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eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
edited October 2013 in The Porch
With Sirens, Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Thoughts?
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  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,936
    :shock: :?
  • Dirty FrankkDirty Frankk Posts: 4,274
    Only time will tell ;)
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,947
    eldarion75 wrote:
    With Sirens, Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

    Thoughts?

    Time is going to tell on that. Even Alive wasn't a flagship anthem when it was first released. :)

    Added: Oh jinx, Dirty Frankk. :P
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Not a chance.
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    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • Digital TwilightDigital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    :lol::lol::lol:
  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    Weren't Given to Fly and I Am Mine bigger anthems than Alive? Or is it just me?
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    the song is a masterpiece in many levels..and yes,has all the power and dynamic to become an anthem..
    no need to be bigger or not of any other song....Alive is something so unique..

    the only thing i know for sure ,is that ,2 days now,fans talking about it nonstop...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    Weren't Given to Fly and I Am Mine bigger anthems than Alive? Or is it just me?
    its just you..lol ;)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    edited September 2013
    Dp
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    edited September 2013
    I think this song is gonna go nuts on radio and with joe public.. the world is about to rob our favourite band off us. And that's cool.
    I reckon Sirens is a huge game changer. And it's importance is topdown band to us and soon to be everyone else.

    There's kids out there right now probably hearing it on a radio going wtf?! That's what I was looking for!!!

    Whole new generation is about to come in. That's amazing. So Alive is looking over its shoulder a bit nervously I reckon:)
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    Weren't Given to Fly and I Am Mine bigger anthems than Alive? Or is it just me?
    its just you..lol ;)

    Hey I'm okay with that, lol
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Oh dear lord.... :fp:

    No fucking way...Alive has it all. The riff, the lyrics, the monster chorus, amazing solo. The best they can hope for with Sirens is maybe a single that charts well.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    this is such a thought provoking subject that it should be moved to AMT. I think this is gonna get ugly!!
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    DewieCox wrote:
    Oh dear lord.... :fp:

    No fucking way...Alive has it all. The riff, the lyrics, the monster chorus, amazing solo. The best they can hope for with Sirens is maybe a single that charts well.


    So sure you are?

    You're only on your third spin of Sirens, I can tell:)
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    this is such a thought provoking subject that it should be moved to AMT. I think this is gonna get ugly!!


    Please no. Last time I encountered anyone from that forum I ended up getting some really frightening unprovoked unpleasant PMs from some scary monster from the deep.
    I'd rather not go through that again. Thanks.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    this is such a thought provoking subject that it should be moved to AMT. I think this is gonna get ugly!!
    lol
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,518
    Jesus. The love and hate for this song is pathetic. You people act like Eddie is the first person in history to write lyrics about has family and their significance. Reality people.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    eldarion75 wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    this is such a thought provoking subject that it should be moved to AMT. I think this is gonna get ugly!!


    Please no. Last time I encountered anyone from that forum I ended up getting some really frightening unprovoked unpleasant PMs from some scary monster from the deep.
    I'd rather not go through that again. Thanks.
    :lol::lol:
    I hope it wasn't me!
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    So do I :shock:
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    ofthegirl99 wrote:
    Jesus. The love and hate for this song is pathetic. You people act like Eddie is the first person in history to write lyrics about has family and their significance. Reality people.


    While I've never had a single favourite Pj sing in my 20 year tenure, I can honestly say Sirens has moved in and is sitting comfortably on that heretofore empty throne.

    It's an amazing song.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,432
    eldarion75 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Oh dear lord.... :fp:

    No fucking way...Alive has it all. The riff, the lyrics, the monster chorus, amazing solo. The best they can hope for with Sirens is maybe a single that charts well.


    So sure you are?

    You're only on your third spin of Sirens, I can tell:)

    I've actually listened to it quite and I think it's alright, but Alive is one of the greatest anthems in rock history. I think it's pretty presumptuous to say that a songmthat's a day old, and isn't really that anthemic, is gonna top it.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,030
    sirens is a great song and will continue to grow on me as I listen to it more and see it live in a few weeks. For sirens to be on the level of alive is has to endure a few tours and mature to an amazing live experience. There is no such thing as a bad live version of alive...well except: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ne0n8PLMg lol...aaaah san sebastian...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,749
    I think it's a nice song...but quite frankly the extreme love of the song surprises me more than the extreme hate for the song.
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  • mk5877mk5877 Posts: 13
    edited September 2013
    I just read someone praise this song as a "game changer" - i couldn't think of a better way to describe this song, only not in a good way. The game was definitely changed for me when i heard Sirens, only i will chalk this up as a bad play, rather than losing complete hope in my team.
    :fp:
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Sirens is another exable in life that happens with all,huge-great things..

    people love them,or love to hate them..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    (En)trenchment.. Hoggishness.. The Pj long timers are not for turning:)

    I'm kidding. I see what you're saying.

    My point was I can see this being a huge big important anthem for a whole new generation of younger folks probably hearing this on the radio, while their dad, an established Pj fan, is hating it,
    And they're loving it cos he hates it haha

    It's gotta be happening somewhere :)
  • SJHalpSJHalp Posts: 37
    I don't really see this song doing well on any chart
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    SJHalp wrote:
    I don't really see this song doing well on any chart


    Maybe. Ever find that when you don't like something, it's everywhere?

    This could be it for you:)
    It's such a great song but I've never seen a Pj song polarise the fans like this.
    Blizzard of bizarre
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    I don't see it doing well in the mainstream radio business. I think it may turn a few heads like "Pearl Jam? when did they write a pop ballad for Top 40 radio?", but it's not going to be any game changer like November Rain or anything for GNR.

    it will be #5 for a few weeks then fall off and everyone will forget about it.

    I hope to.
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  • kb272930kb272930 Posts: 62
    I just always turn to Pearl Jam as a mood lifter and this song although beautiful is a little depressing .It's also in my opinion tries too hard to be big and epic . Just cant see it becoming a PJ anthem in the same way Alive is ..
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