300 lb cop shoots 12 lb dog.
unsung
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unsung
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Cops don't need to be chew things for any size dog. This owner, on parole for something not stated in the article, failed to control its dog and the dog advanced on the officer. The cop's size is irrelevant.
I would have punted the dog, but that's me- I have a little more tolerance than someone (such as this guy) who might have less. I wasn't in the situation so I'm not going to weigh in any more than I already have.
Unsung... I am assuming if you ever need the police you will not be calling them. I mean... you can't use every opportunity to bash them and then, desperate for help, call them can you?
Or "Pansy-ass wussie gun lunatic is also a policeman whose job it is to protect you. Can't even handle a yappy, nellie little dog. Has tiny penis."
If a policeman is such a wuss that a Jack Russel (a totally non-aggressive breed) was enough to make his hair-trigger pull the trigger, do you really want him patrolling your streets? Pulling your teenager over for running a stop sign?
I sure don't.
This comes down to perspective. I know you are a dog owner so I can assume you have a level of tolerance for dogs that might be higher than some other person.
My son was viciously attacked by some loser's dog- hospital for stitches. My wife- a mail carrier- was recently attacked and sent to hospital for stitches by some loser's dog (expressed on this forum). My daughter, no shit, was attacked by a dog on the Labour Day long weekend- no stitches, but traumatized no less.
So... I don't expect all people- cops included- to allow some fucking disgusting animal to sink its teeth into their legs while the retarded owner goes, "Oh, he's fine!" And while dog owners, somewhere else on the planet, say "What a wuss."
My experiences with dog owners leave me with a very poor perception of them. There's a dog that barks relentlessly very near our house. Dog shit all over sidewalks. And, dogs biting people that I love. Say what you want, but if a dog is confronting a police officer as he is dealing with a parolee... that officer is within his right to defend himself. If you wish to risk getting bit while 'shooing' some mutt away from your leg... that is your prerogative.
(and I have no idea where or how, yet again, that beloved small-penis nugget fits in...no pun intended)
Granted, on the surface this seems like an overreaction on the officer's part (not to mention the article, based on its title and how it was written), but who knows what offenses the parolee committed, how dangerous he could be? Did the officer need to be on his guard without that distraction hindering him? Could the owner not have leashed her or put her in another room?
I don't know; strikes me as gun-jumping.
...and ThirtyBills, I really feel for what your family and you have been through. I do get where you're coming from and why.
So what are you saying... get bit and shake the dog off you? Obviously, the cop didn't feel that way. I do agree that it seems excessive, but who am I to say? I wasn't there and I wasn't confronted with the dog. I have already stated that I would have punted it, but this is just me and my likely response. Others might try some dog whispering techniques.
“A little dog like that, you could stomp your feet or kick her out of the way or something, but he just shot her,” said Shelton in a statement. After being shot, Patches fled and hid, eventually succumbing to her wounds. According to Jones’s statement, Patches advanced toward him in a threatening manner even after receiving “multiple verbal commands to get back.”
Shelton is the mother of the son who is on parole (for what I'm not sure?) and the owner of the dog. Even from her statement, it sounds as if she did nothing to control the situation: she says what the cop should have done, but not what she should have done. I know who I blame for this incident. I grew up with dogs and I can tell you this: every dog we owned when we called it to our side... it was at our side immediately. Each of our dogs knew that humans were not to be bitten. We had no problems to speak of... other than a few pairs of shoes getting chewed.
Thanks.
I speak strongly about it, but the truth is I used to love dogs. I don't trust them anymore because useless people have done horrific jobs raising animals that they have no business owning.
When the day comes that I retire, I will own a dog or two. I'll have the time to raise them then and they will have the chance to grow into beautiful animals. It irritates me to no end the lack of responsibility that way too many dog owners exercise for a number of reasons and, consequently, the poor dog behaviours people are subjected to because of that.
Again, I do think the cop reacted in a manner I wouldn't have... but I'm saying so from my perspective and from my couch. If the owner had control of her dog, it's almost certain we wouldn't be conversing in this thread. Did anyone else note that it was her son- living at her home- that the officers were checking on? If I could be so bold to suggest, it sounds as if she was irresponsible in other aspects of life as well.
I'm also of the mind that people's treatment of their charges - their examples set as well - are reflected for better or worse; applies to animals, people, whatever/whomever we're caring and responsible for.
Shawshank - maybe he could sue if fired for being that weight? To semi-twist a George Costanza-ism..."we're living in a (litigious) society!"
