Hell on earth in Syria..*graphic footage*

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
edited September 2013 in A Moving Train
anyone hear about this??

this is just terrible.

war is the worst thing in the world...it is cruelty. and nothing more. these are CHILDREN for god's sake.

:cry:

disclaimer- do NOT watch the video on the link if you do not want to see footage of badly burned childen..

Doctor: Napalm-like attack on Syrian schoolkids was 'apocalyptic'

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... yptic?lite

Children in the Syrian province of Aleppo earlier this week suffered napalm-like burns after an incendiary agent was dropped on their school by what rebels say was a government jet. At least 10 people were killed, and dozens more were injured.

A humanitarian doctor who treated the children after the Monday incident described the scene as "apocalyptic."
"As they all started to arrive, it felt like I was living a horror film," said the volunteer doctor, who asked only to be identified by her first name, Roula. "As they were coming in, because of their burns, they were radiating so much heat. The hospital got so, so hot."

Roula said her first thought after seeing the "petrified" children covered in unidentified white matter was that there had been another chemical attack — something she and others have feared ever since an Aug. 21 massacre in Damascus was determined by the U.S. and other nations to have involved chemical weapons.

"We didn't actually have much information at the beginning. All we knew was that these severely burnt children were all coming in in droves," she said. Those who survived have burns on 50 percent to 80 percent of their bodies.

It's still unclear what agent was used in Monday's attack, although Syrian rebels say the regime dropped a chemical agent of some sort. A BBC team filming inside Syria captured disturbing video images of the aftermath of the incident showing shaking children pleading for help as their skin burned.

A girl who witnessed the attack told NBC News' Richard Engel that the plane attacked the school twice.
"As we were going inside the classroom, it hit again. I didn't hear anything. We just saw people burning," said the student, who was not identified. "My classmates were burning. It felt like Judgment Day."

The patients were not limited to schoolchildren, according to Roula, speaking to NBC News from London days after the attack. The first case she received was a 7-month-old brought in by his father. The infant was covered in full-body burns, and his dad had head burns.

"He described that a missile had hit his home," Roula said. "At that point, I thought it was an isolated case, and literally two minutes later, we received five more cases, and within 10 minutes, we had 15, and then a few minutes later, we had 30."

The attack happened late in the afternoon, she said, when the children were finishing up their school day.
One victim in particular — a 16-year-old girl — stood out.

"She took a deep breath and asked me, 'Do you think my face is going to be mutilated?' I said, 'I don't know. I hope not.' She said:'All I was trying to do was study for my exams. I was just trying to do my baccalaureate because I want to be like you. I want to be a doctor.'"
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  • PapPap Posts: 29,000
    The attack happened late in the afternoon, she said, when the children were finishing up their school day. One victim in particular — a 16-year-old girl — stood out.

    "She took a deep breath and asked me, 'Do you think my face is going to be mutilated?' I said, 'I don't know. I hope not.' She said:'All I was trying to do was study for my exams. I was just trying to do my baccalaureate because I want to be like you. I want to be a doctor.'"

    :cry:

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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    and multiple abled countries should sit idly by twiddling their thumbs
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    i say war is very terrible but not the worst thing in the world. child molestation is in my opinion the worst thing in the world followed up by rape onto women
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Talking of everyone's outrage over chemical warfare...didn't the U.S saturate Vietnam with agent orange and drop napalm on towns and villages?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Funny, but I was just reading something about Orwell's 'Two minute hate' from 1984, and watching this news story reminded me of it. The U.S government is clearly 100% dead set on attacking Syria, as it's attack was planned months, if not years ago. After the British government rejected the U.S's pleas to help them in their latest round of state terror, they resort to news articles like the one above to inspire hatred and outrage amongst the U.S populace.

