racism row

guypjfreak

ive just seen opera saying about how a shop assistant wouldnt sell her a bag cos she was black [coloured]and then a lady on the BBC news saying the same about how she walks into a shop and the security guard looks at her different and that it makes her and people like her [coloured] feel discriminated and it got me thinking ..

now i have black [coloured] friends and they are top of the range BUT when ever I go into a shop over here the security guards are coloured if i got into town the bouncers are coloured if i got to festivals the security are coloured and mostly in citys the youngsters are coloured ...[ ALL OF THESE ARE MOSTLY ok ] but heres the thing
A ..why is this so i mean are coloured people more scary ........not really
B..when i go to festis the security can and has been well over the top ie menacing in your face and at times dam right violent WHY
C.. nearly ever shop security guard over here [ dont know about over the pond ] is coloured
my point being are we white [uncoloured] people
A ..not good enough to do these jobs cos were not intimidating enough
B ..are we in turn not being discriminated against ....cos i for one do feel intimidated when a coloured security/bouncer is checking me out when walking around a shop or at festivals ..

im not being racist just looking at it from a different stand point .....

Snakeduck

Please report to HR for sensitivity training.

jackrabbit slim

what about the asian [yellow] people? i'm afraid of their judo chops and ninja tricks

Snakeduck

And do Mexicans really need hats that big? Like I don't realize they are hiding weapons and drugs in those sombreros...

BinauralJam

Snakeduck wrote:

And do Mexicans really need hats that big? Like I don't realize they are hiding weapons and drugs in those sombreros...

EdsonNascimento

I have no idea what you said. Not even sure it was English.

But, yes. Stupid and ignorant people tend to be more racist. I can't tell if you are or not b/c I can't understand a thing you said.

Was that your question?

SatansFuton

I don't know how things work in Dorset, England. But if you ever come over to the States you're going to want to avoid calling them "coloured".

Go Beavers

SatansFuton wrote:

I don't know how things work in Dorset, England. But if you ever come over to the States you're going to want to avoid calling them "coloured".

I was thinking the same thing. People find the "u" really offensive.

JonnyPistachio

I dont like the opera either.

Who Princess

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I dont like the opera either.

Her talk show is very popular tho.

BinauralJam

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I dont like the opera either.

:shock: What!?!? Check This Out, may change your mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qk3dESfyfg

forward to 1:49

JonnyPistachio

Who Princess wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I dont like the opera either.

Her talk show is very popular tho.

the opera?

Who Princess

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I dont like the opera either.

Her talk show is very popular tho.

the opera?

THANK YOU!

I am STILL laughing!

JonnyPistachio

PJ_Soul

EdsonNascimento wrote:

I have no idea what you said. Not even sure it was English.

But, yes. Stupid and ignorant people tend to be more racist. I can't tell if you are or not b/c I can't understand a thing you said.

Was that your question?

+1

guypjfreak

PJ_Soul wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

I have no idea what you said. Not even sure it was English.

But, yes. Stupid and ignorant people tend to be more racist. I can't tell if you are or not b/c I can't understand a thing you said.

Was that your question?

+1

i did reply to this earlier but must have not pressed submit ............needless to say no im no racist sorry you cant understand my point but hey ho all im saying is hopefully the blacks wont thing that discrimination is still as wide spread as theses incidents on tv portray ....

and SatansFuton wot do YOU call a black man over we dont call them black we say coloured which in my deepest Dorset way seems more respectful

PJ_Soul

guypjfreak wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

I have no idea what you said. Not even sure it was English.

But, yes. Stupid and ignorant people tend to be more racist. I can't tell if you are or not b/c I can't understand a thing you said.

Was that your question?

+1

i did reply to this earlier but must have not pressed submit ............needless to say no im no racist sorry you cant understand my point but hey ho all im saying is hopefully the blacks wont thing that discrimination is still as wide spread as theses incidents on tv portray ....

and SatansFuton wot do YOU call a black man over we dont call them black we say coloured which in my deepest Dorset way seems more respectful

The "coloured" thing was pretty surprising... That's considered really racist in North America, and I have trouble believing it's not considered racist by people where you're from too. I've been to England, and I'm quite sure that is not the acceptable term.

MotoDC

Go Beavers wrote:

SatansFuton wrote:

I don't know how things work in Dorset, England. But if you ever come over to the States you're going to want to avoid calling them "coloured".

