“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”
aerial
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“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.
News.......
Today, October 13, 2013 is a banner day, not only is it the last day of the Truckers Ride for the Constitution in DC but it is also the 1 Million Veteran March on the nation’s Memorials that the Obama administration has shut down as part of the government shutdown, in some cases spending more to shut them down and lock out nation’s veterans out, than it would have cost to keep them open.
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One question I have is why are the Democrats and other Republicans not there ????????
ACCOUNT OF TODAY EVENTS IN DC REPORTED FIRST HAND BY DENNIS MICHAEL LYNCH:
This is the only video I can share right now. It's towards the end of the White House events. Let me explain how this all happened...
The VET march was a huge success. Thousands of people attended. I opened the ceremony with a short speech. Then other spoke including Palin and Cruz. The vets took down the barricades and tossed them in a pile near the street. Then the truckers came in. It was simply insane it was so cool. Then the cops tried to block the truckers. That's when things started to get loud. Every VET was cool, calm and collected despite the BS being put forward by the police. Then a taxi driver got pissed because of the traffic and got out of his car and started fighting with the VETS. I captured all of this. The VETS showed unbelievable restraint.
Then the rally ended. Everyone went over to the Vietnam Wall. But I chose to go home to catch the ladder part of my daughter's birthday party. As I was walking to Amtrak, I saw two buses stuck at the corner led by BIKER escorts. I asked the BIKERS, "What's wrong?" He answered, "They won't let them out." The bus was literally 500 feet from the Memorial and yet to cops would not let the 90 year old men out. They had to be wheeled down the block. It was pathetic and I seriously lost myself. I walked off and cried because I was so angry. God must have made me walk away, because when I went to the side to catch myself I looked up and saw something unreal.
The VETS who were at the Vietnam Wall had grabbed the barricades and started carrying them to the White House. By this time the media had left. So I am there by myself watching a thousand people march to the WH. Many of them younger men carrying barricades.
When they got to the White House they stacked the barricades. It was wild. The police came in. They demanded we move away from the fence. But nobody was doing anything wrong? It was peaceful. However they used force. I was literally right there the entire time. Not 10 feet back, not 20 feet to the side.... RIGHT IN THERE. I had words with one cop who hit me. If FOX doesn't use the video, I will. It has profanity but I was protecting a little boy who was being trampled. LET ME SAY THIS LOUD AND CLEAR... The VETS and the protestors were not violent. They were honest, true, respectful to those around them and NEVER ONCE did anyone lift a hand.
― Martin Luther King Jr.
News.......
Today, October 13, 2013 is a banner day, not only is it the last day of the Truckers Ride for the Constitution in DC but it is also the 1 Million Veteran March on the nation’s Memorials that the Obama administration has shut down as part of the government shutdown, in some cases spending more to shut them down and lock out nation’s veterans out, than it would have cost to keep them open.
https://www.facebook.com/2MillionBikers ... 9079919942
One question I have is why are the Democrats and other Republicans not there ????????
ACCOUNT OF TODAY EVENTS IN DC REPORTED FIRST HAND BY DENNIS MICHAEL LYNCH:
This is the only video I can share right now. It's towards the end of the White House events. Let me explain how this all happened...
The VET march was a huge success. Thousands of people attended. I opened the ceremony with a short speech. Then other spoke including Palin and Cruz. The vets took down the barricades and tossed them in a pile near the street. Then the truckers came in. It was simply insane it was so cool. Then the cops tried to block the truckers. That's when things started to get loud. Every VET was cool, calm and collected despite the BS being put forward by the police. Then a taxi driver got pissed because of the traffic and got out of his car and started fighting with the VETS. I captured all of this. The VETS showed unbelievable restraint.
Then the rally ended. Everyone went over to the Vietnam Wall. But I chose to go home to catch the ladder part of my daughter's birthday party. As I was walking to Amtrak, I saw two buses stuck at the corner led by BIKER escorts. I asked the BIKERS, "What's wrong?" He answered, "They won't let them out." The bus was literally 500 feet from the Memorial and yet to cops would not let the 90 year old men out. They had to be wheeled down the block. It was pathetic and I seriously lost myself. I walked off and cried because I was so angry. God must have made me walk away, because when I went to the side to catch myself I looked up and saw something unreal.
