The Gun Report , NY Times blog by Joe Nocera

Godfather.

what gun laws can be changed or improved on ? there are already back ground checks and in california it takes weeks before you can take your gun home.
you guys keep saying we need better laws but what do you want to change ?

Godfather.

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

what gun laws can be changed or improved on ? there are already back ground checks and in california it takes weeks before you can take your gun home.
you guys keep saying we need better laws but what do you want to change ?

Godfather.

...
Did you know that you can buy a gun at a Gun Show from a 'Private Person' and not have to pass any requirements other than having the correct amount of cash on you? you can walk away with that gun the minute the transaction is completed.
How about tightening up that loop hole for a starter?

mickeyrat

Godfather. wrote:

what gun laws can be changed or improved on ? there are already back ground checks and in california it takes weeks before you can take your gun home.
you guys keep saying we need better laws but what do you want to change ?

Godfather.

this is MY state.

YOU tell me where I might think things need changed. I'm Serious in that request.

Re: Multiple People dead in Santa Monica Shooting

Postby mickeyrat » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:07 pm

So very fucking proud to be an Ohioan ......

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... -guns.html

Federal data released this week show once again that Ohio is a top source for guns involved in crimes in other states. And the state remains among the weakest when it comes to gun laws.

Criminals know that, law-enforcement officials say, so it’s no surprise to them that Ohio guns show up in so many criminal acts in other states.

“People know they can come to Ohio, get a gun, and take it someplace where there are tougher restrictions,” said Columbus Deputy Police Chief Jeffrey Blackwell. “It happens at gun shows in the sticks and through underground schemes on city streets.”

Sometimes, it’s a lot of guns, such as the 183 that ended up involved in New York crimes, or just one, such as the Ohio gun linked to a crime in Vermont.

In all, 1,601 guns were first legally purchased in Ohio last year and then linked to crimes such as robbery and homicide in 36 other states. An additional 5,375 guns stayed in Ohio and were linked to crimes in 2012, according to a Dispatch analysis of data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

In 2011, the number of guns traced back to Ohio from other states was closer to 1,700, with 5,225 staying in the state. Ohio was a top contributor of guns used in crimes in 38 states.

Though not all those guns are linked to trafficking operations, Laura Cutilletta, senior staff attorney for the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, says that the trace data illustrate how easy it is to get guns in Ohio. She said the state has too many loopholes for gun ownership that serve as a “beacon” for a gun-trafficking market.

By law, background checks are not required for all gun sales — including some online and gun-show sellers. The state doesn’t keep track of who buys guns. Violent misdemeanors, such as domestic violence, don’t disqualify someone from making a firearm purchase.

But gun lobbies argue that there will always be criminals who break the law, no matter how tight the law is.

Now that those lobbies have seemingly halted Congress’ push for tighter gun restrictions, some argue that lawmakers in states across the country could have some effect on gun trafficking in America. But others argue that any more restrictions on gun ownership will affect a constitutional right to bear arms.

Movement of guns

It’s hard to end gun trafficking because it’s tough to track the movement of guns. There’s no national register the federal government can use to show who owns a firearm at any given time. The ATF each year uses information supplied voluntarily by local law-enforcement agencies around the country to trace guns used in crimes back to a legal purchase. From there, they can discover whether someone illegally bought guns for other people.

First, the agency traces guns involved in crimes to the manufacturer. From there, they find the shop that first sold it, and the first buyer. Then comes the tricky part: ATF agents have to ask around to figure out how a gun moved from hand to hand.

The data that comes from those investigations is compiled in state-by-state annual reports known as “trace data” that show everything from which types of guns were used in crimes to where they came from.

While there are several limitations to the trace information, it’s the only information of its kind, said Dave Coulson, the Columbus ATF spokesman, adding that it’s “a powerful tool” that provides the bureau with information.

What are the loopholes?

Ohio lawmakers have taken few steps to expand state law further than required by federal law when it comes to guns — a move many other states have taken over the years, according to information from the Denver-based National Conference of State Legislatures, a bipartisan research group.

The Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a nonprofit advocacy group founded by attorneys who deem themselves experts on America’s gun laws, gives Ohio’s current law a “D” grade.

“In a lot of states, there are a few violent misdemeanors that would prevent someone from getting a gun,” Cutilletta said. “In Ohio, being disqualified for a previously committed crime relies on what the federal government already has. ... You’d essentially have to be a felon to be disqualified from owning a gun.”

Other examples of requirements not found in Ohio law:

• Licenses for gun-owners who want to sell their guns.

• Regulation of the number of guns someone can buy in a given timeframe.

• Restrictions on buying a gun in one day’s time. At least two states prohibit same-day purchases.

• Tracking of firearm sales. Gun shops are required to report sales only to the federal government.

• Background checks for all sales.

“When you make it easy to get a gun in a state, I mean, it’s just common sense that people will go there to get a gun, especially in frequent and large amounts,” Cutilletta said.

The law center used trace data to show that Ohio has been the top “interstate supplier” in the past of guns used in crimes in Michigan, where the laws are ranked better than Ohio’s with a “C” grade by the law center.

Home-grown trafficker

Former Columbus police officer Mark Andrew Nelson made thousands of dollars by illegally selling 500 guns at gun shows and from the trunk of his car in 2005.

One gun from his operation was linked to a triple homicide in Baltimore.

A student put another gun linked to Nelson to a student’s head at a high school in Maryland. A third was found next to a dead body in the backseat of a car in New Jersey.

Nelson was, by definition, a gun trafficker. He ran an operation that provided guns to people who otherwise wouldn’t be able to get them because they might not pass a background check.

Nelson will likely walk out of prison a free man before 2017, and many of the guns he illegally sold will still be on the streets when he does.

Could state laws have stopped Nelson and his affiliates?

“If Ohio had regulations on how many guns someone can buy in a year and kept track of firearm sales, gun traffickers who don’t have misdemeanors might get caught a bit earlier,” Cutilleta said, adding that if the state kept track of firearm sales, it might be able to step in before the federal government got around to it.

No law to address problem

Nelson didn’t go to prison for “gun trafficking.” He pleaded guilty to one count of lying on a government document about his intent for purchasing a firearm and was sentenced to 10 years in prison and a $2,000 fine.

The government uses that part of federal law to put away people involved in gun trafficking because there is no federal statute — or Ohio law — that makes it a crime to participate in gun-trafficking schemes.

“Right now, it’s more about the falsification of forms,” said Coulson, the ATF Columbus spokesman. “If you had knowledge that a gun was going to a felon, that charge could be tacked on, too.”

Some gun-control advocates argue that since law-enforcement officers have a working definition for gun trafficking, there should be a law making it a crime.

“A direct statute would give the federal government some powerful prosecuting tools,” said Cutilletta, the attorney for the law center. “At the state level ... if law enforcement knew they had a possible charge against someone that they could use to have someone be prosecuted, they could have more incentive to investigate. If the focus on an investigation has to be whether someone broke a procedural rule, it might be a harder time. It’s nicer to have a direct violation that they can look for.”

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine declined to comment on gun trafficking and the state’s gun laws. A spokesman for Gov. John Kasich said the governor’s office was looking at the new ATF report.

Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye State Firearms Association, said he’s against a statute directly outlining gun trafficking or straw purchasing as a crime, suggesting that the government could piece together existing statutes to put a trafficker or straw buyer away — as was done in Nelson’s case.

“If you’ve got A, B, C and D, I don’t think there’s a need for a thing that covers all of them,” Irvine said.

But regardless of what the gun-rights and gun-control lobbies say, the trace data show a trend with regard to Ohio gun ownership, Coulson said.

“Statistics are statistics. These are the down and dirty facts,” he said. “There are other people that need to take them to the next step.”

Joshua Jamerson is a fellow in Ohio University’s Statehouse News Bureau.

rssesq

They are violating are 4th amendment right to be free from unreasonable warrantless searches (google prism)
While they are simultaneously violating the 1st amend which guarantees freedom of the press (google James Rosen)

and you want me to lay down and give them my 2nd Amendment rights too. :nono:

Sheep

This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did in Russia in the 1920's.

mickeyrat

rssesq wrote:

They are violating are 4th amendment right to be free from unreasonable warrantless searches (google prism)
While they are simultaneously violating the 1st amend which guarantees freedom of the press (google James Rosen)

and you want me to lay down and give them my 2nd Amendment rights too. :nono:

Sheep

This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did in Russia in the 1920's.

what, no Nazi reference either?

nah, on second thought how about you exercise your 5th amendment right.

Cosmo

rssesq wrote:

They are violating are 4th amendment right to be free from unreasonable warrantless searches (google prism)
While they are simultaneously violating the 1st amend which guarantees freedom of the press (google James Rosen)

and you want me to lay down and give them my 2nd Amendment rights too. :nono:

Sheep

This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did in Russia in the 1920's.

...
Question: Didn't the Chief Justice Roberts Supreme Court determine that the phone data records belong to the phone companies, not the individual customers, back in 2006? I hope you were as angry then, as you are now. Otherwise, it makes you sound sort of like you are a part of the partisan divide in this country.
"An expert in this aspect of the law said Wednesday night that the order appears to be a routine renewal of a similar order first issued by the same court in 2006. The expert, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive issues, said that the order is reissued routinely every 90 days and that it is not related to any particular investigation by the FBI or any other agency.

The expert referred to such orders as “rubber stamps” sought by the telephone companies to protect themselves after the disclosure in 2005 that widespread warrantless wiretaps could leave them liable for damages.

The order falls under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which authorizes the government to make broad demands on telephone carriers for information about calls. In this case, the order requires Verizon to provide “ongoing, daily” information about “all call detail records . . . created by Verizon for communications between the United States and abroad; or wholly within the United States, including local telephone calls.” "

Question: How is this... a violation of the First Amendment?
"Court documents revealed in May that the Justice Department secured a search warrant for Rosen’s phone and email records while investigating a State Department leak about North Korea’s nuclear threats. The Justice Department obtained the search warrant by asserting that Rosen was a possible “aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator” in the alleged leak."

Question: Do you really believe that the Tzars in Russia... had a Bill of Rights prior to 1920?

brianlux

rssesq wrote:

They are violating are 4th amendment right to be free from unreasonable warrantless searches (google prism)
While they are simultaneously violating the 1st amend which guarantees freedom of the press (google James Rosen)

and you want me to lay down and give them my 2nd Amendment rights too. :nono:

Sheep

This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did in Russia in the 1920's.

Not me, I'm an old goat.

rssesq

A "secret" court granted that warrant and that Court has approved over 33,000 warrants and denied only 11 since 1979. Can you say fair and balanced?

SHEEP will be sheep

NEVER ME :nono:

Cosmo wrote:

rssesq wrote:

They are violating are 4th amendment right to be free from unreasonable warrantless searches (google prism)
While they are simultaneously violating the 1st amend which guarantees freedom of the press (google James Rosen)

and you want me to lay down and give them my 2nd Amendment rights too. :nono:

Sheep

This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did in Russia in the 1920's.

...
Question: Didn't the Chief Justice Roberts Supreme Court determine that the phone data records belong to the phone companies, not the individual customers, back in 2006? I hope you were as angry then, as you are now. Otherwise, it makes you sound sort of like you are a part of the partisan divide in this country.
"An expert in this aspect of the law said Wednesday night that the order appears to be a routine renewal of a similar order first issued by the same court in 2006. The expert, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive issues, said that the order is reissued routinely every 90 days and that it is not related to any particular investigation by the FBI or any other agency.

The expert referred to such orders as “rubber stamps” sought by the telephone companies to protect themselves after the disclosure in 2005 that widespread warrantless wiretaps could leave them liable for damages.

The order falls under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which authorizes the government to make broad demands on telephone carriers for information about calls. In this case, the order requires Verizon to provide “ongoing, daily” information about “all call detail records . . . created by Verizon for communications between the United States and abroad; or wholly within the United States, including local telephone calls.” "

Question: How is this... a violation of the First Amendment?
"Court documents revealed in May that the Justice Department secured a search warrant for Rosen’s phone and email records while investigating a State Department leak about North Korea’s nuclear threats. The Justice Department obtained the search warrant by asserting that Rosen was a possible “aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator” in the alleged leak."

Question: Do you really believe that the Tzars in Russia... had a Bill of Rights prior to 1920?

Godfather.

rssesq wrote:

They are violating are 4th amendment right to be free from unreasonable warrantless searches (google prism)
While they are simultaneously violating the 1st amend which guarantees freedom of the press (google James Rosen)

and you want me to lay down and give them my 2nd Amendment rights too. :nono:

Sheep

This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did in Russia in the 1920's.

the two members I assume you are talking to don't give a rats ass about our right to own guns they would rather scream like school girls about the death toll and masterbation :? and with simple minded reasoning have desided that taking guns away will make the world better and all the while their puppet of false phropet (obama) is supporting muslim terrorist's with guns and who knows what else,some people are just too simlpe minded to see the big picture...and they worrie about gun laws here. sheep is a perfect word to discribe these followers of blind obama followers.....well I feel better.

Godfather.

Godfather.

mickeyrat wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

Maybe so, but I gave an honest answer just the same.

...
Oh, I know... and I agree with you, 100%.
I just get tired of the typical gun-nut over-reaction that being in favor of a reasonable gun ownership law is tossed back as a frenzied, spastic regurgatation of NRA rhetoric. More like a Pavlovian reflex than a cognitive thought.
And... it is a baiting question.

well, he IS a master baiter!!!!

sounds like you should toss off a few to release a little of that stress and tention


Godfather.

Godfather.

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

what gun laws can be changed or improved on ? there are already back ground checks and in california it takes weeks before you can take your gun home.
you guys keep saying we need better laws but what do you want to change ?

Godfather.

...
Did you know that you can buy a gun at a Gun Show from a 'Private Person' and not have to pass any requirements other than having the correct amount of cash on you? you can walk away with that gun the minute the transaction is completed.
How about tightening up that loop hole for a starter?

sounds like a plan but I think that law changes from state to state....not sure.

Godfather.

