
  • dreaminginreddreaminginred Baltimore, MD Posts: 64
    NothingBetterThanLeatherman wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    MSG 2010. Best crowd I've ever been in.

    I agree. While last night was great (better than prob 40 other show crowds I've been at) I don't understand the MSG comparisons. I can still here that nights betterman in my head. Corduroy kick in the teeth to start and just the way the crowd fed off of it.

    Ditto... Brooklyn II was amazing but there was just some extra special about the MSG II show. Hunger Strike with Ben Bridwell was also a high point of that show for me. But def one of my favorite set lists! And I love that the Betterman from that night is in the doc.
    "And we don't need those guys 'cause you got me!" -EV
    "I miss you already... I miss you always."

    Philly- 10.03.05
    DC- 05.30.06
    Philly- 10.31.09
    NYC- 05.21.10
    Seattle- 07.15.11
    Brooklyn- 10.19.13
    Baltimore!- 10.27.13
    Philly- 4.29.16
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,515
    NYCPJ wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    This is tough it's like choosing wich of your kids is your fav but since I'm still bussing from Brklyn II i'm going with this show ...

    Brooklyn 2 was the best since Philly 3 09 for me.

    That is a whole other matter -- for me, Philly 3 was better than both MSG 2 and Brooklyn 2. In the end, I'm glad i got to see all three of those shows, plus MSG 1 and Brooklyn 1. Its a nice problem to have -- debating which show you attended is best among those incredible shows! I feel very fortunate to have been able to attend them.

    Every time they come around there is one show that stands out for me and I kind of put them all on the same level.
    Bk2 2013
    MSG 2 2010
    Ph 3 2009
    Hartford 2008
    Albany 2006
  • belthookbelthook Bergen County, NJ Posts: 100
    I was at both as well and MSG 2 2010 was better IMO. Not to slight BK2 but there is something about MSG that gives it that "magical" feel. Barclays was nice it's just not the Garden.
    • 2024: 09/03/24 MSG, 09/07/24 Philly
    • 2022: 02/06/22 NJ PAC (EV & Earthlings), 09/11/22 MSG, 09/14/22 Camden
    • 2021: 09/18/21 Asbury Park
    • 2018: 09/02/18 Fenway Park
    • 2016: 08/05/16 Fenway Park, 05/02/16 MSG, 05/01/16 MSG
    • 2013: 10/18/13 Barclay's, 10/19/13 Barclay's
    • 2010: 05/21/10 MSG, 05/20/10 MSG
    • 2008: 08/07/08 NJ PAC (EV Solo), 6/25/08 MSG
    • 2006: 06/03/06 Continental Airlines Arena, 06/01/06 Continental Airlines Arena
    • 2003: 07/14/03 PNC, 07/09/03 MSG, 07/08/03 MSG
    • 1998: 09/08/98 Continental Airlines Arena
    • 1996: 10/02/96 Dodge Music Center


  • scratched vinylscratched vinyl Posts: 742
    I wasn't at either :evil: but on paper, MSG is probably the best set list PJ's ever put together. MSG 2 way over Brooklyn 2. On paper of course.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,443
    MSG II for me. I liked the setlist better. The crowds were about the same, maybe slight edge for msg.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • its_okits_ok Posts: 200
    Wasn't at msg 2 2010, but went to msg 1 and 2 in 2008, and my feeling now is that Brooklyn 2 was better than both those!

    Def top 5 shows, possibly top 3 on my PJ list.
    PJ
    2000 Roskilde, 2006 Barcelona, 2007 London, Copenhagen, 2008 New York 1, New York 2, 2009 Berlin, 2010 Dublin, Belfast, 2012 Amsterdam 1, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, 2013 Brooklyn 1, Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014 Milan, Trieste, Berlin, Stockholm, Milton Keynes

    EV
    2012 Manchester, London 1, London 2
  • dirtyFrank222dirtyFrank222 Posts: 124
    I was at MSG both 03 First night 08 Newark 10 and MSG 10 both nights and Brooklyn both nights so hard to say all AMAZING shows but there there is somthing magic about MSG Brooklyn night 1 Rlease Oceans Slieght of Hand Indifrerence NICE!!!
  • okblueduckokblueduck Posts: 427
    Was at both - loved both but give a slight edge to MSG 2 2010. That show was electric start to finish and to this day one of the concerts I have ever attended.
    Fenway 1 & 2 2016
    MSG 1 & 2 2016
    Central Park 2015
    Barclays 2, Seattle 2013
    MSG 1 & 2 2010
    Boston 1 & 2 2006
    Boston 1 2004
    Augusta 1996
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