Damn, sorry to hear that. You definitely have a valid point. I was about 5 and was with my dad visiting a friend. We were outside and I was sitting on a little ledge next to their deck. Hopped down when my dad said it was time to go, and the guys German Shepherd immediately attacked me. He bit down on my leg and his teeth ended up slipping past most of the skin and he latched on to my pant leg. Drug me ALL THE WAY across the yard back to his dog house before they could get to him. I guess he was planning on eating me there.
Anyway, I have dogs, and I warn people because my half husky half bassett (weird combo) is very protective of my kids. She's never bit anyone, but I'm smart enough to keep her put away when strangers are around, because I do believe she would die defending us.
Added note, I agree with you on how nasty some people can be with their dogs and letting them shit everywhere. I live in a fairly well maintained neighborhood now that doesn't seem to put up with that kind of stuff. Hell I even make sure we clean up our yard at the very least every other day.
And regardless, dogs rule and cats always win.
ohhh good,hay no prison rape jokes or small penis or gun jokes
Godfather.
I'll do that when the anti-gun crowd does the same. In the meantime I will continue to post stories about police abuse. It's pretty sad that I'm considered a cop hater when they are the ones supposedly serving and protecting. I know I haven't shot a dog or thrown a 110lb woman into a bench.
Have you tracked down a murderer? Have you come to the aid of a woman being abused by her husband? Have you infiltrated a gang and risked your life undercover?
Post your stories, but I'm thinking you are the only one that doesn't understand these stories are oddities in a sea of better and more noble stories. Cops do an extremely tough job that I'm pretty sure you are incapable of doing yourself.
Again, my stepfather was a sergeant and my ex-girlfriend was a patrol officer. I've been around it my entire life. Yeah there are good ones, most are, but the bad ones and the things that they do deserve special attention.
Jury's still out on the first comment.
As for your second comment... fair enough. Most are good ones and the bad ones do deserve special attention. But your 'coverage' is so slanted that it is really tough to tell whether or not you appreciate what they do on a daily basis.
I have as good a reason to dislike cops as anyone. I've been detained twice by cops for no reason I can think of other than that at the time my hair was half way down my back. I was roughed up by a cop for being in the passenger seat of an intoxicated driver's car (sure , I should have stayed instead of rode but still, it was undo force being cuffed such that my hands were numb and I had a few bruises the next day). And a cop I knew once played a tape for me of him an some other cops beating up prison inmates. That was a fuckin' hoot and a half (and also the last time I ever cared to see that dude).
But I've also know really good cops who have done extraordinarily great things. I just don't throw them all in the same boat. But I'm sure I've made this point before so I'll leave you to your negative cop posts. Each to his own.
Does every bad cop deserve to have his/her story told when they do bad things so that hopefully others won't? Yes.
My guess is you've had few occasions in which you had to make that choice.
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Godfather.
Good show, GF.
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Hmm, perspective. There are plenty of ways to stop a 12lb dog from biting you that are NOT FATAL to the dog. A shove or kick with the foot. The dog approached the guy (on his own ground) and was barking. Not biting or lunging, just barking. That's normal dog behavior. If it were my dog, I'd be suing that guy, and I'm not normally sue-happy. Actually I'd probably be bailing my husband out of jail, after he attacked the bastard. I once had a cop come to my back gate after the alarm went off and the alarm company forgot to call them off. He walked in right past my two barking dogs, neither of which bit him, of course. If he came in my yard and shot my dogs for barking we would have had a big f'ing problem.
And normal human behaviour is the owner calls the dog to their side instead of letting it persist towards the officer who is checking in on her convict son. The situation escalated to extreme measures for sure, but you're weighing in on how you would have responded. This cop obviously didn't feel the same coming from whatever background he was coming from and dealing with whatever he was dealing with. Remember, the cop repeatedly told the owner to get the dog to back off.
I'm not saying the cop did the right thing, but I am definitely saying the owner carries the brunt of responsibility for this matter. She either raised the dog to ignore her calls or she never called the dog at all. She was a negligent dog owner and her dog is dead because she was.
I wonder what kind of thread might appear if a cop, checking on a parolee, gets distracted by some dog and then shot as he is in the line of duty because he was distracted?
Fair enough, but I think the guy is an asshole, who used extremely excessive force, probably because he likes to shoot his gun. I seriously doubt that he felt threatened by a dog of that size. Have you seen the pictures of it?
And, you know what? Terriers are pretty feisty, and may or may not back off of an intruder on their property, regardless of training. Especially one who the dog probably sensed, and correctly, was a threat.
I haven't seen pictures. As we are both saying, the response was excessive and I'm not trying to shove my position down anyone's throat despite my propensity to jump in and defend this guy. I'm just trying to present an alternative perspective that should, at a minimum, be considered and respected as distasteful and unpopular as it might seem.