Poor Starbuck - Oh the Hypocrisy
puremagic
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You should have known!!!!!! Did you not see the NRA’s handling of Sandy Hook, why the hell do you think they give a shit about the so-called ‘family’ image of your store.
It’s ok for a business owner to tell people they can’t come into their store or won’t be served if
-they wear a Hoodie
-they wear their pants off their ass
-they don’t take off their sunglasses
-they wear a ski or skull cap
People were ok with this because the business owner has a right for him/her and the customers to feel safe in the store.
Here comes Starbuck saying their customers would feel better if they didn’t have to see people sitting around with guns exposed. Of course it becomes an infringement upon their Constitutional right. What happen to the so-called right of the business owner? Oh the Hypocrisy.
It’s ok for a business owner to tell people they can’t come into their store or won’t be served if
-they wear a Hoodie
-they wear their pants off their ass
-they don’t take off their sunglasses
-they wear a ski or skull cap
People were ok with this because the business owner has a right for him/her and the customers to feel safe in the store.
Here comes Starbuck saying their customers would feel better if they didn’t have to see people sitting around with guns exposed. Of course it becomes an infringement upon their Constitutional right. What happen to the so-called right of the business owner? Oh the Hypocrisy.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
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An Open Letter from Howard Schultz, ceo of Starbucks Coffee Company
Tuesday, September 17, 2013
Posted by Howard Schultz, Starbucks chairman, president and chief executive officer
Dear Fellow Americans,
Few topics in America generate a more polarized and emotional debate than guns. In recent months, Starbucks stores and our partners (employees) who work in our stores have been thrust unwillingly into the middle of this debate. That’s why I am writing today with a respectful request that customers no longer bring firearms into our stores or outdoor seating areas.
From the beginning, our vision at Starbucks has been to create a “third place” between home and work where people can come together to enjoy the peace and pleasure of coffee and community. Our values have always centered on building community rather than dividing people, and our stores exist to give every customer a safe and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily life.
We appreciate that there is a highly sensitive balance of rights and responsibilities surrounding America’s gun laws, and we recognize the deep passion for and against the “open carry” laws adopted by many states. (In the United States, “open carry” is the term used for openly carrying a firearm in public.) For years we have listened carefully to input from our customers, partners, community leaders and voices on both sides of this complicated, highly charged issue.
Our company’s longstanding approach to “open carry” has been to follow local laws: we permit it in states where allowed and we prohibit it in states where these laws don’t exist. We have chosen this approach because we believe our store partners should not be put in the uncomfortable position of requiring customers to disarm or leave our stores. We believe that gun policy should be addressed by government and law enforcement—not by Starbucks and our store partners.
Recently, however, we’ve seen the “open carry” debate become increasingly uncivil and, in some cases, even threatening. Pro-gun activists have used our stores as a political stage for media events misleadingly called “Starbucks Appreciation Days” that disingenuously portray Starbucks as a champion of “open carry.” To be clear: we do not want these events in our stores. Some anti-gun activists have also played a role in ratcheting up the rhetoric and friction, including soliciting and confronting our customers and partners.
For these reasons, today we are respectfully requesting that customers no longer bring firearms into our stores or outdoor seating areas—even in states where “open carry” is permitted—unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel.
I would like to clarify two points. First, this is a request and not an outright ban. Why? Because we want to give responsible gun owners the chance to respect our request—and also because enforcing a ban would potentially require our partners to confront armed customers, and that is not a role I am comfortable asking Starbucks partners to take on. Second, we know we cannot satisfy everyone. For those who oppose “open carry,” we believe the legislative and policy-making process is the proper arena for this debate, not our stores. For those who champion “open carry,” please respect that Starbucks stores are places where everyone should feel relaxed and comfortable. The presence of a weapon in our stores is unsettling and upsetting for many of our customers.
I am proud of our country and our heritage of civil discourse and debate. It is in this spirit that we make today’s request. Whatever your view, I encourage you to be responsible and respectful of each other as citizens and neighbors.
Sincerely,
Howard Schultz
Years ago they made a brief announcement that the wouldn't refuse service to people just for bringing a gun into a store where open carry was acceptable.
The gun zealots on both sides of the issue over-read this as though they were being pro-NRA and were celebrating open carry. Then one or two months ago pro-gun zealots organized a national bring-your-gun-to-Starbucks day to celebrate open carry law without Starbucks's consent. Essentially putting words in the company's mouth that they wanted to be a part of the gun issue.
This letter is nothing but PC business speak for two reasons. One to tell whoever organized the bring-your-gun-to-Starbucks day to fuck off and two to tell the public that they want nothing to do with the gun-control issue and that when you come into a Starbucks store it should be for the purpose of getting coffee rather than to show off your gun.
You can make light of my OP, however, the bottom line is
Starbuck said, Please.
The NRA said, Fuck off or else
Starbuck said, Okay, we tried and retreated back behind their espresso machines
I applaud Starbuck’s effort, but don’t deny that the hypocrisy exists.
Fixed?
Either way:
Right are rights. Hurt feelings or bigotry do not trump the rights of an individual.
Eh, I saw someone posting it somewhere else and thought it was funny.
What happened to poor Starbuck?
Did the Cylons get him?
No... they rebotted the series and turned him into a lesbian.
Ruining another of my childhood crushes.
Wasn’t there a posting recently on this forum where a gay couple wanted a bakery to cater their pre-wedding party and the business refused saying they don’t believe in gay marriage? Most posters supported the business owner's right to refuse their service to this couple.
Did that fall under hurt feelings or bigotry; or a subversion of individual rights to a service afforded to other members of the community for which your business is established to provide?
Employees are told to call 911. It's been okay so far.
Only one in my area.
Please tip your baristas.. They don't get paid enough.
You need help. Stop responding to my posts if you can't leave personal attacks out of it. You simply can't deal with someone who doesn't think exactly like you. Have a good day.
the next time someones gayness kills someone, i will give permission to any store to refuse services to gay people. secondly, do stores not have a right to with hold services to people if the choose too.
I wish to put forth the proposition that this post serves as the stupidest post of 2013.
It also reflects the mentality of the gun loving crowd. Unsung is probably one of the most well-versed people in the gun advocate group. Given this fact- as my Baba would bemoan- aye-yay-aye.
If you dont like having your absurd comments called out, stop posting absurd things like "leave your gayness at hime."
Kati Kati, is the most delicious blend of roasted coffee beans I have ever tasted.
It was only made for a limited time. I drank my last cup this morning.
I can't find anymore.
If I had known then what I know now I would have bought mass quantities.
Sorry if I'm off topic.
Not at all. I'd rather talk coffee than guns any day.
The absurd part is you thinking your rights outweigh mine. Rights, are by definition, equal. There are not varying degrees of Rights.
Send me my medal.
In the meantime see my previous.