Parents smoke pot, child placed in foster home, murdered

unsung

http://www.kvue.com/news/Father-of-murd ... 37541.html


Thank God we have government protecting our best interests.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

This is brutal.

There are some people that have some questions to answer for this.

And there is a child killer that can get whatever comes his way.

Go Beavers

The story brings up a few questions and points. My guess is that the child was removed initially for more than just the parents smoking pot while the child was sleeping. I don't know the specifics of Texas law, but it's not always a simple process to remove a child from parents custody, and when these things happen, you get the "child welfare went to far" response, as opposed to the "why are these people allowed to even have kids, child welfare does nothing" responses.

Here's a red flag at the bottom of the article: "Officials with the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services tell KVUE they rely on private child placing agencies to perform background checks on all foster homes." Privitizing government functions isn't always a good thing.

Loulou

I know I'm probably going to get a lashing for this but it's how I feel. Her father let her down, you can't be smoking pot when your looking after a 2 year old. Whether she's asleep or awake, you need to be sober and he wasn't. As for the foster mother, she's a disgusting f-ing monster who deserves what's coming to her.

Its Evolution Baby

Loulou wrote:

I know I'm probably going to get a lashing for this but it's how I feel. Her father let her down, you can't be smoking pot when your looking after a 2 year old. Whether she's asleep or awake, you need to be sober and he wasn't. As for the foster mother, she's a disgusting f-ing monster who deserves what's coming to her.

I won't lash out at you but I do think we need more facts. How was CPS alerted in the first place that the indivisual was endangering the child? Was there a fire that was slept through or something like that?

If he was JUST smoking pot than he should not have had the kid taken away. Smoking pot is the equivilant of drinking a beer or having a glass of wine. It does not dull the senses enough to endanger a child.

Unless you think that all households need to be 100% sober in order to take after a kid which I will respectively diagree with. I know my Irish Family wouldn't have any kids allowed in the household in that case.

Loulou

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

Loulou wrote:

I know I'm probably going to get a lashing for this but it's how I feel. Her father let her down, you can't be smoking pot when your looking after a 2 year old. Whether she's asleep or awake, you need to be sober and he wasn't. As for the foster mother, she's a disgusting f-ing monster who deserves what's coming to her.

I won't lash out at you but I do think we need more facts. How was CPS alerted in the first place that the indivisual was endangering the child? Was there a fire that was slept through or something like that?

If he was JUST smoking pot than he should not have had the kid taken away. Smoking pot is the equivilant of drinking a beer or having a glass of wine. It does not dull the senses enough to endanger a child.

Unless you think that all households need to be 100% sober in order to take after a kid which I will respectively diagree with. I know my Irish Family wouldn't have any kids allowed in the household in that case.

Although i dont now, I used to smoke dope so I do know how it makes you feel. Even though I don't agree with being wrecked or pissed and supervising a child, for me it's got more to do with the fact that he jeopardised the custody of his child by doing so. I guess what I'm saying is that if he felt he reeeeeally needed to have something, he should have had a beer or glass of wine because what he did was put his child at risk of being taken away. Just for the record, I do think its excessive for them to take her away without some form of warning first. Maybe he did have one? Who knows?

chadwick

in texas full on family activities take place at nudist camps/communities. adults not mom or dad are there, all kinds of kids, everybody running amok. yeah texas has their shit together. so they arrest a family & send the kid to a foster home. smart fuckers down there texas way. people have been rotting in texas prison cells for decades over simple marijuana charges. i would bet that over the years some have been sentenced to death too.

i know the thing about the nudist community family functions because i dated a gal who was married to a sick fucking nudist freak whose every child was molested a those nudist community family centers.

texas aint right when it comes to a lot of things.

Loulou

chadwick wrote:

in texas full on family activities take place at nudist camps/communities. adults not mom or dad are there, all kinds of kids, everybody running amok. yeah texas has their shit together. so they arrest a family & send the a foster home. smart fuckers down there texas way. people have been rotting in texas prison cells for decades over simple marijuana charges. i would bet that over the years some have been sentenced to death too.

i know the thing about the nudist community family functions because i dated a gal you was married to a sick fucking nudist freak whose every child was molested a those nudist community family centers.

texas aint right when it comes to a lot of things.

Wow :shock: that's awful! I agree that it was excessive to take her away, hell, in our country they wait and wait and wait some more before taking action on neglectful families. Only recently we had 2 deaths by the hands of their mothers. One little chicken was bitten, burnt with cigarettes, never went to school and was reported to CPS 10 times before she was killed because 'she wouldn't put her PJ's on'. disgusting!
http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/lat ... weippeart/

Hugh Freaking Dillon

heartbreaking.

polaris_x

is there no end as to what you would use to rail against gov't? ... i wouldn't be surprised if the child was taken away simply because the parent was smoking pot ... i have experience with child services in a different state and i can tell you that the welfare of the child is not necessarily the #1 priority ...

unsung

polaris_x wrote:

is there no end as to what you would use to rail against gov't? ....

