Limits of power.

chadwick

i am fascinated by the fbi/cia & these kinds of folks that turn gears behind the scenes. pretty gnarly fucking bullshit going on that will not ever be known. for example: the produce stocker at the grocery store could very well be a hitman for the government's dark shady agencies. the president would not know who this person is.

if you believe the president knows all & controls all, you are sadly mistaken

chadwick

yes, the store i frequent has a x navy seal now in calmness & in a meditative super duper chilled relaxational state of mind, body & soul. he sells me bananas & spinach so that i may grow healthier & maybe someday he will reach out & bring me into his circle of international badassness where we will team up together gabbing knives into the necks of monsters then vanish into the night

back to work monday morning stocking produce with a calm heart beat w/ blood pressure 120/80

thank you

mikepegg44

brianlux wrote:

chadwick wrote:

then we must stop voting, reboot the system, then get decent leaders
sounds so very simple & actually makes sense to me
420 trillion americans disagree & will be voting gw number III

We surely need to reboot the system. I would like to see more of an emphasis put on decision making by committee. Why all the focus on one person? It makes more sense to have a committee of people committed to making the best decisions about important matters. But maybe I'm just too idealistic.

No gov't decision is made without a committee. What kind of pens they buy go through an approval process...

The president is given power by law. Whether secret groups have some sort of say as implied by hicks (one of my favorites by the way) is irrelevant because by law the president CAN make a difference and has a lot of power.

They, including Obama, choose NOT to make major changes for whatever reason they have...Presidential support for Gay marriage is a huge thing, so would be eliminating support for Israel in the UN. One was relatively easy to do, the other is hard...he chose the easy way out unless he truly believes that the Palestinian people are getting what they deserve and are being treated justly.

Campaign promises are empty. This could be the reason why Presidents seemingly all change and gives rise to a conspiracy like you talk about Brian, They make promises they have no ability or the intention of keeping making it seem like they were this idealistic super human who was beaten into submission. it could have been that the speech where they make promises was written by someone else for effect and not the true feelings of the candidate.

They lie, that is why I supported a guy like Paul Wellstone, I didn't agree with all his politics, but he said what he did. And people like him are more important to get into and keep in office than a guy who pretends to agree with you every 4 years.

backseatLover12

mikepegg44 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

CH156378 wrote:

Every morning I wake up and thank god that Mitt Romney or John Mcain were not elected.

agreed.

If what Brian says is true, that one man doesn't have the power some attribute to him, why would it have mattered?

If what Brian says isn't true, and that one man does have an incredible amount of power, how much of what has happened around the world the last few years can be blamed on President Obama?

The president has the power to do a lot of things, this president, like many others, chose not to do something different on a lot of things I honestly thought he would. Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden, drone strike policies, Guantanamo bay, he could have done many things differently but didn't

Much of what he wants to do gets shot down by the GOP.

Obama is nothing but a scapegoat. At the same time, even if he did want to make change, that change can not get done when Congress refuses to compromise and act like adults.

backseatLover12

brianlux wrote:

chadwick wrote:

then we must stop voting, reboot the system, then get decent leaders
sounds so very simple & actually makes sense to me
420 trillion americans disagree & will be voting gw number III

We surely need to reboot the system. I would like to see more of an emphasis put on decision making by committee. Why all the focus on one person? It makes more sense to have a committee of people committed to making the best decisions about important matters. But maybe I'm just too idealistic.

Congress? :fp:

ajedigecko

Bentleyspop wrote:

...as it was stated frequently while Bush lead.

Who :?:

I do not recall exact forum names. It would be nice to have that ability and strength of remembrance.

I do recall the pattern. Bush's fault and that pattern continued into the fifth year of obama admin.

ajedigecko

The reason congress can survive with such low numbers.

...their constituents approve of their performance.

And we keep voting the same people in.





One

Bentleyspop

ajedigecko wrote:

The reason congress can survive with such low numbers.

...their constituents approve of their performance.

And we keep voting the same people in.





One

If PRO is the opposite of CON

Then PROGRESS must be the opposite of CONGRESS!!












:shock:

ajedigecko

...they are proficient at lying -in order to complete the election process.

I would like to know how many congress people uphold 70% of their platform?





One line wonder

mikepegg44

backseatLover12 wrote:

Much of what he wants to do gets shot down by the GOP.

Obama is nothing but a scapegoat. At the same time, even if he did want to make change, that change can not get done when Congress refuses to compromise and act like adults.

Well he is a president not a king.

Through executive orders and executive direction he can make a lot of change, he has let me down in many areas.

ajedigecko

mikepegg44 wrote:

backseatLover12 wrote:

Much of what he wants to do gets shot down by the GOP.

Obama is nothing but a scapegoat. At the same time, even if he did want to make change, that change can not get done when Congress refuses to compromise and act like adults.

Well he is a president not a king.

Through executive orders and executive direction he can make a lot of change, he has let me down in many areas.

If i remember correctly...he had the house and senate for the first two years. Much power to accomplish said policies at the time.




Borracho station

backseatLover12

mikepegg44 wrote:

backseatLover12 wrote:

Much of what he wants to do gets shot down by the GOP.

Obama is nothing but a scapegoat. At the same time, even if he did want to make change, that change can not get done when Congress refuses to compromise and act like adults.

Well he is a president not a king.

Through executive orders and executive direction he can make a lot of change, he has let me down in many areas.

Continuing to think that it's all one man's doing will get you and the rest of the country nowhere. It's the system. That's how the system works. You want change? Don't vote another scapegoat in, work to change the entire system. But that's too much work...

I am convinced that rather than accept this truth, people would rather point fingers at the scapegoat. That's LAZINESS.

mikepegg44

backseatLover12 wrote:

Continuing to think that it's all one man's doing will get you and the rest of the country nowhere. It's the system. That's how the system works. You want change? Don't vote another scapegoat in, work to change the entire system. But that's too much work...

I am convinced that rather than accept this truth, people would rather point fingers at the scapegoat. That's LAZINESS.

First question is, are we having the same argument? at what point did I scapegoat anyone? Seriously, I would like to know because I re-read my posts and I don't believe I did at any point. When did I say it is all one man's fault? what would that even mean.

Did you read the entirety of my posts in this thread? or are you assuming you are arguing with a card carrying GOP wonk who is a Hannity fan and only watches fox news and thinks Obama is a Kenyan socialist?

If I jumped on you I apologize but I am confused as to what we are disagreeing about I think.

chadwick

http://youtu.be/uGs_Qn5yEgs
alan grayson... hero

these are some reasons the us is failing & falling apart

ben bernanke... scumbag

backseatLover12

mikepegg44 wrote:

backseatLover12 wrote:

Continuing to think that it's all one man's doing will get you and the rest of the country nowhere. It's the system. That's how the system works. You want change? Don't vote another scapegoat in, work to change the entire system. But that's too much work...

I am convinced that rather than accept this truth, people would rather point fingers at the scapegoat. That's LAZINESS.

First question is, are we having the same argument? at what point did I scapegoat anyone? Seriously, I would like to know because I re-read my posts and I don't believe I did at any point. When did I say it is all one man's fault? what would that even mean.

Did you read the entirety of my posts in this thread? or are you assuming you are arguing with a card carrying GOP wonk who is a Hannity fan and only watches fox news and thinks Obama is a Kenyan socialist?

If I jumped on you I apologize but I am confused as to what we are disagreeing about I think.

You said:

he has let me down in many areas.

And I mean nothing personal to you or anyone else, but if one blames Obama for the job gov't is doing, they are pointing fingers at the scapegoat, not the real problem. That's all!