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Ark. district arming more than 20 teachers, staff

backseatLover12backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
edited July 2013 in A Moving Train
I found this story on Facebook from a local news station. And what I found extremely disturbing were the comments (a majority of them) actually supporting this. DISTURBING!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ark- ... f-19811385
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    recipe



    for



    disaster



    :fp:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,055
    Craziness!

    "Johnny, get back in your seat, stop talking to Jimmy and do your homework or you're gonna get it!"
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Maybe I'm not desensitized... but every time I walk by someone who is carrying a pistol on their leg, or an armed guard in Mexico carrying an assault rifle... I get the heeby-geebies.

    The power to wield death sits in their holster or in their hands. I always think to myself, "Hope this guy is having a good week! Sure don't want any 'episode' right now."

    I wouldn't want my kid going to a school where the staff is carrying weaponry. No freaking way. For that matter... I don't want my kids growing up in a society that allows my neighbours to carry advanced weaponry. No freaking way. I'll leave that for the residents of other countries if they think that is cool and something they want.

    There's a better way you know.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • paysonitespaysonites Posts: 1,150
    edited July 2013
    Why not installing metal detectors and adding mass trained security instead.
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    John and Shawna
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Meh.

    At least Arkansas is doing something about the teen pregnancy rate.

    You can't get knocked up if you're dead.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Please put down your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    Please put down your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply.

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    hall pass motherfucker???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Good thing teachers could never go crazy.
  • riotgrlriotgrl Posts: 1,895
    There are so many things wrong with this, I don't know where to start. Do they really think that the identity of who is carrying a gun will be secret? In every school situation that is "secret" the kids always know before faculty and staff. And they have $50,000 to spend on buying weapons and training these teachers but forget about advancing the education of these students through additional funding. Is it just me or did it bother anyone else that they used real students to simulate their training scenarios? Seriously, fucked up.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    If you know that one of the staff has a gun, can't you just whack him over the head and take his gun if you are a sick screwjob?

    :think:
  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 Posts: 12,632
    Adding guns to any situation automatically makes it worse, I would prefer this:

    Originally Published: 7/31/2013

    Ballistic shields do double duty in classrooms

    By Steven Henshaw
    Reading Eagle

    In most mass school shootings that have occurred in the U.S., the gunmen were armed with handguns, shotguns or smaller-caliber rifles and met their first resistance from building staff, not from first responders.

    So teachers become reluctant first responders, with typically nothing but their bodies to protect kids from bullets, George Tunis, chairman and CEO of Hardwire LLC, Pocomoke City, Md., told representatives of several Berks County police departments Tuesday.

    Tunis, whose company specializes in making armor for military and paramilitary units, sought an answer to this problem and he says he found it in the success of ballistic shields protecting troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Tunis demonstrated his company's lightweight, durable, versatile ballistic shields that are designed to blend in with other classroom fixtures. The shields can be hung on walls and used as dry-erase boards on which teachers write their classroom assignments.

    The company also makes small shields that double as clipboards that can be particularly useful for coaches and physical education teachers or police during traffic stops.

    As demonstrated at the Muhlenberg Township police shooting range Tuesday, they can stop a bullet fired from a .44-Magnum revolver from 7 yards away. A slug fired from a shotgun sent the shield flying, but the round didn't penetrate the compressed fiber.

    Hardwire first designed its signature lighter-than-Kevlar, laminated compressed fiber shields for use in ballistic vests for U.S. special operations forces, Tunis said.

    As troop casualties mounted from roadside bombs in Iraq, the company was asked to ramp up production. It started making shields for armored vehicles, and, as they were rolled out, casualty rates dropped significantly.

    Hardwire gradually shifted to making ballistic shields for drug interdiction units such as Customs and Border Protection and even the Los Angeles Police Department, Tunis said.


    Then the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre happened and the father of two school-age children felt utterly helpless.

    "I'm literally watching the events of Sandy Hook unfold," Tunis said. "I'm sitting next to my son and saying, 'Geez, we can do something about this.' We put armor in the hands of our soldiers, and the casualty rate just comes right on down in Iraq and Afghanistan. Armor was that equalizing force."

    Tunis donated enough shields to his children's school to equip every staff member.

    "We're not undoing anything the school taught them before," Tunis said. "A lockdown drill is still a lockdown drill. But now all of a sudden, as a teacher I've got a way to get my kids behind me and even in an evacuation, other teachers and I can work together to get the kids down the hall. Protect the convoy, we call it."

    Cost and mobility were key factors to market the shields for schools, Tunis said.

    The bigger shields cost $299, and the clipboard shields cost $109.

    The shields come in various colors, so they shouldn't be intimidating to children. Perhaps the biggest benefit is they bring peace of mind and avoid the debate about whether arming teachers or school guards is a good idea, Tunis said.

    Muhlenberg School District officials attended the demonstration hosted by Muhlenberg police.

    Muhlenberg Elementary Center Principal Steve Baylor said: "We are always trying to be proactive and constantly asking what we can do to keep the school safe. This is just another option."

    Muhlenberg Police Chief Erik P. Grunzig said he initially plans to order 15 of the clipboard shields - one for each marked vehicle - and eventually replace the full Kevlar ballistic shields with the lighter weight Hardwire shields.

    Contact Steven Henshaw: 610-371-5028 or <!-- e --><a href="mailto:shenshaw@readingeagle.com">shenshaw@readingeagle.com</a><!-- e -->.

    http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=498124
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Bear proof suits for every child!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CzYw5-qdA
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