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What setlist staple would you give a break?

dissident52dissident52 Omaha, NE Posts: 33
edited August 2013 in The Porch
In both American legs during the 2000 tour, Alive was omitted, with Seattle 2 being the only exception. This got me thinking, what song could really use a tour-long break, and what rarity would you replace it with?

For me, I would cut Even Flow. My reasoning? Besides being the most played song on Pearl Jam history, when it isn't played, I don't miss it. It's not a song that I really pop for. If i'm listening to a boot and they start playing it, my reaction is, "Oh it's Even Flow." Now don't get me wrong, I love the song, it's got great intensity, Mike's solo is always a must-hear, but if it wasn't played at all during this upcoming North American tour, I would probably appreciated it better come 2014.

And as for what rarity would I replace it with, Alone. While it might seem odd to replace one Ten-era song with another, I feel that Alone doesn't get the love from the band that it should. It's got that classic Stone Gossard riff to it, fantastic lyrics, and a very unique vibe to it. It might not be the best Pearl Jam song every written, but I just feel that playing this song only once a tour is too little.

So what staple would you bench? And what song would you bring up to bat?
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  • DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    cut the fixer... or just breathe.
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  • Pushin Forward BackPushin Forward Back Posts: 890
    Get rid of :
    Even Flow
    DTR
    Given 2 Fly
    Faithful
    Wish list

    Bring back:
    Blood
    Army Reserve
    Deep
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,905
    I could go without Daughter or Small Town and would love to hear All or None.
  • davidvanbdavidvanb Central Pennsylvania Posts: 73
    Jeremy. If that's asking too much, then RITFW. Love both songs, but have heard them more than enough to last me a good long time.
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  • Indi4enceIndi4ence Posts: 949
    I love Neil but, RITFW... i'd rather close the show with an original
  • PhillyCrownOfThornsPhillyCrownOfThorns Posts: 690
    davidvanb wrote:
    Jeremy. If that's asking too much, then RITFW. Love both songs, but have heard them more than enough to last me a good long time.

    Totally agree!

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  • calvo17calvo17 Posts: 440
    dissident52 wrote:
    And as for what rarity would I replace it with, Alone. While it might seem odd to replace one Ten-era song with another, I feel that Alone doesn't get the love from the band that it should. It's got that classic Stone Gossard riff to it, fantastic lyrics, and a very unique vibe to it. It might not be the best Pearl Jam song every written, but I just feel that playing this song only once a tour is too little.

    So true. I would get rid of Rearviewmirror and Better Man. I would bring Breath and Wash
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  • Daron OshayDaron Oshay Middletown, NJ Posts: 2,587
    Hank?
  • Vedder VitaminsVedder Vitamins Posts: 401
    daughter - replace with inside job
    betterman - replace with light years
    just breathe - replace with i am mine
    elderly woman - replace with all those yesterdays
    4/6/94, 4/10/94, 4/11/94
    9/26/96, 9/28/96, 10/2/96
    6/14/98, 9/13/98, 9/15/98, 9/16/98
    8/3/00, 8/29/00, 8/30/00
    7/2/03, 7/3/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03
    9/28/04, 9/29/04
    5/24/06, 5/25/06
    6/28/08, 6/30/08, 8/1/08, 8/2/08
    5/17/10
    10/15/13, 10/16/13
    8/5/16, 8/7/16
    9/4/18, 9/4/18
  • IcemanDorvalIcemanDorval Posts: 491
    Even Flow, Better Man, Daughter

    Replace with Tremor Christ, Immortality and Binaural/Riot Act songs
  • somebodyelsessky2020somebodyelsessky2020 Posts: 1,178
    even flow
    alive
    jeremy
    black
    dte
    wishlist
    corduroy
    rvm
    betterman- if I had to pick one it would be this
    yellow led better - or this
    given to fly
    ritfw
    elderly woman
    baba

    ole not a staple but I like last kiss better

    I deeply love all of the above except ole but the one downfall of seeing them too much is, they wore them out for me.

    I can think of more than a few replacements... like more---rival, whipping, blood, fatal, last exit, tremor christ, footsteps, leash, oceans, wash, red mosquito, in my tree, wma, all those yesterdays...ect. ect. ect.


    I think it's pretty safe to say....most people attending have seen them multiple times and would love a show without the "radio" favs.

    C'mon PJ bust out the goodies for this tour!
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • bluesuedeitzradbluesuedeitzrad Posts: 434
    break on:
    just breathe
    even flow
    go
    why go
    crazy mary

    bring back:
    I Am Mine
    Breath
    Love Boat Captain
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    Vedder Vitamins wrote:
    daughter - replace with inside job
    betterman - replace with light years
    just breathe - replace with i am mine
    elderly woman - replace with all those yesterdays

    Can't complain with that ^^!!