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

...
Did you know that you can buy a gun at a Gun Show from a 'Private Person' and not have to pass any requirements other than having the correct amount of cash on you? you can walk away with that gun the minute the transaction is completed.
How about tightening up that loop hole for a starter?

sounds like a plan but I think that law changes from state to state....not sure.

Godfather.

...
How do you enforce someone from simply crossing state lines to get a gun to bypass background checks and waiting periods?
Like someone is a little loose in the head and extremely angry that crosses state lines to bypass all of the checkpoints. The loophole should be that the individual that sells the weapon must transfer it registration. But, do this on the Federal level, not with the states.

Godfather.

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

...
Did you know that you can buy a gun at a Gun Show from a 'Private Person' and not have to pass any requirements other than having the correct amount of cash on you? you can walk away with that gun the minute the transaction is completed.
How about tightening up that loop hole for a starter?

sounds like a plan but I think that law changes from state to state....not sure.

Godfather.

...
How do you enforce someone from simply crossing state lines to get a gun to bypass background checks and waiting periods?
Like someone is a little loose in the head and extremely angry that crosses state lines to bypass all of the checkpoints. The loophole should be that the individual that sells the weapon must transfer it registration. But, do this on the Federal level, not with the states.

if these were federal law and not state laws this would not be a problem, these kind of laws I can deal with just for saftey reasons, I don't want guns in the hands of wackos any more than you do but then there are some laws that are being pushed for that i don't agree with like the assult weapon ban, if the current laws were tightened up a bit and people would stop with the death toll report to make their point I would tend to agree in some areas of the gun debate but using a death report does not show gun issues it showes people issues.

Godfather.

mickeyrat

sorry for the delay. These 5 fuckwads and their fanclub had an announcement to make. Their servers are so excellent , I wasn't able to even load the fucking page. But anyway, here's the 4th weekend report. Number will seem larger due to the 4 days listed on the report.


http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07 ... h-edition/

It was a holiday weekend, which, as we’ve sadly learned in the months since we began the Gun Report, means an even more gruesome list of gun deaths and injuries than usual. Here is the one we want to highlight, however: On the evening of July 4, in Midlothian, Va., Brendon Mackey was walking with his father in the parking lot of a local restaurant where they had gone to see the fireworks. He suddenly fell to the ground. Nobody understood why at first; even after they saw blood, they thought he must have hit his head from the fall.

But in the hospital, doctors realized what had happened—he had been shot. Apparently, revelers some distance away had shot guns into the air to celebrate the 4th of July, and a bullet had landed in Mackey’s head. He died about three hours later. Mackey was 7 years old.

Here is today’s report.

—Joe Nocera

Thursday:

Jaden Donald, 5, was shot and critically wounded along with three others during a fireworks outing in Chicago’s Cooper Park on Thursday. The same day, Christian Lyles, 7, was shot twice in the neck in the Chatham neighborhood of Chicago. A teenage boy named Monquize Edwards was shot and killed after fireworks festivities in downtown Indianapolis, Ind., Thursday night. A shooting in Durham, N.C., left 17-year-old Dion Omari Williams dead late Wednesday.

Police say Omari Hoston was shot and wounded by his father, 59-year-old Alvis Dorsey, in Monroe, La., Thursday afternoon. Joshua J. Snapp, 17, was found shot and killed in the desert in Richland, Wash., early Thursday, and Joshua H. Hunt, 19, and John C. Young, 18, are accused of taking turns shooting him. Jamil Sarwar, 30, a New York Police Department officer, was shot while on foot patrol in the Cypress Hills section of Brooklyn, N.Y., late Thursday.

39-year-old Diallo Scott and his 34-year-old brother, Donald Scott, were found shot to death in a gang-related attack in Arcadia, Okla., Thursday afternoon. A man was shot in the leg near an intersection in the Ellwood Park/Monument neighborhood in East Baltimore, Md., early Thursday. A 17-year-old girl was accidentally shot in the arms when her grandfather was firing his handgun, which he believed contained blanks, at his house in northwest Baltimore, Md., Thursday night.

Denagelo Erquhart, 23, was shot and killed after an altercation in a bar in Huntington, W. Va., early Thursday. Two people were shot and wounded in Newburgh, N.Y., late Wednesday. A young man tossed out of a club for making anti-gay comments to patrons celebrating Gay Pride in Santa Rosa, Calif., early Wednesday pulled out a handgun and shot a 23-year-old bouncer. A woman was hit in the shoulder by a stray bullet outside a popular uptown Charlotte, N.C., bar Thursday night.

Burton W. Revish, 29, was wounded in a drive-by shooting in Petersburg, Va., Wednesday afternoon. A man was shot and wounded during an argument in Lake Charles, La., early Thursday. Denise Robertson, 51, was killed and Michael Robertson, 66, was injured in a shooting in Bethany, Ill., Thursday morning. 21-year-old Megan Sherrard and her 6-week-old son, Luca, were shot by the child’s father, 26-year-old Daniel Pinney, who was then killed by police in Calais, Maine, Wednesday evening.

James E. Starts III, 19, and Lashire M. Collins, 15, were found with gunshot wounds in the front yard of a home near an elementary school in Fort Wayne, Ind., Tuesday afternoon. One person was shot in Fort Wayne Thursday night. 23-year-old Brian Gibson was shot several times and killed in New Haven, Conn., Thursday afternoon. Ten hours later in New Haven, 19-year-old Errol Marshall was shot on a front porch and pronounced dead. Around the same time, just around the corner, 25-year-old Courtney Jackson was found with a gunshot wound to the stomach.

Joseph Puopolo, 27, an Army veteran who served in Afghanistan and wanted to join the state police, was shot and killed and a 28-year-old man was wounded during a botched drug deal at a friend’s home in Stoneham, Mass., early Wednesday. Darren E. Gay, 46, was killed outside a Shawnee, Kan., auction business during a custody exchange, and his son, Dalton Gay, 14, was arrested in the shooting Wednesday.

Dasean Lowe, 18, was shot and killed at the Arbor Place Apartments in Knoxville, Tenn., Wednesday night. A man was shot in the chest and wounded during a robbery outside a club in Harrisburg, Va., early Thursday. Larry Papach, 75, was shot with a semi-automatic handgun wielded by 19-year-old Nicholas Drust in Rice Township, Pa., Wednesday night. A 32-year-old man was shot in the face following a possible road rage attack early Friday in East Palo Alto, Calif.

A man called 911 and said he was shot while driving southbound on state Highway 360 near Arlington, Tex., Friday afternoon. A 21-year-old old man was injured in a shooting following an argument in Virginia Beach, Va., late Wednesday. Someone was shot in the stomach in Kansas City, Mo., Wednesday night. Two men were shot and wounded in the Over-the-Rhine neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, early Thursday. A gang-related shooting left one person wounded in west Visalia, Calif., Wednesday night, and a 19-year-old was arrested and charged.

Two people were injured in a shooting in Fort Pierce, Fla., Wednesday afternoon. A 21-year-old man was shot during an alleged attempted break-in at a Lawton, Okla., home Wednesday morning. A 32-year-old man was shot in the hand by a stray bullet on the west side of Rochester, N.Y., early Thursday. 24-year-old Oliver Martin was shot and killed in Wichita Falls, Tex., Wednesday night. 27-year-old Semarin Dubois was shot in the head and killed after someone opened fire into a crowd of nearly 100 people in Rockford, Ill., Thursday night.

