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pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
edited July 2013 in The Porch
if there is a lottery for a new tour, hopefully the lotto is done and doesn't come back. but if the bullshit lotto comes back, anyone interested in betting on if they will win the lotto or not for the shows they pick? I am interested in betting with people, on this if lottery is back and anyone is interested. figure instead of being disappointed and losing 10c lotto maybe we can win some $ on the side then. lottery is total bullshit people been members for 15 years go to 100 shows cant get a ticket, then fuckin people who just joined win the lottery. they need to get rid of lottery, and go back to how they used to do it , in 2000 they let you pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show only, then riot act I gue ss they had more you oculd pick pair for as many shows as you wanted.

both were way more fair than 10c lottery. please don't bring back the lottery. I buy lottery tickets and don't win, wtf would I think id win on 10c lottery? it like im just wasting $ on 10c membership if it gonna be lottery forever now, how often will I win a lottery? im already like 0 for 6 or 7 on London and Chicago total bullshit then I leave the country, and they announced more tickets for London now. that why you should announce tours in advance like you used to not just two months in advance, the old tours had like 6 months notice. I remember fuckin waiting for tickets in line in late march, for an October show in montreal for the year 1998. that was plently of notice, why does pj lat few tours announced at last minute for? new management? less dates so they book shit later now, I don't know just get rid of lottery and play a real tour please not just 2 shows
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    pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
    no vegas show since 2006 is retarded, because last time pj played vegas they said they be back soon :lol:
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    8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    gambling on the lotto :lol::lol::lol:

    they should do ping pong balls...
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    backseatLover12backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    How about gambling on winning lottery seats within winning the lottery. :lol:
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    RKCNDYRKCNDY Seattle, WA Posts: 31,013
    81 wrote:
    gambling on the lotto :lol::lol::lol:

    they should do ping pong balls...

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    8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    RKCNDY wrote:
    81 wrote:
    gambling on the lotto :lol::lol::lol:

    they should do ping pong balls...

    :nono: it's not the NBA

    think about how exciting it would be.....watching the numbers come up and looking at your tenclub number to see if you win.

    maybe they can get Rickey Charles Goodrich to pull the numbers
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    october22october22 Posts: 2,533
    Whoa, Rachel Jeantel? You're in 10C?
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    YLed2YLed2 Des Moines, IA Posts: 5,534
    october22 wrote:
    Whoa, Rachel Jeantel? You're in 10C?

    :lol:
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    they need to get rid of lottery, and go back to how they used to do it , in 2000 they let you pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show only, then riot act I gue ss they had more you oculd pick pair for as many shows as you wanted.

    2000 and 2003 were lotteries. You just mailed in your ticket requests versus clicking a button on the website. I don't know if anyone was rejected tickets, but in theory more people could have sent requests in than there were tickets, and it was up to the fan club to allocate the tickets. No different than now (except we find out faster now).
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,166
    I don't think the lotto is going anywhere?

    I would guess as the band sees it... they get a set allocation of tickets at every show. If fans get them via the F5 or the lotto method, it doesn't matter, just as many 10c members go. Arguing one method over the other just changes with specific members go.

    Hopefully they announce enough dates that demand calms down a little. Everyone keeps blame the ticket disitrubution method, but either method leave fans in the dark. Need enough tour dates so everyone stops trying to go to the same shows.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    It really doesn't matter what method they use.
    People will still fail to comprehend that demand far exceeds supply for many shows.
    There are lot of 10c members and they do small "tours." Tis all.
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,433
    if there is a lottery for a new tour, hopefully the lotto is done and doesn't come back. but if the bullshit lotto comes back, anyone interested in betting on if they will win the lotto or not for the shows they pick? I am interested in betting with people, on this if lottery is back and anyone is interested. figure instead of being disappointed and losing 10c lotto maybe we can win some $ on the side then. lottery is total bullshit people been members for 15 years go to 100 shows cant get a ticket, then fuckin people who just joined win the lottery. they need to get rid of lottery, and go back to how they used to do it , in 2000 they let you pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show only, then riot act I gue ss they had more you oculd pick pair for as many shows as you wanted.