    But we have to realize the staples are there for the folks who don't know all the songs. Even in Missoula every few songs a dude was shouting FLOW!!! And when they didn't play it he was shocked...

    Not that I love the song but I understand it. Plus it's even flow! That song helped make pj famous because its a kick ass rock song.
  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    RITFW is the top of my list of things that have got to go. Baba O'reilly could go as well. Daughter needs a break. I'm not a fan of Daughter live. The endless tapering off, ad-hoc call and response and then it dies a slow death like a cancer patient.
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  • foodboyfoodboy Posts: 988
    wishlist,better man,even flow, alive,jeremy, daughter, corduoroy, please play more from riot act, of the earth, strangest tribe ,
  • foodboyfoodboy Posts: 988
    forgot given to fly, elderly woman, go,why go. it would just be great to completely mix it up again like they used to i.e. dte center michigan 2 nights 61 songs 1 the same. way too much great material to make tours now from groups of songs with a few nuggets with format mostly the same . other bands do that i always thought this one would be different.
  • barger395barger395 Posts: 855
    Vedder Vitamins wrote:
    daughter - replace with inside job
    betterman - replace with light years
    just breathe - replace with i am mine
    elderly woman - replace with all those yesterdays

    Ditto!
    Seen the Best Rock Band on the Planet a few times here and there.
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    Even Flow
    Daughter
    The Fixer
    Got Some
    RITFW
    COVERS in general
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  • NWOntarioNWOntario Toronto Posts: 830
    Setlist rotation's all well and good, but I want to hear "Alive," "Given to Fly," and "Do the Evolution" every single time I see Pearl Jam. The night just doesn't feel right without them; I think the absence of "Alive" is why I didn't love the 2000 tour (and yes, I understand why it wasn't played, but the show didn't feel complete without out).

    I've seen five "Even Flow" free shows, and it's not a song whose absence I lament. But that doesn't mean I don't want to hear it anymore, and certainly not as long as Mike and Matt keep playing out of their skins. ;)
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  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    seriously, try seeing the band less often if you can think of more than 0 songs

    me: NONE
  • YLed2YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    Got Some (replace with Dissident, Breakerfall, Last Exit, Tremor Christ, Red Mosquito, Brain Of J, etc.)
    Do The Evolution (see above)
    Just Breathe (replace with All Or None or Around The Bend)
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  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    just breathe..replace with whatever. preferably light years, thin air, fatal...
  • landolando Posts: 661
    Even flow, daughter, RITFW, Betterman, elderly woman, DTE for in my tree, I am mine, in hiding, hard to imagine, sleight of hand, leash
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,774
    Lose the covers, play only PJ songs - simple!

    I love a lot of the covers that they play but I haven't seen a PJ-only setlist since 2000. I think it would be great if they played a covers-free tour to support their 10th album, just celebrate their own songs.
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  • mustbechrismustbechris Posts: 228
    I've already had it with Just Breathe. I'd take RITFW as a 20 minute jam to open the show over Just Breathe at this point.

    I'd pick Grievance off the top of my head too. Good song, but it's just strange to me that Grievance has become like the only song from Binaural with concert staying power. I'd like to see it go away if for no reason other than to replace it with some lesser played Binaural songs.

    I'm actually okay with Even Flow/Corduroy/Alive/Daughter/Better Man because of the crowd reactions they produce.
    Speaking as a child of the 90's
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    RVM,RITFW,daughter,Unthoughtknown

    More Garden,Alone,Brother,Ghost,Deep
  • Indi4enceIndi4ence Posts: 949
    and dont play All Night.....ugh....IMHO
  • PredakingPredaking Posts: 282
    PhillyCrownOfThorns wrote:
    davidvanb wrote:
    Jeremy. If that's asking too much, then RITFW. Love both songs, but have heard them more than enough to last me a good long time.

    Totally agree!

    Need more WMA in full... Featuring Matt Cameron!

    Yup. WMA for sure. Would love more Who You Are. Was listening to some 08 boots and loved that and In My Tree.
  • bluesuedeitzradbluesuedeitzrad Posts: 434
    I'm definitely in favor of more Riot Act songs. That's the only tour I've missed since 98 and have regretted it since.

    Someone mentioned In Hiding. Good call!

    There are some songs like Betterman, Small Town, Given to Fly, etc., that are staples but always enjoy seeing performed.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,847
    To me, the only one is Just Breathe.
    It has been a static song, slotted at the same time, nearly every show for 4 years.
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