Stephan L. Austin was shot and killed on the porch of a home on the northeast side of Columbus, Ohio, early Thursday. A shooting left one person dead and two people wounded at an apartment building in south Louisville, Ky., late Wednesday. Two men were wounded, one critically, after being shot in a parking area in front of the Cumberland Farms convenience store in Troy, N.Y., Thursday night. Dondrell Cage Jr., 16, died Wednesday evening, a day after being shot in a gun battle in Metairie, La.

Jean Luxama, 37, a taxi driver, was shot at point-blank range and wounded in Newark, N.J., Tuesday morning. 43-year-old Ron Derosin was found shot to death in the front yard of a home in Baton Rouge, La., Thursday morning. Two men were shot and wounded in the McGuire section of north Philadelphia, Pa., Thursday afternoon. A 39-year-old man and his 10-year-old son were shot and wounded in Charleston, Mo., Thursday afternoon. A 48-year-old man was shot and wounded in Poinciana, Fla., early Thursday.

A 19-year-old woman was shot and killed in Springfield, Mass., Thursday afternoon, and an aide to the police commissioner was arrested in the murder. A man was shot and killed inside an apartment building in Minneapolis, Minn., early Thursday. Two men were reported shot, one fatally, at a DeKalb County, Ga., home Thursday night. A man allegedly shot his daughter’s ex-husband and brother before taking his own life in northwest Harris County, Tex., Thursday night.

25-year-old Ricky Lewis Etheridge was shot in his lower back after a brief fight in Elizabeth City, N.C., late Wednesday. 32-year-old Eugene Sanchez was killed and his brother Johnny was wounded in a shooting at a Natalia, Tex., intersection Thursday night. A 21-year-old woman was shot to death in a west Modesto, Calif., neighborhood late Thursday, around the corner from where a 21-year-old man was found with a fatal gunshot wound earlier in the day.

A man was shot and wounded by his sister’s former boyfriend in Ontario, Calif., Thursday afternoon. Tyreek Fairel, 19, was shot in the head and killed and a 19-year-old man was shot in the hand when their vehicle came under fire in East Norristown, Pa., Thursday evening. A man in his 20s was shot in the foot in a downtown San Antonio, Tex., bar following a fight late Thursday. One person was killed and another is in critical condition after a shooting in the parking lot of the Red Roof Inn in Norcross, Ga., Thursday night.

Brian Walker was shot in the head and killed behind the Fast Franks in Inkster, Mich., Thursday night, and in a separate shooting two hours later, a man was shot in the chest and killed and a woman was wounded. A boy was shot and wounded Thursday night while walking with friends in Tulsa, Okla. Three people were injured in an apparent drive-by shooting in Norwalk, Conn., Thursday night. Two people were shot, one fatally, inside a car in Stone Mountain, Ga., Thursday night.

Carter Waid Worsley, 53, was shot in the leg by Thea Kay Porter, 56, after he violated a protective order and refused to leave Porter’s Roanoke, Va., home Thursday night. Police say Markel Young, 21, was shot by his 17-year-old brother, Datrilveyon Moore, after an argument that began over a pair of shoes in Humboldt, Tenn., Thursday night. A shooting shortly after the Williamsport, Pa., fireworks display concluded Thursday night wounded a 16-year-old boy and a 19-year-old man.

34-year-old Derrick Wren was shot in the head and killed in East St. Louis, Ill., Thursday. A 13-year-old boy was shot and wounded in Memphis, Tenn., Thursday night. Mustafa Abushi, 28, was found shot to death inside his car and a man and a woman were wounded in separate shootings in a three-hour span late Thursday and early Friday in East Oakland, Calif. 58-year-old Willie Oliver was shot and killed at a motel in Turbeville, S.C., Wednesday.

A stray bullet fired in a shooting in downtown Bridgeport, Conn., struck a 24-year-old pregnant woman in the neck early Thursday. A gunman opened fire at a crowd of several hundred spectators at an informal July 4th fireworks show hosted by a local party store in Pontiac, Mich., killing a 33-year-old father and injuring his two children and four others Thursday night.

Friday:

Five separate shootings in Brooklyn and the Bronx, N.Y., left five wounded and two dead Friday. Timothy J. Howell, 19, was found shot to death outside a house in north Omaha, Neb., early Friday, and Spencer Mason, 20, was shot and injured. A few hours earlier in Omaha, Cynthia Hall, 39, was shot and wounded. A man in his 20s was killed and a 21-year-old woman was injured in a gang-related shooting outside The Mayan Club in Las Vegas, Nev., early Friday.

Robert Douglas was shot in the stomach and found lying on the sidewalk next to Roby’s Night Club in Toledo, Ohio, early Friday. A 29-year-old man was shot multiple times in Hazelton, Pa., early Friday. A man is in critical condition after a shooting at Bernie’s Bungalow Lounge in Anchorage, Alaska, early Friday. A 24-year-old man was killed and three other men were injured in a shooting outside a bar in San Francisco’s Mission District early Friday.

Paulino “Paul” Venancio-Lopez, 33, was killed and 22-year-old Omar Merino-Lopez was injured in a shooting at Red Sunset Park in Gresham, Ore., Friday night. Police say 20-year-old Brieanna Bell was shot and killed by 26-year-old Brandon Berkley outside a Food Lion in Hampton, Va., Friday afternoon. Elroy Schneck, 41, who was wounded Tuesday in a car-to-car shooting on the 110 Freeway in south Los Angeles, died of his injuries Friday.

A 20-year-old man was found shot and killed in a home in south Atlanta, Ga., early Friday, and a fair amount of drugs were found on the scene. Christopher Raynard Bean was shot multiple times with an automatic handgun and killed outside the Village Oaks Apartments in the east Oak Cliff district of Dallas, Tex., Friday night. A man in his mid-20s is in critical condition after being shot several times in the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston, Mass., Friday night, and in a separate attack a short time later, a man in his 30s was shot and wounded.

Four people were injured, one seriously, when someone pulled up to a large crowd in Florence, Ala., and started shooting early Friday. A woman and two men were shot outside club Euphoria in downtown Louisville, Ky., early Friday. A 35-year-old man was shot and killed at the Fair Oaks Public Housing Complex in Danville, Ill., early Friday. 21-year-old Christopher Vazquez was shot and killed Friday morning after a house party at a residence in southeastern Colorado Springs, Colo.

A 20-year-old man was injured Friday after numerous shots were fired at his West Valley City, Utah, home in an apparent “walk-by shooting” Friday morning. A 22-year-old bystander was hit by gunfire in downtown Savannah, Ga., early Friday. A 17-year was killed and three men were wounded in a shooting that began as a fight inside a Macon, Ga., nightclub early Friday. A 20-year-old man was killed and a 23-year-old man was critically injured after a shooting following a party in Providence, R.I., early Friday.

