Kid Rock can do what????
fear4freedom
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If Kid Rock can do a concert tour that costs $20 for tickets, $20 posters/shirts, and $4 beers
Why cant PJ do the same and just do stadiums? Why cant they do a tour for the poor people?
Kid Rock is determining the price of beers too! That means he is pulling and pushing his influence on the venue itself
Why cant PJ do the same?
Why cant PJ do the same and just do stadiums? Why cant they do a tour for the poor people?
Kid Rock is determining the price of beers too! That means he is pulling and pushing his influence on the venue itself
Why cant PJ do the same?
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
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I'll ride the wave where it takes me...
A bit of a give and take, no? Less upfront, more on concessions?
I'd go for the $4 beers... consider the rest a cover charge for the bar with a really shitty band.
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In addition to the $20 tickets, 1,000 “platinum” tickets will also be sold for each show, with prices ranging from $60 to $350. Essentially, Kid Rock is scalping these tickets in order to make up for the cheaper prices paid by the rest of the concert goers. That’s how he explained it to the Associated Press:
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I have seen everyone in rock, and in every venue imaginable. I have gotten to see Brad, Everclear, and the Smashing Pumpkins all in records stores with about hundred people. I also was at the U2 concert in Phoenix they filmed for Rattle & Hum.
In all that time, only 2 bands have ever done anything about ticket prices. Everyone talks a good game, and there has been some measurable progress against the scalping plague (by using will call only). Only Pearl Jam and Kid Rock have actually done something about it. PJ went to the justice department, and Kid Rock is doing this.
What you think of Kid Rock's music is moot to the larger issue at hand. He is changing the game saying "$20 tickets".
$10 ticket prices are what Pearl Jam was fighting for, quite specifically. I was kinda sad, then, that my last Pearl Jam show were $100 tickets for OK seats... and that was even through the fan club.
I like Kid Rock, and I like his music. I think he is good and genuine people. I am impressed with his awesome and crazy business model that I bought to tix to his show coming up in Denver. I may not be able to go, because of work. That's ok. To me. $50 ($20 tickets with $5 service charge X2) is WAY worth the price to support this business model. I want him to be INSANELY successful on this tour, so other bands see it can be done.
Just look at the beer prices thing he is doing. $4 a beer. Keep this in mind, at Red Rocks a couple weeks ago, Coors beers were $8. Now, Coors is only about ten miles from Red Rocks. Their cost per peer can't be more than 25 cents, and half of that is the cup.
He is changing the business model here. These days 100% of ticket costs generally go to the band. The venue makes their money on concessions. So, what he likely did reminds me of what Peter Grant did with Zeppelin in the 70's. Back then, usually the promoter took 50% of sales, and the band got the other 50% of sales. Peter Grant demanded 80%. They balked at him. So, he said "well, you can have 20% of Led Zeppelin, or 100% of nothing". In time, everyone caved.
Odds are when Kid Rocks' management told the venues they wanted $4 beers, they were laughed at. So, then they probably said "ok, then absolutely no beer sales" Now, $4 doesn't look so bad. Keep in mind, these venues (almost all are run by aramark) don't even pay the concessioneers. Most of them are volunteering for tips for a youth football league. Even in the football stadiums, they were for free, and for tips.
As fans that watched Pearl Jam go through this 20 years ago, and lose, we should not be shitting on the next ape to try and climb the wall.
So, go see Kid Rock this summer. Oh, and he has one of the great rock bands of all times opening - ZZ Top. I guarantee you will have fun. ZZ Top to me is a lot like I hear people say about Pearl Jam. I was not much of a fan, but knew a few songs of theirs from radio. I went to a show (to see another band, but they were also playing) and they KILLED. They also played 2 hours of songs and I knew every one of them. 40 years together!
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But a great read and a real game changing effort he is attempting.
Kudos to him.
Kid Rock also had to do this to get people to his shows. Pearl Jam sells out most shows at $80, so I don't see any reason they would reduce the ticket price.
Well articulated...and I hope that others get the reasons too. It takes someone like me at least four months to save for a "pair" of tickets that i need to concede as a fan club member... and it also kind of bums me out that my original fan club number... a four digit one... got pushed up to a six digit one in the 200k's when I couldn't buy a year membership in the right time...then after a year of homelessness, illness, and then finally getting back into the club.. my number is now in the 476k's... only to hear that seniority means more for things like ticket sales, and other perks in a club...that is a pretty depressing thing for someone who has so actively supported a band.. (even handing out MLB flyers in the day).
I was THERE when Stone was in congress, I was THERE when Zappa was doing the same..... our support costs us a lot of cash through the years. A lot of it. I really admire the business model honed in by Kid Rock..he will build a fan base back that maybe he lost by the costs of the shows. I KNOW it costs money to put up shows.. I've been in music and entertainment for over 4 decades. But it should be on the backs of the producers and advertisers, and not on the people who support them. Yes record companies are not what they were even 5 years ago, but MP3s are still selling. Radiohead hasn't lost fans by giving things away. T-shirts sold under $15 are a GREAT advertising tool... but twice that? I feel like a tool sometimes buying them.
PJ is generous with the fans in SO many ways.... I hope that somehow this type of business model will take hold. It makes a lot of sense..and it WILL be the way to rebuild fan bases that might otherwise be out priced for the great music. (I'd still spend 10 hours listening to buskers if Glen Hansard was on the streets.... no one would stop me from giving him more money to play.) Is it about the money now? Really? Does any of the band have to worry about not paying bills? (Yes, stage and office crew do..and yes they need to be paid fairly, given raises, and taken care of... but we can do that by just putting fair prices ahead of over-bloating. I'd buy 4 shirts instead of 1 each show. I'd buy 3 tickets instead of 1 each show... wouldn't you?
Henry David Thoreau