    The U.S needs war. it's economy and prosperity depends on it. Which is why 9/11 was the best thing that could have happened to those in power in America. It was like 2 Christmases rolled into one for them, and they're still milking it 12 years later.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate
    '...the purpose of the Hate is said to satisfy the citizens' subdued feelings of angst and hatred from leading such a wretched, controlled existence. By re-directing these subconscious feelings away from the Oceanian government and toward external enemies (which likely do not even exist), the Party minimizes subversive thought and behavior.'
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Talking of everyone's outrage over chemical warfare...didn't the U.S saturate Vietnam with agent orange and drop napalm on towns and villages?
    Yes, and then we were ran out of that country.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Some more on Orwell's ''Two Minutes Hate':

    http://uroboros73.wordpress.com/2012/05 ... s-of-fear/

    Orwell’s Two Minutes Hate: Terror Management and the Politics of Fear

    The opening chapter of Orwell’s dystopian nightmare Nineteen Eighty-four centers around the “Two Minutes Hate.” Winston Smith, the novel’s protagonist, describes pulling up a chair in front of the big telescreen, taking a seat among his Ministry of Truth co-workers, and participating in a ritual designed to reinforce party orthodoxy, Oceania’s version of Must-See-TV.

    What follows is a wild display of enmity, precisely channeled and orchestrated by Ingsoc, the totalitarian rulers of Oceania. The chorus of hissing, squeaking, and screaming is focused on Goldstein, the ultimate enemy of the state, “the self-satisfied sheeplike face” that automatically “produced anger and fear” in everybody. Why? Goldstein stands for everything Ingsoc reviles. He demands peace and advocates “freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of assembly, freedom of thought.”

    The Hate celebrates Ingsoc’s slogans—WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH—and helps stamp out thoughtcrime, i.e. the right to hold personal, unorthodox beliefs and value privacy, the very thing Winston secretly lives for. He’s actually a big fan of Goldstein. But even this devout intellectual heretic feels powerless to the overwhelming wave of emotion that ripples though the crowd and makes otherwise reserved and terse people start “leaping up and down…and shouting at the tops of their voices.” Take a look at a cinematic interpretation of this.

    The most horrific thing, Winston says, isn’t simply that he feels obliged to go along with it. It’s that even a true thoughtcriminal like himself finds it “impossible to avoid joining” the “hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledgehammer.” Winston helplessly watches as his secret loathing for Big Brother, the face of the Party, becomes, for a brief, but terrifying moment, true adoration. This foreshadows the fate of his desperate revolt. In the end, Winston’s rebellion fails. He is destined to love Big Brother. The Two Minutes Hate gives us a disturbing glimpse into the psychological, and indeed physiological, means by which totalitarian control is possible. Orwell takes the reader right to the intersection of nature and nurture, where political propaganda sets its scalpel and goes to work, ‘healing’ us through the power of ‘proper’ beliefs—the pseudo-salvation of mind and body that comes from loving and hating the ‘right’ faces. Being an accepted member of your tribe, Orwell argues, is invariably linked to being fervently hostile towards the other tribe.

    In this way, Orwell’s diagnosis of totalitarian tactics prefigures a recent breakthrough in social psychology called Terror Management Theory (TMT). The idea is rooted in anthropologist Ernest Becker’s seminal work The Denial Death, which proposed that all human behavior is instinctively shaped and influenced by the fear of death. Whether we realize it or not, our ‘mortality anxiety’—a quality that appears to be unique to our species—is such a potent and potentially debilitating force, we have to repress and distract ourselves from it. But as Freud says, the repressed always returns, slipping into our conscious minds and affecting our behavior in lots of weird ways. This anxiety, according to Becker, feeds back into our psyche and influences everything we think and do. Our social practices and institutions—from politics to religion to art—are systematic attempts to explain away and allay this fear, which is why we can lash out so viciously at those who seem to threaten or undermine our beliefs. We can’t let their existence weaken our psychological armor against the ultimate enemy, Death itself.

    Researchers Sheldon Solomon and Jeff Greenberg decided to put Becker’s hypothesis to the test by devising clever psychological experiments to isolate and measure the anxiety factor. Time and time again, they found that when people were made to think about their own death, they reacted in a more hostile way to those who were perceived as an ideological other than they did when they were not asked to contemplate it. You can check out these weird but illuminating experiments here.

