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Sooooo, Jesus Christ didn't really exist???

badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
edited October 2013 in A Moving Train
http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm

I dnt know what to believe anymore....
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Whether or not it's true, it's a fascinating hypothesis. I'd love to read more.

    I was always under the impression that Jesus was a real man, but just that...an ordinary man.
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  • sparky_frysparky_fry Posts: 760
    meh, I was more dumbfounded when i found out Santa clause wasn't real. At least he was based on a real person.
  • bluesuedeitzradbluesuedeitzrad Posts: 432
    This was the first thing I thought of – just make it to the 2:19 mark.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFGrQMD6Uqc
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,165
    He's real. He built my hot rod.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played.

    oh, so they would have gotten it, but it took 6000 years for someone else to get it?

    don't have a dog in the fight, don't care if he was real or not, but I find it strange to say that something that is, by the author's own admission, conceptual and poetic in nature is actual proof that something did or did not exist. Where are bill and ted when you need them.

    Very interesting, good find BB, I think that symposium would be fascinating to witness as long as people kept the discussion civil and gave his ideas actual thoughtful criticism.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Jason P wrote:
    He's real. He built my hot rod.


    \m/
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  • THE LOOKTHE LOOK Posts: 324
    Meh...
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,001
    Of course he was real
    and he was Jewish
    how do we know he was Jewish?


    Simple.....


    he lived at home till he was 30
    and his mother thought he was god :lol:











    an oldie but a goodie :D
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Bentleyspop wrote:
    Of course he was real
    and he was Jewish
    how do we know he was Jewish?


    Simple.....


    he lived at home till he was 30
    and his mother thought he was god :lol:











    an oldie but a goodie :D
    :mrgreen:
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,290
    He's real

    I prayed that we would have tacos last night and we did.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    You guys crack me up! Funny ass responses!
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,335
    No way. This dude was real.

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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    then I wonder who has been "speaking" to my brother all these years. :?

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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Gern Blansten wrote:
    He's real

    I prayed that we would have tacos last night and we did.

    How can anyone dispute this? :D
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    Interesting stuff. i'm not sold on the fact that Christ wasn't based on a real person. but if there is actual new evidence i'm more than open to changing my mind
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,638
    sooo I just had a complex then and nothing more? Man what a let down.
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    article wrote:
    Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century
    Jebus, is there anything people won't blame the Jews for?
    article wrote:
    ]but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East
    Well, good, so long as the study's author doesn't have any ulterior motives or agendas...
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    The so-called confession document mentioned in the flashy headline of that article is barely mentioned in the body of the text. I wonder why.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,335
    Covert Messiah sounds like the name of a death metal band.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,001
    JimmyV wrote:
    Covert Messiah sounds like the name of a death metal band.

    I saw Covert Messiah open up for Satans Penis a few years ago












    :lol:
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Bentleyspop wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Covert Messiah sounds like the name of a death metal band.

    I saw Covert Messiah open up for Satans Penis a few years ago












    :lol:


    :lol:
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Duh.



    Oh and that Easter Bunny thing?

    Also fake.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jason P wrote:
    He's real. He built my hot rod.


    he stole my girlfriend too.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,352
    catefrances wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    He's real. He built my hot rod.


    he stole my girlfriend too.

    made me think of this great song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkHG-oKCEU
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    dignin wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    He's real. He built my hot rod.


    he stole my girlfriend too.

    made me think of this great song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkHG-oKCEU


    this is what was in my head

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlCr59LN3U
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    MotoDC wrote:
    article wrote:
    Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century
    Jebus, is there anything people won't blame the Jews for?
    Really man? Is there any comment pertaining to Jews that people won't get offended by? Seriously, I'm surprised no one has called Bentley an anti-semite yet for his joke :lol:
    The comment is that they were constantly rebeling against and fighting the roman empire. That's pretty badass in my books.
    know1 wrote:
    The so-called confession document mentioned in the flashy headline of that article is barely mentioned in the body of the text. I wonder why.
    The document is the same text I've seen referenced here several times in the 'did jesus exist' discussions.
    There is no confession mentioned at all...only this:

    Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that "the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it.'"


    Sooo...a paraphrased quote from the author of the book, on a website that's apparently inteded as a platform for PR releases. So this is an advertisement for some guy tryin to make money, not a news article. Kinda like the associated press, cable news, etc ;)
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,711
    If Jesus doesn't exist then these song/poems I wrote are pointless. Jesus had a split personality. Here we see the beleaguered, martyred Jesus:

    Jesus was More Popular than Guns

    A homeless man stands
    In the dust of a freeway onramp.
    With head bowed and hands folded,
    He thinks to himself
    And prays to his god saying
    It’s time to get out of here.

    The eye as camera pans fast
    Passing on its way to gas or
    Something more delectable.
    There’s no time to stop and think
    About anything as trivial
    As a lost cause.

    Jesus was more popular than guns
    So said the polls, five to one.
    At the feet of Pontius Pilate
    He could have saved himself with
    The arsenal he’d brought along.
    But he saw that Pilot had a dog

    And he belong to the SPCA
    And to the ASPCA
    And the FoA and the IDA
    And he broke bread with PITA
    And turned water into wine with SWAT
    And he knew Pilate's dog might get caught

    In the blaze of cross fire.

    And he hung around a while.

    And the crowd settled down.

    And the sound of marching feet
    Moved in slowly from the west.

    And the Shiny Purple Metallic Armor
    That gave its people no rest
    Put the vote to a test and called

    For a recount of anyone left.
    And the judge sat on his cushion
    And announced the decision was
    Made. “Hear ye, hear ye,
    It is by decree of the jury that hence force
    It shall be recognized that Jesus
    Is no longer more popular than guns!

    And here, the gun toting redneck Jesus:

    Billboard Jesus

    Jesus was a logger-dude
    He worked out in the woods
    Wore flannel shirts with halos ‘round
    The ankles of his boots.


    Jesus was a lager-dude
    Turned water into beer
    When loaves and fishes weren’t enough
    He’d go out and shoot a deer


    Jesus was a lodger, dude,
    He stayed in a motel
    Just down the road from Maggie’s bar
    Where drifters came and went from hell


    Logger Dude
    Logger Dude
    Logger Dude
    Logger Dude
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    badbrains wrote:
    http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm

    I dnt know what to believe anymore....

    Except the mention of Jesus in josephus's book has been shown to be a forgery, so Joesphus himself wasn't concerned with anybody called Jesus at all. Though maybe he knows this already and Atwill's point is just that the New Testament was based largely on the 'Wars of the Jews'.
  • Travels WithTravels With Posts: 609
    sparky_fry wrote:
    meh, I was more dumbfounded when i found out Santa clause wasn't real. At least he was based on a real person.

    WTF! This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Like parents can do all those presents in one night. Anyhow, I read the article...it seems as legit as half the reviews on LB.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    This is a great hypothesis but it is no more self-consistent than most theories of the origins of JC and bible stories.

    If the Romans (or a Roman elite cabal) created Christianity by writing the very stories themselves, why did they then PERSECUTE AND MURDER CHRISTIANS FOR OVER THREE HUNDRED YEARS?

    ???
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