SURVEY MONKEY RESULTS - LEG 2

mrussel1

Here are leg 2 results. Far fewer people responded and data shows why I believe. I stacked the first four choices for this leg because success decline didn't happen until choice 5 which was different than leg 1

1. Much higher success rate of the first three choices, therefore less interest in finding out 'what happened??'
2. Low demand for Vancouver, Calgary and even LA
3. Seattle was the outlier, along with OKC and Dallas. Perhaps the limited choices in the center of the country drove that dynamic.
4. One thing that stood out across all shows/venues.. Reserve had higher demand overall. Perhaps the GA scared people away, perhaps we are getting old. Either way, keep that in mind if there is a Leg 3.

All results are here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm= ... JxzfvIM_3d

Leg 1 thread here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=211896

It's hard to see, so the stacked graph goes left to right in the order of the shows, with GA coming first.
Click on the links below for the graphs.

mrussel1

Sorry folks.. Data crapped out on me. 10C won't let me upload anything that is visible at all now.

You can see the graphs here:

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb3 ... 2/Leg2.jpg

click and [ctrl] + scroll to zoom

radar

Great analysis.
We're getting old is a nice observation
I agree-more satsfied people = less survey responses

mrussel1

Bump... with all the responses, figure many will want to review. Traffic on these boards pushes something to page 3 in about 10 mins. Crazy.

crowes74

I had intended to put my info in for the survey, but fell asleep waiting to get notified. I'd already forgot by the time I woke up at 4am to see I'd got my tickets.

... I'm in the older camp myself, much rather have a place to call my own than get cozy with the masses. No offense

themessenger

Is the survey still up? I'd like to respond but been a busy few days and didn't have a chance.

RKCNDY

crowes74 wrote:

I had intended to put my info in for the survey, but fell asleep waiting to get notified. I'd already forgot by the time I woke up at 4am to see I'd got my tickets.

... I'm in the older camp myself, much rather have a place to call my own than get cozy with the masses. No offense

I figured more people would put in for Res, so I went for GA #1 -still a loser both ways!

mrussel1

themessenger wrote:

Is the survey still up? I'd like to respond but been a busy few days and didn't have a chance.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=211359&hilit=ticket+survey

This was the thread. You can take it, but unless a lot more take it, I won't run the data again. Only if it looks like it would move the number.

themessenger

mrussel1 wrote:

themessenger wrote:

Is the survey still up? I'd like to respond but been a busy few days and didn't have a chance.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=211359&hilit=ticket+survey

This was the thread. You can take it, but unless a lot more take it, I won't run the data again. Only if it looks like it would move the number.

Awesome thanks, I just did it. This week the threads leave page 1 in minutes so maybe it got buried too fast for some people. Great idea, and the results are interesting.

RKCNDY

done

BE9456

Can you list what shows/picks won. Just knowing what pick won, but not for what show it was isn't the whole story.

thanks!!!!!!!!

mrussel1

BE9456 wrote:

Can you list what shows/picks won. Just knowing what pick won, but not for what show it was isn't the whole story.

thanks!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately that is a limitation of the data which Survey Monkey provides for my membership level. I can't cross reference the data in a way that directly links a specific request to a win/loss. I'm sure if I paid more money a month, I could. Or I could go through every response. Probably not happening.

The other thing to remember is that for many folks, they requested the same show twice in a row, first GA then Reserve or vice versa. They obviously could not win both. So that also skews the data down from a success rate.

BE9456

mrussel1 wrote:

BE9456 wrote:

Can you list what shows/picks won. Just knowing what pick won, but not for what show it was isn't the whole story.

thanks!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately that is a limitation of the data which Survey Monkey provides for my membership level. I can't cross reference the data in a way that directly links a specific request to a win/loss. I'm sure if I paid more money a month, I could. Or I could go through every response. Probably not happening.

The other thing to remember is that for many folks, they requested the same show twice in a row, first GA then Reserve or vice versa. They obviously could not win both. So that also skews the data down from a success rate.

can you export the raw data?

Mudfest

The low Vancouver number surprises me as it is 2 hours from Seattle ...
Prob could have let that one slide as a lower priority and moved up my seattle choice..

Nice work

mrussel1

BE9456 wrote:

mrussel1 wrote:

BE9456 wrote:

Can you list what shows/picks won. Just knowing what pick won, but not for what show it was isn't the whole story.

thanks!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately that is a limitation of the data which Survey Monkey provides for my membership level. I can't cross reference the data in a way that directly links a specific request to a win/loss. I'm sure if I paid more money a month, I could. Or I could go through every response. Probably not happening.

The other thing to remember is that for many folks, they requested the same show twice in a row, first GA then Reserve or vice versa. They obviously could not win both. So that also skews the data down from a success rate.

can you export the raw data?

Yes, that's how I built those rudimentary graphs. What you see was the limit of the data that was provided. It was actually worse as I had to build new formulas because the online information was actually more than the export.

ekwipt

Mudfest wrote:

The low Vancouver number surprises me as it is 2 hours from Seattle ...
Prob could have let that one slide as a lower priority and moved up my seattle choice..

Nice work

Van. reserved was my 1st choice and I didn't win. Either demand was higher than this survey shows or reserved tix were quite limited for this show. Won GA tix as my 2nd choice. Anyone out there win Van. reserved as 2nd choice or lower? If so it reveals there is more to the way the lottery works than meets the eye.

mrussel1

ekwipt wrote:

Mudfest wrote:

The low Vancouver number surprises me as it is 2 hours from Seattle ...
Prob could have let that one slide as a lower priority and moved up my seattle choice..

Nice work

Van. reserved was my 1st choice and I didn't win. Either demand was higher than this survey shows or reserved tix were quite limited for this show. Won GA tix as my 2nd choice. Anyone out there win Van. reserved as 2nd choice or lower? If so it reveals there is more to the way the lottery works than meets the eye.

Two things:

1. Reserve, I believe at every show, had a higher request rate than GA.
2. Maybe more importantly, I did not get enough results from Leg 2 to be significant. So these results may not play out as accurately as Leg 1 showed.

zje1979

I think another reason why the Leg1 had more respondants and therefore more people wondering "what happened" is due to the fact that the Population Density of the US is far greater in the NE than the west. I mean, sure, we have big cities out here, but they're further apart and there's not a lot of people in between.

ekwipt

I have seen on the boards that there are people who won Van. reserved as their 2nd choice while I didn't get it as my 1st choice. Either mistakes were made with the lottery or it is a more complex process with more variables than has been assumed. Still feel lucky and happy that I got GA as 2nd choice.