    Terror Management Theory (TMT) can explain everything from the bloody sacrificial rites carried out by the Aztecs to the sudden and unquestioning support Pres. Bush received from many liberals after 9/11, people who on September 10th didn’t even think he’d legitimately won the office. The theory helps us grasp not only the irrational, cult-like power of charismatic leaders and the effectiveness of negative political ads, it presupposes a neurological basis for our susceptibility to the Love/Hate style of propaganda—how it taps into the way we’re wired and re-routes the circuitry so we become unwitting puppets to elitist agendas that don’t actually serve our interests. We become mouthpieces and pumping fists for the very forces that oppress us. In other words, you are not in control of your own beliefs and behavior, Big Brother has already gotten to your amygdala—the brain’s subcortical fear factory—and told you what to love and what to hate, the faces worth admiring and the faces that need to be smashed with a sledgehammer…or with a prejudicial slur or with a cruise missile.

    Orwell may not have grasped the neurology (he predates the f-MRI technology that allows us to see the amygdala in action), but he certainly understood the psycho-dynamics of TMT, fifty years before it was empirically verified by Solomon and Sheldon. The hate, Winston explains, flows through the group “like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic.” And yet, since its a primitive instinct which has been manipulated by social conditioning, this hate is “an abstract undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another,” like a flashlight. In other words, we love and/or hate by nature, but the particular objects of our adoration and enmity are learned. The question is, have you learned how to consciously control this dynamic? Or has Big Brother already beat you to the punch?

    Tragically, Winston can’t choose who to love and who to hate, and this, Orwell implies, is the ultimate agenda of an effective totalitarian state, one of its defining properties and ultimately its most fundamental power. Nineteen Eighty-four‘s dystopian vision—unrelentingly bleak and terrifying—still resonates because the kind of manipulation it describes hasn’t gone away with fall of the Soviet Union. Its machinations have just grown more subtle and are all the more powerful and hideous for it.

    Orwell’s novel reminds us to step back from the histrionic media frenzies that pass for political discourse these days, take a rational breath, and ask ourselves: am I really in control of what I believe? Or am I motivated by fears I’m not even aware of? When I step into the booth and cast my ballot, am I making a conscious choice or has Big Brother already pushed the button for me?

    Remember, Hitler initially gained power through the democratic process, which he then systematically dismantled. Do we really want to be free and rules ourselves or is there, as Freud argued in Group Psychology and the Analysis of the Ego (1922) something deep within in that longs to be subjugated and dominated? Do you secretly like it when Big Brother mashes his political finger against your limbic button?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,055
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Talking of everyone's outrage over chemical warfare...didn't the U.S saturate Vietnam with agent orange and drop napalm on towns and villages?

    Yes, we did, and it's horrible. I know someone who is dying from agent orange exposure in Vietnam. We was an American soldier there. And of course the villagers there got it worse.

    So many of us are tired of hearing about war but it goes on... and on... :(
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  • PapPap Posts: 29,000
    Byrnzie wrote:
    '...the purpose of the Hate is said to satisfy the citizens' subdued feelings of angst and hatred from leading such a wretched, controlled existence. By re-directing these subconscious feelings away from the Oceanian government and toward external enemies (which likely do not even exist), the Party minimizes subversive thought and behavior.'


    I finished reading this book a couple of weeks ago and I have to admit that it has so stood the test of time. Everything Orwell described back in 1949 (the year the book was released) is so very true. Unfortunately... :think:
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Talking of everyone's outrage over chemical warfare...didn't the U.S saturate Vietnam with agent orange and drop napalm on towns and villages?

    Everything is about the fucking US. Jesus Christ, we get it.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Talking of everyone's outrage over chemical warfare...didn't the U.S saturate Vietnam with agent orange and drop napalm on towns and villages?

    Everything is about the fucking US. Jesus Christ, we get it.

    Am I still annoying you? Good. Keep reminding me that I'm doing something right.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Talking of everyone's outrage over chemical warfare...didn't the U.S saturate Vietnam with agent orange and drop napalm on towns and villages?

    Don't even have to go that far back byrnzie. How about when Israel dropped white phosphorous on the children and women in Palestine. That wasn't even 5 years ago. I didn't see our leaders beating the war drums then. Hypocrisy at its finest.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    badbrains wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Talking of everyone's outrage over chemical warfare...didn't the U.S saturate Vietnam with agent orange and drop napalm on towns and villages?

    Don't even have to go that far back byrnzie. How about when Israel dropped white phosphorous on the children and women in Palestine. That wasn't even 5 years ago. I didn't see our leaders beating the war drums then. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    True. And those phosphorous bombs were supplied to Israel by the U.S.
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