Not when they provide an endless amount of material.

ajedigecko

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

heartbreaking.

Truth.

mickeyrat

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

Loulou wrote:

I know I'm probably going to get a lashing for this but it's how I feel. Her father let her down, you can't be smoking pot when your looking after a 2 year old. Whether she's asleep or awake, you need to be sober and he wasn't. As for the foster mother, she's a disgusting f-ing monster who deserves what's coming to her.

I won't lash out at you but I do think we need more facts. How was CPS alerted in the first place that the indivisual was endangering the child? Was there a fire that was slept through or something like that?

If he was JUST smoking pot than he should not have had the kid taken away. Smoking pot is the equivilant of drinking a beer or having a glass of wine. It does not dull the senses enough to endanger a child.

Unless you think that all households need to be 100% sober in order to take after a kid which I will respectively diagree with. I know my Irish Family wouldn't have any kids allowed in the household in that case.

Considering that its illegal at present in the state of texas to smoke,possess pot, it could be argued that the removal was justified. How's those low taxes for public services workin out for ya Perry? In my mind it lays at his feet and the legislatures.

unsung

Taxes? Really? That's the reason why they essentially kidnapped this child from her parents?

mickeyrat

unsung wrote:

Taxes? Really? That's the reason why they essentially kidnapped this child from her parents?

I'm assuming it was because of the fathers ILLEGAL activity. As for how they palce kids, that's squarely on Perry and the legislature. Perry as the Head of th Execd and Leg for their control of the purse strings.

belinda27

What happened to this precious child is sad. :(
There are 28,883 children in foster care in Texas; 10,768 of these children are waiting for adoptive families. 26 million people live in Texas...
In Australia our entire population is 23 million, 39,620 children in foster care...

Loulou wrote:

chadwick wrote:

in texas full on family activities take place at nudist camps/communities. adults not mom or dad are there, all kinds of kids, everybody running amok. yeah texas has their shit together. so they arrest a family & send the a foster home. smart fuckers down there texas way. people have been rotting in texas prison cells for decades over simple marijuana charges. i would bet that over the years some have been sentenced to death too.

i know the thing about the nudist community family functions because i dated a gal you was married to a sick fucking nudist freak whose every child was molested a those nudist community family centers.

texas aint right when it comes to a lot of things.

Wow :shock: that's awful! I agree that it was excessive to take her away, hell, in our country they wait and wait and wait some more before taking action on neglectful families. Only recently we had 2 deaths by the hands of their mothers. One little chicken was bitten, burnt with cigarettes, never went to school and was reported to CPS 10 times before she was killed because 'she wouldn't put her PJ's on'. disgusting!
http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/lat ... weippeart/

hostis

unsung wrote:

Taxes? Really? That's the reason why they essentially kidnapped this child from her parents?

kidnapped? where on earth did that come from? children placed into care are not KIDNAPPED.

how can that assessment possibly be gained from that one supplied article?

Loulou

belinda27 wrote:

What happened to this precious child is sad. :(
There are 28,883 children in foster care in Texas; 10,768 of these children are waiting for adoptive families. 26 million people live in Texas...
In Australia our entire population is 23 million, 39,620 children in foster care...

Loulou wrote:

chadwick wrote:

in texas full on family activities take place at nudist camps/communities. adults not mom or dad are there, all kinds of kids, everybody running amok. yeah texas has their shit together. so they arrest a family & send the a foster home. smart fuckers down there texas way. people have been rotting in texas prison cells for decades over simple marijuana charges. i would bet that over the years some have been sentenced to death too.

i know the thing about the nudist community family functions because i dated a gal you was married to a sick fucking nudist freak whose every child was molested a those nudist community family centers.

texas aint right when it comes to a lot of things.

Wow :shock: that's awful! I agree that it was excessive to take her away, hell, in our country they wait and wait and wait some more before taking action on neglectful families. Only recently we had 2 deaths by the hands of their mothers. One little chicken was bitten, burnt with cigarettes, never went to school and was reported to CPS 10 times before she was killed because 'she wouldn't put her PJ's on'. disgusting!
http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/lat ... weippeart/

Wow! Really? That's terrible. :(

Pingfah

There must be more to this than just him smoking pot? Unless the parents were so permanently stoned they could not function, which would be extremely fucking stoned, to remove a child from a loving home and put them into foster care is insanity. Poor fucking guy though, to lose a child, hard to imagine anything worse.

I'm gonna assume there is more the article does not mention. Otherwise, i'll just add this to the list of reasons never to visit Texas, as though there weren't enough of those already.

hostis

Pingfah wrote:

There must be more to this than just him smoking pot? Unless the parents were so permanently stoned they could not function, which would be extremely fucking stoned, to remove a child from a loving home and put them into foster care is insanity. Poor fucking guy though, to lose a child, hard to imagine anything worse.

you never know. 'Just ' smoking pot is fine unless they were putting their own needs ahead of the child's.

Pingfah

That would be the "more" I am referring to. Nothing in the article suggests he had neglected or endangered the child though. It seems like they may be omitting some vital information.