The VETS who were at the Vietnam Wall had grabbed the barricades and started carrying them to the White House. By this time the media had left. So I am there by myself watching a thousand people march to the WH. Many of them younger men carrying barricades.
When they got to the White House they stacked the barricades. It was wild. The police came in. They demanded we move away from the fence. But nobody was doing anything wrong? It was peaceful. However they used force. I was literally right there the entire time. Not 10 feet back, not 20 feet to the side.... RIGHT IN THERE. I had words with one cop who hit me. If FOX doesn't use the video, I will. It has profanity but I was protecting a little boy who was being trampled. LET ME SAY THIS LOUD AND CLEAR... The VETS and the protestors were not violent. They were honest, true, respectful to those around them and NEVER ONCE did anyone lift a hand.
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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As far as the Vets thing... the people who organized it have decried the swine-like Sarah Palin, the sleze Ted Cruz and the downright racist pigs of the Tea Terrorists who hijacked a non-political event and tried to turn it into a violent demonstration.
According to a message on their website (http://1mvetmarch.wordpress.com/), the problem began when a local DC organizer turned the march into a tea party rally, “The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC was not in alignment with our message. We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain. The core principle is about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner.”
While I'm sure it gives you warm fuzzies to rant about "disobeying an unjust law," maybe they should be more worried about the "Moral responsibility" to not exploit the war vets?
If any of the Tea terrorists gave two shits about the vets, they wouldn't be taking away their health care, their food stamps, their mental health care, sending them into war without proper protection, exploiting them for photo ops and wheeling them in front of cameras every chance they got.
This does bring to mind a question , though , since all of Cruz's actions are clearly designed to set the stage for a failed Pres run, can he be deemed a natural born citizen? Being born out of country to mixed nationality parentage?
Canadian by birth place. American by Mother and also Cuban by Father?
from wiki
Selection process
George Washington, the first President of the United States
Eligibility
Main article: Age of candidacy
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the requirements to hold office. A president must:
be a natural-born citizen of the United States;[note 1]
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.
A person who meets the above qualifications is still disqualified from holding the office of president under any of the following conditions:
Under the Twenty-second Amendment, no person can be elected president more than twice. The amendment also specifies that if any eligible person who serves as president or acting president for more than two years of a term for which some other eligible person was elected president, the former can only be elected president once. Scholars disagree whether anyone no longer eligible to be elected president could be elected vice president, pursuant to the qualifications set out under the Twelfth Amendment.[68]
Under Article I, Section 3, Clause 7, upon conviction in impeachment cases, the Senate has the option of disqualifying convicted individuals from holding other federal offices, including the presidency.[69]
Under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, no person who swore an oath to support the Constitution, and later rebelled against the United States, can become president. However, this disqualification can be lifted by a two-thirds vote of each house of Congress.
Leaves open his eligibilty. Whats been said of his father is the he was a cuban immigrant. No mention that I've found of Dad citizenship status either US or Cuban.
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I have one question for you...
Why do you WANT Politicians to be there? So they can photo op and pander their bullshit? Because, that is bascially WHAT POLITICIANS DO... PANDER.
Hail, Hail!!!
"The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC yesterday was not in alignment with our message. We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain.
The core principle was and remains about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner. Our love for and our dedication to remains with Veterans, regardless of party affiliation or political leanings."
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I suppose this was aimed at Sarah Palin, Sen. Ted Cruz and the Tea Party since they were the ones who there who tried to capitalize on the protest for their own political benefit.
My personal feeling... fuck those assholes Palin, Cruz and Tea Party fuck faces. The reason WHY the memorial is shut down is pure, avoidable political drama... nothing else.
Hail, Hail!!!
Taking Moral advise from you seems ....well funny as hell!!!
