Climate Change Disinformation Debunked

mickeyrat

duska3419 wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Taking one's own cloth bags is an easy transition, an easy habit to get into. I don't even understand the problem with that one.

as far as i can understand if you don't get plastic bags from the store, you gotta buy garbage bags that come in a box like hefty brand or something. So I dont understand the point of portraying one sort of plastic bag as unnecessary and bad to use when the result is having to waste money on another kind, which is part of an industry which is part of the problem anyway.

also, for clarification, i just mean i dont understand it.

sorry this post has been written pre-coffee.

true, but I think in large part Brians point has been that reduction is the far greater doable solution to whats going on.

So instead of the plastic grocery bags AND the trash bags , the far better is just the trash bags. Unless you can reuse the grocery bags as garbage bags too, like in the bathroom trash or as I do in my semi-truck.


I gotta say, in my city they have finally gotten recyclables to be pick up in a smaller type can that is similar to the larger thrash pick containers on wheels for regular trash. Most in my neighborhood use them. Before it was very small little tubs that citizens had to request and pay for the service. City has worked out a no cost to citizen deal and the results are a vastly reduced quantity of recyclables going into the landfill.

brianlux

I hadn't even thought about trash bags- I was thinking about grocery bags and how strange it is that even today every time I go to the grocery store I see people's groceries going into yet more new plastic or paper bags. The number of bring-your-own-cloth-bag people is growing, but not fast enough. It's so easy to do.

As for trash, I still feel bad on trash day because my wife and I throw away about one cubic foot of trash each week. We take it to the store each week and it, combined with another house hold's trash plus whatever trash the store generates, gets put in one can that is rarely full. The rest goes into recycling and compost. And yet, every week my neighbors up and down the street put out a can that is often full to overflowing or even two. What is all that crap that's going into the landfill? I don't understand.

I don't mean to sound scolding, but here in 2013 I just don't get that.

brianlux

Just on the slim chance that there are any our there who still doubt the reality of global warming, here is an excellent article called:

"What ocean heating reveals about global warming

The heat content of the oceans is growing and growing. That means that the greenhouse effect has not taken a pause and the cold sun is not noticeably slowing global warming."

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=15717%3Cbr

A bit long to post the whole thing here but worth checking out.