good news

81

Il is about to go ccw

Hopefully by the 19th

unsung

July 9 is the final day for the court ordered carry, if nothing is signed by our Commie governor we fall into that. I just bought a Glock 30SF yesterday for the special occasion. Of course this governor will do everything he can to defy the courts.

81

unsung wrote:

July 9 is the final day for the court ordered carry, if nothing is signed by our Commie governor we fall into that. I just bought a Glock 30SF yesterday for the special occasion. Of course this governor will do everything he can to defy the courts.

guess i should follow it closer....

bought fuckin time tho.

unsung

Yeah the legislature will be voting Tuesday iirc on overriding his veto. Quinn makes me sick, he surrounds himself with kids and says his #1 directive is public safety, no it is to uphold the Constitution. I'm sick of politicians standing on graves of dead kids.

In any case it'll be about six months before anyone gets the permit because the legislation gives the ISP six months just to come up with a process. We know nothing gets done quick in this state.

ajedigecko

Why do you need a gun?

...are the laws not working?

81

heard on the radio, they have 180 days to do something or anouther (process?)...and then once you submit an application, the state sheriff has 90 days to review. guess we are looking at next spring

ajedigecko

Illinois spring.

Let the revolution begin.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung wrote:

I'm sick of politicians standing on graves of dead kids.

There are many that are likely sick of politicians ignoring the graves of dead kids.

Good thinking with your new purchase though. You should be really ready when the takeover occurs. Hopefully... PJ will get their tour done first. I'll be pissed if the government takes over before that and wrecks the tour plans. I'm sick of the government wrecking tour plans.

unsung

81 wrote:

heard on the radio, they have 180 days to do something or anouther (process?)...and then once you submit an application, the state sheriff has 90 days to review. guess we are looking at next spring

Yep the ISP has 180 just to come up with a permit and approve instructors for the class. So yeah it'll be next spring for sure before we get to exercise our rights. I'm moving in the next few years, I've had it.

Btw I don't agree with how this whole thing went down. Federal rules on guns is unconstitutional and we allowed a federal court to rule on it.

unsung

ajedigecko wrote:

Why do you need a gun?

...are the laws not working?

I have the right to defend myself. Period.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

Why do you need a gun?

...are the laws not working?

I have the right to defend myself. Period.

Is it really about defending yourself? Seriously? Are you really that frightened where you think you need an arsenal to defend yourself?

So I might have a better understanding of where you might be coming from: what exactly are you scared of and what is it that you might need to defend yourself from?

Snakeduck

I never once let a law or permit dictate my concealed carrying... If I feel the need to conceal a weapon (and I sometimes do), I will.

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

unsung wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

Why do you need a gun?

...are the laws not working?

I have the right to defend myself. Period.

Is it really about defending yourself? Seriously? Are you really that frightened where you think you need an arsenal to defend yourself?

So I might have a better understanding of where you might be coming from: what exactly are you scared of and what is it that you might need to defend yourself from?

that does not matter,being prepared and being afraid are not the same thing...during a home invasion you can be armed and prepared or unarmed and afraid and possibly hurt or dead.

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Godfather. wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Is it really about defending yourself? Seriously? Are you really that frightened where you think you need an arsenal to defend yourself?

So I might have a better understanding of where you might be coming from: what exactly are you scared of and what is it that you might need to defend yourself from?

that does not matter,being prepared and being afraid are not the same thing...during a home invasion you can be armed and prepared or unarmed and afraid and possibly hurt or dead.

Godfather.

But that doesn't really answer the question. You're saying be prepared with guns for something. I'm not sure that's a good enough answer to offset 11,000 gun homicides per annum.

Is it the home invasion? These are very rare and... in the event of one... a shotgun would suffice. You don't need a glock. Or an AR-15. Why not take these types of guns out of the equation?

81

this is good news....lets stay on topic....

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Im in!

JonnyPistachio

unsung wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

Why do you need a gun?

...are the laws not working?

I have the right to defend myself. Period.

I'd just like to point out that you put a period, then wrote "period."
If that's like a double negative, I believe your run-on sentence has no punctuation, and you have the freedom to add to it at any time. :P

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Is it really about defending yourself? Seriously? Are you really that frightened where you think you need an arsenal to defend yourself?

So I might have a better understanding of where you might be coming from: what exactly are you scared of and what is it that you might need to defend yourself from?

that does not matter,being prepared and being afraid are not the same thing...during a home invasion you can be armed and prepared or unarmed and afraid and possibly hurt or dead.

Godfather.

But that doesn't really answer the question. You're saying be prepared with guns for something. I'm not sure that's a good enough answer to offset 11,000 gun homicides per annum.

Is it the home invasion? These are very rare and... in the event of one... a shotgun would suffice. You don't need a glock. Or an AR-15. Why not take these types of guns out of the equation?

Why not take these types of guns out of the equation ?.... "My right as a responsible American" to buy and own them.


Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Godfather. wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

But that doesn't really answer the question. You're saying be prepared with guns for something. I'm not sure that's a good enough answer to offset 11,000 gun homicides per annum.

Is it the home invasion? These are very rare and... in the event of one... a shotgun would suffice. You don't need a glock. Or an AR-15. Why not take these types of guns out of the equation?

Why not take these types of guns out of the equation ?.... "My right as a responsible American" to buy and own them.


Godfather.

So you are prepared for 11,000 gun homicides each year to preserve your right to own these toys? I say toys because we have concluded that a shotgun would suffice as an effective tool in the event of an extremely rare home invasion; therefore, rendering handguns and assault rifles play things.

No other scenario- such as an invading army coming up the street- was presented to describe the 'need' for such weaponry.

Can you realistically call yourself a 'responsible' American when you choose to ignore the gross statistics that point to an epidemic gun problem that has spiralled out of control? From my way of thinking... I call such an attitude irresponsible.

unsung

Firearms are not toys.

But back on topic (there are many anti gun threads here so we can be allowed to have one pro gun) rumor is that there will be a certain someone filing for injunction. Ah, freedom hating people really amaze me.

aerial

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

But that doesn't really answer the question. You're saying be prepared with guns for something. I'm not sure that's a good enough answer to offset 11,000 gun homicides per annum.

Is it the home invasion? These are very rare and... in the event of one... a shotgun would suffice. You don't need a glock. Or an AR-15. Why not take these types of guns out of the equation?

Why not take these types of guns out of the equation ?.... "My right as a responsible American" to buy and own them.


Godfather.

So you are prepared for 11,000 gun homicides each year to preserve your right to own these toys? I say toys because we have concluded that a shotgun would suffice as an effective tool in the event of an extremely rare home invasion; therefore, rendering handguns and assault rifles play things.

No other scenario- such as an invading army coming up the street- was presented to describe the 'need' for such weaponry.

Can you realistically call yourself a 'responsible' American when you choose to ignore the gross statistics that point to an epidemic gun problem that has spiralled out of control? From my way of thinking... I call such an attitude irresponsible.

Personally I do not want to ruin my home with the mess a shotgun would make, when one bullet could do the job and make less mess...