A 21-year-old man was shot in the buttocks in Springfield, Mass., early Friday. A 32-year-old man was shot in the face in a possible road-rage incident in East Palo Alto, Calif., early Friday. Stephen Humphries, 21, drove to the hospital after being shot in an attempted robbery in the Institute area of Charleston, W. Va., Thursday afternoon. Chris Tartt and Jerome Pryor were shot and wounded by a man who fired bullets through the door of a bar in Donora, Pa., early Friday.

A 26-year-old man was shot and killed in the Algiers community of New Orleans, La., Friday. Three people were shot outside a club in Flint, Mich., early Friday, a few hours after three men were shot in separate incidents elsewhere in the city. Also in Flint on Wednesday night, a woman was hit by a bullet in a drive-by shooting. In Chicago, six people were killed by gunshots Wednesday night into Thursday morning: 26-year-old Ernest McMullen, two men in their 20s, a man in his mid-30s, a 21-year-old man, and an unidentified man.

An 18-year-old man was shot and wounded in McKeesport, Pa., Friday night. Jonathan Young, 26, was shot in the neck and Dominique Holton, 21, was shot multiple times in the parking lot of the Stellar Center in Brunswick, Ga., early Friday. Jose Rosado, 19, was shot in the foot in New London, Conn., early Friday. A 22-year-old man was shot several times in a shooting in Rochester, N.Y., early Friday, and a short time later, a man was shot by someone he suspected of stealing his bicycle.

Someone sustained at least one gunshot wound to the cheek in Greenville, S.C., Friday morning. Ladarius Daniel, 21, was killed and Dedrick Hall, 32, was injured in a shooting in the parking lot of an event hall in Chattanooga, Tenn., early Friday. A 20-year-old man walked into an emergency room after being shot in Worcester, Mass., early Friday. Scott Vaughn was shot in the leg after a car-to-car gunfight following an argument in Cabell County, W. Va., early Friday.

An unidentified person was shot and wounded during a home invasion in Norfolk, Va., early Friday. An unidentified man was found suffering from two gunshot wounds behind the wheel of a pickup truck in Marrero, La., early Friday. 27-year-old Richard Mendoza was shot several times and wounded at an Amarillo, Tex., nightclub early Friday. John Coates, 25, was shot and killed at the Oakleigh Apartment complex in East Baton Rouge, La., early Friday.

Two male teens, ages 17 and 18, were shot around the block from a downtown Milwaukee, Wis., tavern early Friday. Leon Watkins, 19, a college basketball player, suffered multiple gunshot wounds to the head and upper body during an argument near his St. Louis, Mo., home Thursday night. Three men walked up to a homeless camp and shot a man to death and seriously injured another in downtown Fresno, Calif., Friday night.

Two men were shot and wounded on a Moreno Valley, Calif., street early Friday. A woman was hospitalized with knife and bullet wounds after a disturbance at a Bogalusa, La., residence early Friday. A 21-year-old man was shot in the hand, pelvis and thigh when someone exited a vehicle and opened fire in the North City section of St. Louis, Mo., late Friday. Police say Lakeisha Vannison was shot and killed by her boyfriend during an argument in Baltimore, Md., Friday afternoon.

40-year-old Julius Jacobs was shot and killed after fighting with three other men in Ocala, Fla., Friday night. An unidentified 21-year-old man was found shot to death in the middle of a Columbus, Ohio, street Friday afternoon. Elsewhere in Columbus, Ahman Suliman, a 20-year-old store clerk, was shot two hours later as he broke up a fight in a parking lot. About 10 hours later in Columbus, 25-year-old Mikal J. Kirkland died of gunshot wounds.

26-year-old Carl S. Bost was found dead with multiple gunshot wounds in the front yard of a Gallatin, Tenn., home Friday night. A 57-year-old man with multiple gunshot wounds drove himself to a Fort Wayne, Ind., hospital Friday morning. 28-year-old Emmanuel Abram Sneed Sanders was shot twice and killed at his Gastonia, N.C., home early Friday. A 20-year-old woman was shot in the chest in a drive-by shooting at Kerry Park in the Queen Anne neighborhood of Seattle, Wash., early Friday.

Saturday:

A 48-year-old man is dead and six other people, including a 72-year-old woman, have been wounded in a shooting in the Garfield Park neighborhood on the West Side of Chicago, Ill., Saturday. Justin King, 27, was killed and another man was injured in a shooting in a Baton Rouge, La., home early Saturday. A man was shot in the upper body after reports of people shooting at each other from an apartment building parking lot in Madison Township, Ohio, Saturday night.

Rodney Smith, 21, was found dying of gunshot wounds inside a vehicle at a Marathon gas station in the Madisonville neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, early Saturday. 40-year-old John Thomas Brown was shot and killed after an argument escalated to gunfire in Hampton, Va., late Saturday. Mikal J. Kirkland, 25, was killed and Devon D. Skelton, 28, was injured in a shooting outside an illegal after-hours club on the east side of Columbus, Ohio, early Saturday.

An apparently homeless man is in the hospital after a business owner shot him after an argument in Phoenix, Ariz., early Saturday. One person was shot and killed on the northwest side of Indianapolis, Ind., Saturday morning. A man was shot in the side at an intersection in the Mid-City neighborhood of New Orleans, La., early Saturday. 23-year-old Quinton Thomas was fatally wounded by an unidentified gunman at a house party in northwest Mobile, Ala., late Friday, and another man was seriously wounded.

Justin King, 27, was shot multiple times and killed inside his home and a 22-year-old man was seriously injured in Baton Rouge, La., Saturday morning. A 23-year-old man was shot and killed in West Oakland, Calif., Saturday morning. A man shot in East Los Angeles, Calif., Thursday night succumbed to his injuries on Saturday. Annette Plater, 46, was found shot to death in a car parked under a light pole on an Omaha, Neb., street early Saturday.

Chauna Kota was shot in the leg in a home in Elko, Nev., early Saturday. A 12-year-old girl was hit by a stray bullet after two men argued and began shooting at each other in the East Price Hill neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, Saturday evening. A woman and two men were wounded in a shooting that stemmed from a fight in downtown Richmond, Va., early Saturday. A man was shot in the hip with a .22-caliber rifle at a bonfire in Springport, Mich., early Saturday.

16-year-old Kelmyne Jones was fatally shot after a fight involving several young men in a Buffalo, N.Y., street Saturday afternoon. A man in his 60s was found shot to death in his Atlanta, Ga., home Saturday afternoon. Mario Lopez, 18, was killed and three boys, ages 13, 14 and 15, were wounded in a shooting in front of the Marcy Houses in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn, N.Y., Saturday. An 84-year-old man shot and injured two deputies in Craigsville, W. Va., Saturday, barricading himself in his house with a weapon before police killed him.

Three people were shot on a Roselle, N.J., street corner Saturday afternoon. One person was shot during a home invasion in Belleville, Ill., led to a chase and a standoff early Saturday. A teenager was fatally shot in the Hamlin Park neighborhood of Buffalo, N.Y., Saturday afternoon. A man was shot while trying to vandalize some apartments on the east side of Columbus, Ohio, Saturday. A man in his late teens or early twenties was found with multiple gunshot wounds to his leg in New Hanover County, N.C., Saturday.

