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Are these really the lyrics to Sirens?

Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,875
edited October 2013 in The Porch
I've heard this song 30 times and watched the video numerous times. What I'm reading on multiple sites is: "I always loved you, held you high above too." But I don't hear that or see it. I hear: "I always loved you, of you I am all true". Anyone hear something different
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,875
    I guess the big word I'm hearing is "True" all the lyric sites say "too" but he ain't saying too.
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  • PapPap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,820
    For a moment I thought he says Weld you high above too.

    The lyrics - Do you know them all?
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  • Bennyorr4Bennyorr4 Posts: 307
    yes those are really the lyrics, the other line doesn't make any sense
  • slobberdog68slobberdog68 Posts: 692
    It's either held you high above "too" or "true", listen with headphones :)
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i believe it to be truth ...

    a) it sounds like it
    b) it makes more sense lyrically
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
    I hear "too" but I also have no idea what the hell EV is saying sometimes
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,875
    slobberdog68 wrote:
    It's either held you high above "too" or "true", listen with headphones :)

    I think it is Held you high above true. Thanks for all the input
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,584
    Foriginal Sin wrote:
    slobberdog68 wrote:
    It's either held you high above "too" or "true", listen with headphones :)

    I think it is Held you high above true. Thanks for all the input
    That doesn't really make much sense, does it? :think:
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Foriginal Sin wrote:
    slobberdog68 wrote:
    It's either held you high above "too" or "true", listen with headphones :)

    I think it is Held you high above true. Thanks for all the input
    That doesn't really make much sense, does it? :think:

    it's TRUTH dammit!! ... what's wrong with everyone!?? ... :lol::lol::lol:
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,584
    polaris_x wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Foriginal Sin wrote:

    I think it is Held you high above true. Thanks for all the input
    That doesn't really make much sense, does it? :think:

    it's TRUTH dammit!! ... what's wrong with everyone!?? ... :lol::lol::lol:
    :lol::lol: I'm going with truth as well, since it makes it so it's not a nonsense sentence! :lol:
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    polaris_x wrote:

    it's TRUTH dammit!! ... what's wrong with everyone!?? ... :lol::lol::lol:
    i said i like you already!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • KK171821KK171821 Posts: 65
    too
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,584
    KK171821 wrote:
    too
    That's completely possible. Also makes sense.
    I guess we will probably find out for sure when we get the album and read the lyrics, eh? :D
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    im sure for that part

    ah ah oh oh,ah ah oh oh..
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I don't hear true. definitely don't hear truth. I'm going with held you high above too. it makes more sense than true.
  • Happy JulioHappy Julio Posts: 169
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,584
    Happy Julio wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLd22ha_-VU
    :lol: I love that video - I could watch it a hundred times and still laugh at the part about fries. :lol:
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I don't hear true. definitely don't hear truth. I'm going with held you high above too. it makes more sense than true.

    He's saying I held you high above (and) true. "True" in the sense that he uses in the uke song "You're True." I really don't hear anything else.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,584
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I don't hear true. definitely don't hear truth. I'm going with held you high above too. it makes more sense than true.

    He's saying I held you high above (and) true. "True" in the sense that he uses in the uke song "You're True." I really don't hear anything else.
    Well if he actually says "and" then that makes sense.... does he? :lol:
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  • PapPap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,820
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    im sure for that part

    ah ah oh oh,ah ah oh oh..


    :lol: You nailed it! :lol:
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Sounds like "too" to me. Don't the hear the "-th" that would be there in "truth", live or studio, and "true" makes no sense.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I don't hear true. definitely don't hear truth. I'm going with held you high above too. it makes more sense than true.

    He's saying I held you high above (and) true. "True" in the sense that he uses in the uke song "You're True." I really don't hear anything else.
    Well if he actually says "and" then that makes sense.... does he? :lol:

    I read it as "held you high above (comma) true" like a shorthand or newspaper headline.

    I don't know for sure. But nothing else really makes even that much sense.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,432
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I read it as "held you high above (comma) true" like a shorthand or newspaper headline.

    I don't know for sure. But nothing else really makes even that much sense.

    I think the other 2 option make more sense, especially "too".
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    DewieCox wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I read it as "held you high above (comma) true" like a shorthand or newspaper headline.

    I don't know for sure. But nothing else really makes even that much sense.

    I think the other 2 option make more sense, especially "too".

    Except I definitely hear an "r" and the beginning of the word when Ed sings it, and I don't hear a "th." So in my head, that seems to rule out both too and truth.

    My interpretation has holes too, I'll admit, but it's what I hear, so I have to make it work. I think he just couldn't find a way to fit the "and" in there without losing the song structure, so he went with shorthand: "high above, true."
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,227
    DewieCox wrote:
    Sounds like "too" to me. Don't the hear the "-th" that would be there in "truth", live or studio, and "true" makes no sense.

    I thought it was "true" but now that I really pay attention I think it is "too". I actually think "true" is a better word choice. "Too" is just a meaningless word to make it rhyme when "true" adds something and rhymes.
  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    im sure for that part

    ah ah oh oh,ah ah oh oh..

    Crack me up!!

    I hear "too", meaning also

    I always loved you, held you high above too

    anything like true or truth would diminish love's worthiness in my opinion
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,227
    PureandEasy wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    im sure for that part

    ah ah oh oh,ah ah oh oh..

    Crack me up!!

    I hear "too", meaning also

    I always loved you, held you high above too

    anything like true or truth would diminish love's worthiness in my opinion

    I know it means "also" but I meant it doesn't add anything to the meaning other than rhyming. NOthing wrong with that, but agree with Sleight of Jeff that true would be a good fit.
  • CDFishCDFish Boston, MA Posts: 173
    Just to put in my two cents, I've always heard 'true'...been listening more carefully and I honestly cannot hear 'too'.
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,875
    slightofjeff wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I read it as "held you high above (comma) true" like a shorthand or newspaper headline.

    I don't know for sure. But nothing else really makes even that much sense.

    I think the other 2 option make more sense, especially "too".

    Except I definitely hear an "r" and the beginning of the word when Ed sings it, and I don't hear a "th." So in my head, that seems to rule out both too and truth.

    My interpretation has holes too, I'll admit, but it's what I hear, so I have to make it work. I think he just couldn't find a way to fit the "and" in there without losing the song structure, so he went with shorthand: "high above, true."

    There is definitely an R involved.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,584
    Foriginal Sin wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:

    I think the other 2 option make more sense, especially "too".

    Except I definitely hear an "r" and the beginning of the word when Ed sings it, and I don't hear a "th." So in my head, that seems to rule out both too and truth.

    My interpretation has holes too, I'll admit, but it's what I hear, so I have to make it work. I think he just couldn't find a way to fit the "and" in there without losing the song structure, so he went with shorthand: "high above, true."

    There is definitely an R involved.
    I haven't listened intently, but from what you're all saying, it sounds like it's probably "truth" and EV just isn't pronunciating very clearly, as he is apt to do.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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