I was thinking the same thing. People find the "u" really offensive.

Regarding the actual terminology, it's all so manufactured and arbitrary. Once it was negroes, then it was colored people, then it was african-americans, then it was blacks. Blacks and african-americans are the accepted terms now (in the US), though like anything, context is important. It's certainly not something to get all worked up about. Frankly, now that I think about it more, although no one would get offended by "african-american", alot of people would look at you funny.

Unfortunate that we have to bucket people in any case, but it's just human nature (evolution, baby) to categorize (people, things, concepts, whatever) in order to be able to get through a day and make any kind of decision in this complex world.

PJ_Soul

MotoDC wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

SatansFuton wrote:

I don't know how things work in Dorset, England. But if you ever come over to the States you're going to want to avoid calling them "coloured".

I was thinking the same thing. People find the "u" really offensive.

Regarding the actual terminology, it's all so manufactured and arbitrary. Once it was negroes, then it was colored people, then it was african-americans, then it was blacks. Blacks and african-americans are the accepted terms now (in the US), though like anything, context is important. It's certainly not something to get all worked up about. Frankly, now that I think about it more, although no one would get offended by "african-american", alot of people would look at you funny.

Unfortunate that we have to bucket people in any case, but it's just human nature (evolution, baby) to categorize (people, things, concepts, whatever) in order to be able to get through a day and make any kind of decision in this complex world.

And once it was Niggers. Then there were Chinks. Chugs. Spics. Kikes..... At some point all of these terms were considered acceptable by the ruling majority. There is a reason why what's acceptable has evolved. There are a lot of people who DO find outdated racist terms very offensive, and not at all for manufactured or arbitrary reasons. The reasons are pretty specific and sound. So people probably should be called out when they are using racially offensive terms.

MotoDC

PJ_Soul wrote:

MotoDC wrote:

Regarding the actual terminology, it's all so manufactured and arbitrary. Once it was negroes, then it was colored people, then it was african-americans, then it was blacks. Blacks and african-americans are the accepted terms now (in the US), though like anything, context is important. It's certainly not something to get all worked up about. Frankly, now that I think about it more, although no one would get offended by "african-american", alot of people would look at you funny.

Unfortunate that we have to bucket people in any case, but it's just human nature (evolution, baby) to categorize (people, things, concepts, whatever) in order to be able to get through a day and make any kind of decision in this complex world.

And once it was Niggers. Then there were Chinks. Chugs. Spics. Kikes..... At some point all of these terms were considered acceptable by the ruling majority. There is a reason why what's acceptable has evolved. There are a lot of people who DO find outdated racist terms very offensive, and not at all for manufactured or arbitrary reasons. The reasons are pretty specific and sound. So people probably should be called out when they are using racially offensive terms.

Sorry, I don't accept that the n-slur (or any of the other examples you provided) is equivalent in intent or offensiveness to the other terminology that I provided. Apples and oranges.

PJ_Soul

MotoDC wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

MotoDC wrote:

Regarding the actual terminology, it's all so manufactured and arbitrary. Once it was negroes, then it was colored people, then it was african-americans, then it was blacks. Blacks and african-americans are the accepted terms now (in the US), though like anything, context is important. It's certainly not something to get all worked up about. Frankly, now that I think about it more, although no one would get offended by "african-american", alot of people would look at you funny.

Unfortunate that we have to bucket people in any case, but it's just human nature (evolution, baby) to categorize (people, things, concepts, whatever) in order to be able to get through a day and make any kind of decision in this complex world.

And once it was Niggers. Then there were Chinks. Chugs. Spics. Kikes..... At some point all of these terms were considered acceptable by the ruling majority. There is a reason why what's acceptable has evolved. There are a lot of people who DO find outdated racist terms very offensive, and not at all for manufactured or arbitrary reasons. The reasons are pretty specific and sound. So people probably should be called out when they are using racially offensive terms.

Sorry, I don't accept that the n-slur (or any of the other examples you provided) is equivalent in intent or offensiveness to the other terminology that I provided. Apples and oranges.

How are we to measure level of offensiveness?? It's not easy - that's why the best idea is to avoid ALL offensive racial slurs, even if you happen to believe (rightly or wrongly) that it isn't AS offensive as other terms.