One person was injured when two men entered a Greensboro, N.C., residence and began shooting early Saturday. A man was shot after an argument with an acquaintance escalated to gunfire in Norristown, Pa., early Saturday. Curtis Stanford Jr., 29, was shot to death near Findlay Market in Cincinnati, Ohio, late Saturday. A 19-year-old man was shot in the back and right shoulder and a second male, 35, was grazed by a bullet along his lower back in Philadelphia, Pa., Saturday afternoon.

A 36-year-old man was shot in the torso and wounded on the west side of Rochester, N.Y., early Saturday. A man was killed and seven others were wounded, including a 72-year-old woman, in a gang-related drive-by shooting on Chicago’s West Side Saturday evening. Tyree Louis Simmons, 23, was shot and killed during an altercation in the yard of a home in Goldsboro, N.C., Saturday night. A 24-year-old man was shot three times and a 25-year-old man was shot twice while riding bicycles in Asbury Park, N.J., early Saturday.

An unidentified person was shot three times in the parking lot of a gas station in northwest Albuquerque, N.M., Saturday night. A shooting outside the Casa Miranda Apartments in southwest Houston, Tex., left a man dead and a woman hospitalized Saturday night. 35-year-old Marvin Bickling was found suffering from a fatal gunshot wound at a storage shed facility in Frostburg, Md., Saturday evening.

28-year-old Curtis Williams was shot and killed in the doorway of his St. Louis, Mo., home Saturday night. 29-year-old Curtis Stanford Jr. was shot multiple times in the head in Over-the-Rhine, Ohio, Saturday night. A man was shot in the leg outside Miss Tracy’s Liquor Store in Grand Rapids, Mich., Saturday night.

Sunday:

Vincente Flores, 28, and Osmia Flores, 30, who were involved in an argument outside a gas station in Dallas, Tex., were shot and killed early Sunday. Police in Austin, Tex., say a woman was shot in the hand during a disturbance involving at least two vehicles early Sunday. Barrett Milam, 20, was shot in the face and critically injured in Clay County, Fla., early Sunday. Joshua Childs, 23, was shot and killed at a domino table in the middle of a game in the driveway of a home in Pompano Beach, Fla., early Sunday.

An unidentified man was found dead of a gunshot wound in Kansas City, Mo., Sunday evening. A 30-year-old man was shot in the parking lot of the Crazy Horse in downtown Cleveland, Ohio, early Sunday. One person was hospitalized after a shooting in west Columbus, Ohio, early Sunday. Vaughn Kemp, 24, was shot and killed when shots rang out at a party in the backyard of a home in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., early Sunday.

36-year-old Lamar Pondexter and 34-year-old James Lipford were killed in separate shootings around Pittsburgh, Pa., early Sunday. A woman in her 20s was shot in the head and killed and a man in his 20s was shot in the knee in Camden, N.J., early Sunday. A man was found shot to death next to a bullet-ridden car on the northeast side of San Antonio, Tex., early Sunday. An hour and a half earlier in San Antonio, a man was grazed in the back of his head with a bullet after a fight with two men.

A 57-year-old man was found on the street bleeding from fatal gunshot wounds in the Glen Park neighborhood of Gary, Ind., early Sunday. A man was shot in the leg and killed in Harlem, N.Y., early Sunday. A 29-year-old man died after a shooting in Fremont, Ind., early Sunday. A man opened fire on a crowd of people in front of a nightclub in east Houston, Tex., early Sunday, wounding two women.

A woman was fatally shot during a handgun class at Ukumehame Firing Range in Maui Sunday afternoon. Thirty-seven-year-old Ray Robinson Jr. was wounded in a drive-by shooting on Interstate 80 in Omaha, Neb., Sunday morning. A man was shot and killed at a Lubbock, Tex., nightclub early Sunday. In three separate shootings in Baltimore, Md., Sunday, a 29-year old man suffered a gunshot wound to his stomach, a 33-year-old was shot in the leg and an unidentified man was shot several times and wounded.

Four people were shot with three handguns in downtown Meridian, Miss., early Sunday. 29-year-old Braylon Hardeman, 27-year-old Darnell Matthews, 22-year-old Delvonne Cross and 31-year-old Rodney Landrum showed up at a hospital in Omaha, Neb., with gunshot wounds early Sunday. Seven people were treated for gunshot wounds after a club shooting in Laredo, Tex., early Sunday. A shooting in Longview, Tex., left a man dead and a woman hospitalized Sunday night.

Xavier A. Monroe, 25, was shot in the chest and killed in the parking lot of the Eclipse Lounge in Gulfport, Miss., early Sunday. One person was hospitalized as a result of a drive-by shooting at Ms. Sylvia’s Sandwich Shop and Pool Tables in north Charleston, W. Va., early Sunday. One person is in stable condition after being shot in the back at Karma nightclub in Lafayette, La., early Sunday. Quinton Qortez Sims, 24, and LaShon Nichol Stewart, 20, were shot and wounded after a fight in Topeka, Kan., early Sunday.

A man was shot and killed beneath a carport outside a southwest Houston, Tex., townhouse complex early Sunday. One person was hurt after a shooting on the east side of Fort Worth, Tex., Sunday morning. Two people were injured in separate shootings in Saginaw, Mich., early Sunday. A man was shot and wounded at the Hilltop Market in the City Heights public housing complex in Covington, Ohio, Sunday afternoon.

A 12-year-old boy sustained a graze wound to his leg in a drive-by shooting in Charlotte, N.C., Sunday afternoon. Police also found a man suffering from a gunshot wound elsewhere in Charlotte Sunday. A 16-year-old boy was hit in the leg after two cars shot at each other in Wilmington, N.C., Sunday afternoon.

A 19-year-old man was killed and a 22-year-old was wounded in a shooting in the Back of the Yards neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago Sunday afternoon. Five people were shot in Chicago’s Roseland neighborhood Sunday evening in what is believed to be a landlord-tenant dispute. In total, 74 people were shot since Wednesday afternoon in Chicago, 12 of them fatally.

According to Slate’s gun-death tracker, an estimated 5,845 people have died as a result of gun violence in America since the Newtown massacre on December 14, 2012.

mickeyrat

http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07 ... ly-9-2013/

Andy Murray just made history as the first British man to win Wimbledon since 1936. But this isn’t the first time he’s found himself at the center of an international news story.

When he was 8, Murray’s Scottish elementary school was the scene of a horrific mass shooting—the Dunblane massacre. 15 five-year-olds and a 6-year-old were shot and killed along with their teacher by 43-year-old Thomas Hamilton, a store owner and former youth club leader who entered the school armed with four handguns. It remains one of the deadliest criminal acts involving firearms in British history and inspired sweeping gun legislation, which effectively made private ownership of handguns illegal in the U.K.

In the BBC documentary “Andy Murray: The Man Behind the Racket,” which aired this week, Murray, who has been described by the British press as a stoic figure, broke down in tears as he recalled hiding under a desk and sheltering his brother as shots rang out. “You have no idea how tough something like that is,” he said, gripping his dog for support while trying to contain his emotions.

His mother, Judy Murray, is just as traumatized by the massacre 17 years ago. “I was one of hundreds of mums that were queuing up at the school gates waiting to find out what had happened, not knowing if your children were alive or not,” she recalled, adding that, even now, she cannot go near the building where the murders took place.

