does yr state still have institutions 4 ppl w/ disabilities

blondieblue227blondieblue227 Posts: 4,509
edited October 2013 in A Moving Train
i'm telling you right away how this effects you. because people seem so disengaged about disability issues.
if you care how your taxes are spent, you may care about this issue.
i don't know, just throwing it out there. whatever.

if there are state funded institutions in your state (often called training centers) your tax money could be going to somewhere that will shock and sadden you.

in my state, Virginia, the Dept of Justice recently did an investigation and said all VA institutions had to close now.
this year a new institution is being built near me.
it angers and confuses me.

i don't see how tax dollars can be used to segregate and seclude when it's 3xs cheaper to care for a person with a disability in their home?

do you care how your tax dollars are being spent?

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I do care, on many levels - both about people and our taxes - but I don't use Facebook.

    I think unless someone has been directly affected, it's unfortunately too easy to be unaware of issues like this.

    Always for doing whatever can be done in the home - no place like it - vs. somewhere unfamiliar in surroundings, people, pets, comfort.

    (sorry if I strayed from your intent...I'm not sure how this whole institution/training center is set up)
  • hedonist wrote:
    I'm not sure how this whole institution/training center is set up


    yeah. that's partly why i decided to post this. people don't know. and maybe they should?

    i hope there's just enough info on that page to familiarize people.
    hope you can view it and access the links even if you have no Facebook account.



    i ask everybody reading this:
    does your state have institutions AKA training centers? are you aware what takes place in these 'warehouses' for people with disabilities?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,049
    hedonist wrote:
    I'm not sure how this whole institution/training center is set up


    yeah. that's partly why i decided to post this. people don't know. and maybe they should?

    i hope there's just enough info on that page to familiarize people.
    hope you can view it and access the links even if you have no Facebook account.



    i ask everybody reading this:
    does your state have institutions AKA training centers? are you aware what takes place in these 'warehouses' for people with disabilities?

    I'm not sure about the state of California as a whole but here in Placerville we have a program called MORE- Mother Lode Rehabilitiation Enterprises, Inc. They have a fine reputation in our area in terms of serving well local people with disabilities. We see care givers with their folks in the bookstore from time to time and everything seems really good with them and we treat them like everybody else- very friendly. I guess we're lucky that way.*

    http://morerehab.org/

    *edit: by that I mean lucky to have an organization like MORE.
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  • brianlux wrote:
    We see care givers with their folks in the bookstore from time to time and everything seems really good with them and we treat them like everybody else- very friendly. I guess we're lucky that way.*

    http://morerehab.org/

    *edit: by that I mean lucky to have an organization like MORE.

    i agree. it's good to have groups like that. from what you said it seems like they are assisting folks with getting out into the community. excellent.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i live close to this ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgepoint_Health

    i'm not sure what the context of this thread is tho ... is it a suggestion that people with disabilities be treated at home? ... instead of funding for buildings that costs a lot of money and are poorly run?

  • i agree. it's good to have groups like that. from what you said it seems like they are assisting folks with getting out into the community. excellent.


    I agree with you here blondieblue. I work with community based Cognitive Rehab for individuals with Traumatic Brain Injuries and on the autism spectrum. Not only is it cheaper but it's more affective. Being taught to do things in your own environment leads to independence that leads to not needing to be supported by life long, expensive, treatment facilities. Pennsylvania has a fee attached to traffic violations that aids one year long rehab for individuals with TBI. PA also has a waiver program that has been a cluster of fucks for the past 4 years due to budget cuts.

    That being said, hail hail the lucky ones who have the ability to stay at home. This often requires supports and resources that many people don't have.

    But I guess the question is, would it be more cost efficient to gives these people those supports and resources needed to survive in their community? This would lead to more independence and community integration (by definition)?


    Thanks for the conscious thoughts on these issues though! It's definitely crucial to consider this with war vets coming home.
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  • polaris_x wrote:
    i'm not sure what the context of this thread is tho ... is it a suggestion that people with disabilities be treated at home? ... instead of funding for buildings that costs a lot of money and are poorly run?

    yes. exactly.
    and like all disability issues, this doesn't seem to get much press. even thou the issues have to do with morals and economics.
    i hope this thread is rising awareness.

    Thanks for the conscious thoughts on these issues though! It's definitely crucial to consider this with war vets coming home.

    excellent point.

    But I guess the question is, would it be more cost efficient to gives these people those supports and resources needed to survive in their community? This would lead to more independence and community integration (by definition)?

    Of course it will lead to more independence and community integration.
    pretty hard to achieve that if all the people with disabilities are corralled like cattle in a huge building separate from their community.
    there is no question…
    IT IS cheaper to care for people with any type of disability in their home.



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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,049
    i hope this thread is rising awareness.

    Likewise, and thanks for doing it.

    We tend to shove issues like this aside because some people are uneasy with them. But raising awareness can really turn heads around. A great example of this is with the blind kids in the movie Blindsight. I just recently saw this excellent documentary that tells the story of six blind Tibetan teenagers who achieve remarkable things and in doing so, have raised awareness and erased some misconceptions and have helped many kids to now have a better chance to live a better life in Tibet.
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Posts: 4,509
    lovely. do people even know they are paying for this bullcrap?

    State Earmarks $11 Million To Keep 6 In Institution
    http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2014/05/23/state-earmarks-11-million/19387/
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