And that's because... I'm gay? Or because I produce a product used legally by the majority of the people in the country?
Because I'm married to a foreigner?
Have dogs?
Why do you feel morally superior to me, ariel?
Wow you all had to find something bad about this.....I have to say I am very disappointed in there statement they just caused more Americans to be divided by not welcoming all Americans to this event.........
By the way I was just spreading the news......so sorry for posting something so vile as this event :?
Aerial... it was not difficult for me to find 'something bad' about this. It was obvious to me... perhaps, not so obvious to you. So, i will try to point out what i see as 'bad' in this:
The 'Bad' I see is the political opportunists seeking to inject their politics into an apolitical protest ogranized to bring into light the grievences of our military veterans.
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If you belive the opposite as me, that it is a good thing for politicians such as Sen. Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin, as well as the politically motivated Tea Party to exert their political ambitions against the basic message the veterans were trying to project... then, fine... that is your belief.
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So, you see... I do not see the event as vile... what i see as 'vile' is politicians using this protest for their own political and/or personal gain.
From your own words, you lead me to presume that you, on the other hand, see these politician's action in a good light... as 'something good'.
Hail, Hail!!!
Not likely that you will get a straight and/or honest answer to any of your reasonable questions.
After all we know people of her ilk would never support or agree with someone who is gay
Certainly would not be agreeable with someone who works in the porn industry
Definitely does not support gay marriage or foreigners. Even though all Americans descended from foreigners.
She might be okay with you having dogs but probably thinks you have raised gay dogs
Totally not cool, aerial, and definitely not funny.
You want "All Americans" invited. Including the one who told the president to "take your hand off the Quran" and the guy holding the confederate flag. You think that the Tea Terrorists should be able to show up any damn where they please, hijack any non-political event they choose and make it all about them?
Ok.
And if the Occupy Wallstreet crowd had shown up at a War Memorial event and gotten Al Gore and Gloria Steinham to speak, you'd also be saying that they should be "welcoming all Americans?"
Ok, you're not allowed to play the wounded bird when you post information that is just plain wrong and we call you on it. If you're going to post things like this, you should do a bit of research and make sure that what you're saying happened is what REALLY happened. That way, you won't have to suffer the embarrassment of having the rest of us tear everything you post to shreds.
See how that works?
And are you seriously comparing the temporary closing of national monuments and park to institutionalized racism? Am I missing something here?
Don't worry, POD, we've got your back covered. But it's up to you to keep your front covered lest you be deemed immoral.
Sorry, had to do it.
All the information is correct...I have kept up with this since it started....If you get off the liberal sites you cn see what is really happening in this country.......
The Tea Party has taken nothing away from anyone..........where are getting your misinformation?
If Obama can be President anyone can.....no one gets vetted anymore.....
you've sunk to a new level of ignorant.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I was just typing the same.
It should come as no surprise to anyone that the overwhelming majority of the people on this board disagree with Aerial. As well as fully believe that most of what gets posted by Aerial is based on an incredible lack of reliable information and is rooted in hate and ignorance.
Did you miss that?
How they voted to cut $40 billion from food stamps a couple weeks back? Including seniors, poor children and disabled war vets?
Where are YOU getting your information?
Its the dogs ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Can you please elaborate on this one for me, I'm confused. Obama was born in the US, which therefore qualifies him to be president....
Genuinely not sure what you meant, hence the question.
Why you keep posting garbage on here blows my mind. And posting anything "moral" from you is complete bullshit. All you post is hate and lies. I'm surprised no one from your click reaches out to you and tells you how foolish your posts sounds......or maybe you have no one in your click. Or maybe insulting people that are different from you is your thing. Go ahead Areil, keep on embarrassing yourself with this garbage. And keep showing us how low you'll go.
Ok a question. How long do people get to stay on govt assistance? Food stamps/unemployment are supposed to be temporary aids, not a permanent crutch. How do we continue to find them?
Some of these politicians were elected to cut spending, just like with obamacare the people have spoken.