Murray’s victory has given Dunblane reason to celebrate—and feel empowered once again. “It’s just nice being able to do something the town is proud of,” he said. Indeed, after Sunday’s stunning victory, one resident told the Guardian, “Andy’s exorcised a ghost in Dunblane.”

Here is today’s report.

—Jennifer Mascia

Ray-twon Briggs, 4, died after being shot in his home on the north side of Youngstown, Ohio, Sunday night. Briggs’s grandmother told police the boy was playing with one of three handguns in the house when he fatally shot himself in the head. Two other children, ages 1 and 5, were also in the room. The boy’s parents were not home at the time of the shooting.

—WKBN

Three people, including a 15-year-old boy, were shot to death in separate incidents on the West Side of Chicago, Ill., Monday afternoon. The 15-year-old victim was playing a ball game at the playground of Laura Ward Elementary School at about 5:08 p.m. when he was shot in the chest. In the Lawndale neighborhood, a woman in her 20s or 30s was declared dead after being shot multiple times. In West Garfield Park, a man in his 20s was killed in a drive-by shooting at a gas station at about 3:20 p.m.

—Chicago Tribune

A man shot and killed himself at a northwest Houston, Tex., shooting range on July 4. The body of Oliver Griffin was found by an employee of Shiloh Indoor Shooting Range sometime before 6 p.m. The sheriff’s office is investigating.

—Houston Chronicle

A love triangle sparked a shooting in Summit, Wash., Monday morning. The victim, a 52-year-old man, became convinced that the shooter, 55, was having relations with his wife. So the victim camped out in a car and confronted the other man, who shot him in the chest and leg.

—KOMONews.com

A man was killed and three others were wounded after gunfire erupted outside a party in the Athens Village neighborhood of Los Angeles, Calif., early Monday. Investigators say the four victims were hit in a drive-by shooting just past midnight. Police are searching for suspects.

—KABC-TV

A man is in critical condition after being shot in a parked car in west Denver, Colo., Monday afternoon. Officers think the shooter may have stolen multiple vehicles to get away.

—CBS Denver

Two men are in critical condition after they were found suffering from gunshot wounds in an SUV parked at an apartment complex in Newport News, Va., Monday afternoon. Police are soliciting tips.

—PilotOnline.com

A man shot in East Oakland, Calif., on July 4 has died from his wounds. Mortesse Wayne, 23, died Saturday morning at Highland Hospital, where he was on life support since the shooting. No motive has been established and no arrests have been made.

—MercuryNews.com

Velacita M. Jones, 39, was shot and killed at a Hardees restaurant in Hopewell, Va., Monday morning. Police have charged Joseph Lemue Green, 62, with murder. Jones was an employee at the restaurant and had a previous relationship with Green.

—TimesDispatch.com

A 27-year-old man was shot and wounded when someone opened fire on the car in which he was riding on Interstate 8 in the Mission Valley area of San Diego, Calif., early Monday. Investigators have no description of the shooter and no motive for the attack.

—U-T San Diego

Vikitha Marcel Briggs, 44, and Johnny Floyd Graham, 57, were shot and killed at a Courtyard Marriott in Panama City, Fla., Sunday night. The shooting suspect is identified as 51-year-old Glen Llewellyn Briggs, who was married to the female victim. The two had been residing at separate residences. The shooter was later killed by police.

—WJHG.com

Rakim Willis, 24, was shot in the right arm and Precious Adams, 19, was injured by flying glass during a shooting at a restaurant in Columbus, Ohio, Monday evening. Police said a passenger in a red vehicle pulled up to the restaurant and opened fire. Police are soliciting tips.

—10TV.com

Martavious Arnold, 31, and Glen Simley, 28, were killed on the South Side of Columbus, Ohio, Sunday night. Police said the men were in a northbound car when they were shot. Arnold, the driver, died at 10:43 p.m. Simley died at 2:26 a.m. Police said they were looking for three youths who ran from the scene.

—The Columbus Dispatch

Kenneth K. Sparks was shot in the face and killed in the driveway of a home in Delmar, Md., Sunday night. Police believe the shooting, which followed an argument, is domestic. Eddie Savage Jr., 29, is in custody. Less than 24 hours later, there was another fatal shooting in Wicomico County, the second this year.

—Delmarva.com

Two people were injured in a shooting in Mount Oliver, Pa., just before noon Monday. One of the victims was able to drive himself to the hospital, but there is no word on the other victim’s condition. Neighbors in the area believe the violence was the result of an ongoing feud between two families.

—CBS Pittsburgh

A drive-by shooting left William A. Wallis Jr., 33, dead and Andrew R. Gustafson, 33, fighting for his life in Rockford, Ill., Monday evening. Police found the two victims near a green pickup truck parked by a curb in Arcadia Terrace. Witnesses said one of the shooting victims tried to run from the truck after he was shot. Police are searching for suspects.

—RRStar.com

22-year-old David Mark Collins was shot and killed at an east Athens, Ohio, apartment complex Sunday night. 23-year-old Anthony Gray Coleman Jr., who was wounded in the shooting, showed up at a local hospital seeking treatment for his injuries. Police have not released a motive for the shootings, in which 10 shots were reportedly fired.

—OnlineAthens.com

A woman was found lying on the floor of a West Palm Beach, Fla., bar suffering from gunshot wounds Sunday night. Victor Martinez, the confessed shooter, has been charged with attempted first degree murder.

—WPTV.com

A man accidentally shot his girlfriend in the chest in San Antonio, Tex., early Monday. Investigators said the victim, who was critically wounded, was trying to stop her current boyfriend from shooting his ex-girlfriend. The man will be held criminally responsible.

—KHOU

Melvin Kenyetta Scott, 29, was killed and another person was injured after a domestic shooting at Woodland Hills apartments in Troy, Ala., early Monday. Tiffany R. Upshaw, 24, has been charged with murder. A relative said Upshaw fired in self defense.

—TroyMessenger.com

Elizabeth Cooper, 30, was shot several times and killed and a 24-year-old man was shot in the leg and wounded in Camden, N.J., early Sunday. Police are soliciting tips.

—NJ.com

According to Slate’s gun-death tracker, an estimated 5,933 people have died as a result of gun violence in America since the Newtown massacre on December 14, 2012.


Huh, 88 people died in a day.

Godfather.

Illinois became the last state in the nation to allow public possession of concealed guns as lawmakers rushed Tuesday to finalize a proposal ahead of a federal court's deadline.

Both chambers of the Legislature voted to override changes Gov. Pat Quinn made to the bill they approved more than a month ago. Even some critics of the law argued it was better to approve something rather than risk the courts allowing virtually unregulated concealed weapons in Chicago, which has endured severe gun violence in recent months.

The Senate voted 41-17 in favor of the override Tuesday afternoon after the House voted 77-31, margins that met the three-fifths threshold needed to set aside the amendatory veto. Quinn had used his veto authority to suggest changes such as prohibiting guns in restaurants that serve alcohol and limiting gun-toting citizens to one firearm at a time.



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Godfather.

mickeyrat

as to the bold, how fucking calloused and heartless do you have to be to own a gun?
http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09 ... 2013/?_r=0

How did a coffee shop become a lightning rod for gun policy?

In August, Second Amendment supporters carried their firearms into a Starbucks in Newtown, Conn., for “Starbucks Appreciation Day,” prompting that location to close five hours early. “We recognize there is significant passion surrounding the topic,” read a sign posted on the front of the store. “However, we believe people should be sensitive to our community.”

The purpose of the stunt was to thank the company for allowing open-carry firearms in their stores, in accordance with local and state gun laws. But a few months prior, while waiting in line at a Starbucks in St. Petersburg, Fla, a woman accidentally shot her friend in the leg when she dropped her purse, which held a fully loaded .25-caliber semi-automatic handgun.

Yesterday, Starbucks chief executive Howard Schultz attempted to diffuse the issue by writing an open letter asking customers to please leave their guns at home, unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel. The reason, he wrote, was because “we believe our store partners should not be put in the uncomfortable position of requiring customers to disarm or leave our stores.” He also asked that “Starbucks Appreciation Days” come to an end. “The presence of a weapon in our stores is unsettling and upsetting for many of our customers,” he wrote, which undermines the relaxing atmosphere he is trying to create.

However, Schultz conceded that his plea “is a request and not an outright ban,” because “enforcing a ban would potentially require our partners to confront armed customers.” And this only applies to guns displayed openly. Concealed-carry firearms are still permitted.

Here is today’s report.

—Jennifer Mascia

Two men were shot and wounded in La Jolla, Calif., early Wednesday. Steven Dowdy, 53, a biologist and the suspected shooter’s former business partner, and Ron Fletcher, 50, the suspect’s estranged brother-in-law, were shot in their homes at around 3 a.m. Fletcher was able to grab hold of the .45-caliber weapon and clobbered his attacker in the head. Hans A. Petersen, 49, a biotech executive who helmed several start-up companies, was arrested on suspicion of attempted homicide.

—U-T San Diego

Vivian Gallego Martinez, 51, and her daughter Anabel Benitez, 28, were shot and killed in a home in Miami, Fla., Wednesday morning. The suspect, 48-year-old Antonio Feliu, led police on a chase that resulted in a woman’s death in a car crash. The suspect eventually died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

—CBS Miami

Three serious shootings occurred within an hour in Indianapolis, Ind., Wednesday night, leaving each of their victims in critical condition. One of the victims was shot multiple times on the city’s east side at around 9 p.m., another victim was shot in the chest at 10 p.m., and at the same time a woman was shot multiple times on the city’s northeast side. There is no word as to whether the three shootings are connected.

—TheINDYChannel

A mother of five was found shot to death inside a home on the west side of Rockford, Ill., Wednesday afternoon. The woman, 27, was found bleeding to death at a duplex just after 4:00 p.m. Police are questioning a person of interest.

—WIFR.com

One person was killed and three others were critically injured when two cars pulled up to a crowd of people outside an apartment building and someone inside opened fire in the Whitehaven community of Memphis, Tenn., Wednesday night. Another shooting victim may be in a nearby wooded area. The victims were reportedly related.

—WREG

Two men, ages 43 and 56, shot each other dead during a road rage incident in Ionia, Mich., Wednesday evening. After being followed by a Ford Taurus, the driver of a PT Cruiser pulled off the road to let the car pass, but the driver of the Taurus got out of his car and began shooting. The driver of the PT Cruiser also pulled out a gun, returning fire, and both drivers were killed.

—WZZM 13

A teenager was shot in the leg during an altercation stemming from a street basketball game in Hermitage, Tenn., Wednesday evening. Two others were grazed by ricocheting bullets. Police detained a person of interest after stopping a car that left the scene.

—The Tennessean

A man was shot in the leg and wounded when he and two sheriff’s deputies tried to serve an eviction notice in a gated community in San Ramon, Calif., Wednesday afternoon. The alleged shooter surrendered after a four-hour standoff with a SWAT team.

—CBS San Francisco

A 43-year-old man was shot multiple times and wounded in his car in Waterbury, Conn., Wednesday night. Police are searching for the suspect, who fled the scene on foot.

—WTNH.com

A 55-year-old man was killed and 33-year-old man was injured following a shooting in northwest Phoenix, Ariz., Wednesday afternoon. Police received a call from a 60-year-old woman who said her boyfriend and son were shot. No word on what led to the shooting.

—AZFamily.com

An exchange of gunfire between two groups of people in Dayton, Ohio, left a 25-year-old man in critical condition Wednesday night. Witnesses told police the groups had been chasing each other through the neighborhood. No one has been taken into custody.

—WHIOTV.com

A man was wounded in a shooting in south Seattle, Wash., Wednesday morning. Police say the victim was shot after getting into an argument with a group of men while he was smoking marijuana at a neighborhood park. The wounded man has been uncooperative with police. Officers found about 25 shell casings at the scene.

—The Seattle Times

A 22-year-old man was shot twice and wounded in the Gentilly neighborhood of New Orleans, La., Wednesday afternoon. No further information is available.

—Nola.com

42-year-old Daryle Mosley was shot in the leg and wounded in Decatur, Ala., Tuesday evening. 18-year-old Jaylen Williams was arrested and charged with second-degree assault. The victim and suspect apparently knew each other. No word on a motive.

—AL.com

A 27-year-old man was dropped off at a house and shot multiple times in the Sheraden neighborhood of Pittsburgh, Pa., Tuesday night. Police found about 30 shell casings in the area. The victim could lose a leg and part of his intestines, and suffered damage to his spine. Lenell Ptomey, 30, was charged with attempted homicide. Police said the shooting may be drug-related.

—TribLive

Houston Hale Parker, 31, was discovered lying dead at an Ensley, Fla., intersection Wednesday afternoon. A neighbor heard three shots. “When the sun goes down, I go in my house,” said 83-year-old Ozella Betts, who said the neighborhood became dangerous five years ago. Police are investigating.

—PNJ.com

A 29-year-old man suffered a gunshot wound to the head in Athens, Ohio, Tuesday afternoon. The victim is unable to talk to investigators.

—AthensOhioToday.com

A teenaged boy was shot and wounded in the parking lot of a Chick-Fil-A in Jonesboro, Ark., Wednesday night. Police said they are not seeking a suspect.

—KAIT 8

Juan Jesus Garcia, 22, was found dead in a convenience store parking lot in Moses Lake, Wash., Tuesday night. A 23-year-old woman and six-year-old boy were in the victim’s car when he was shot, but were not wounded. Police are searching for Anthony R. Vasquez, 23.

—The Spokesman-Review

According to Slate’s gun-death tracker, an estimated 8,290 people have died as a result of gun violence in America since the Newtown massacre on December 14, 2012.

Lets see, since the last time I posted in here there have been 2357 estimated deaths in this country. That would be 2300 DEAD people in 2 months and 10 days. Let freedom ring!!!!

aerial

Abortion tops all death counts.

http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php

mickeyrat

Thread integrity please. Abortion isn't this threads topic. Post that elsewhere. Thank you.

unsung

If i do decide to go to starbucks I will still be carrying. Letter or no letter.