    both were way more fair than 10c lottery. please don't bring back the lottery. I buy lottery tickets and don't win, wtf would I think id win on 10c lottery? it like im just wasting $ on 10c membership if it gonna be lottery forever now, how often will I win a lottery? im already like 0 for 6 or 7 on London and Chicago total bullshit then I leave the country, and they announced more tickets for London now. that why you should announce tours in advance like you used to not just two months in advance, the old tours had like 6 months notice. I remember fuckin waiting for tickets in line in late march, for an October show in montreal for the year 1998. that was plently of notice, why does pj lat few tours announced at last minute for? new management? less dates so they book shit later now, I don't know just get rid of lottery and play a real tour please not just 2 shows

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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    on2legs wrote:
    if there is a lottery for a new tour, hopefully the lotto is done and doesn't come back. but if the bullshit lotto comes back, anyone interested in betting on if they will win the lotto or not for the shows they pick? I am interested in betting with people, on this if lottery is back and anyone is interested. figure instead of being disappointed and losing 10c lotto maybe we can win some $ on the side then. lottery is total bullshit people been members for 15 years go to 100 shows cant get a ticket, then fuckin people who just joined win the lottery. they need to get rid of lottery, and go back to how they used to do it , in 2000 they let you pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show only, then riot act I gue ss they had more you oculd pick pair for as many shows as you wanted.

    both were way more fair than 10c lottery. please don't bring back the lottery. I buy lottery tickets and don't win, wtf would I think id win on 10c lottery? it like im just wasting $ on 10c membership if it gonna be lottery forever now, how often will I win a lottery? im already like 0 for 6 or 7 on London and Chicago total bullshit then I leave the country, and they announced more tickets for London now. that why you should announce tours in advance like you used to not just two months in advance, the old tours had like 6 months notice. I remember fuckin waiting for tickets in line in late march, for an October show in montreal for the year 1998. that was plently of notice, why does pj lat few tours announced at last minute for? new management? less dates so they book shit later now, I don't know just get rid of lottery and play a real tour please not just 2 shows

    Computer day at the old folks home?

    I'm fairly certain this person was at a casino. Come on, the dude wants to gamble on the PJ lottery. ;)
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    pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
    they need to get rid of lottery, and go back to how they used to do it , in 2000 they let you pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show only, then riot act I gue ss they had more you oculd pick pair for as many shows as you wanted.

    2000 and 2003 were lotteries. You just mailed in your ticket requests versus clicking a button on the website. I don't know if anyone was rejected tickets, but in theory more people could have sent requests in than there were tickets, and it was up to the fan club to allocate the tickets. No different than now (except we find out faster now).

    this is not true, I was a member back then, I remember 2000 you got to pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show on the tour, to my knowledge most everyone got their first choice? I did? it was more than just a 2 show tour though. and didn't seem like a lotto cause no one was bitching about not getting tickets for the show they picked

    2003 was riot act, I remember that tour was NOT LOTTO, why do you say that? I saw 13 shows on the east coast leg that year, and picked them all when they sent the form in the mail, never had a problem getting for the shows I picked, went to 2 boston, 2 Camden, Albany, buffalo, Toronto, montreal, Columbus, cincy rain out flooding, etc etc never got shut out of tickets. that was not a lotto
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    pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
    riot act was a great tour it was easy to get 10c tickets they gave a pair to as many shows as you wanted it was not lotto, that wh I don't get now why cant they get as many tickets? if they play same size venues and ticketmasters takes more tickets, then what about playing bigger venues or non ticket master venues? pearl jam could put a festival on at las vegas motorspeedway it has no noise bylaw and could play a 4 hour set if they wanted to and invite other good bands to open for them, I don't get why 10c has so few tickets nowadays? if they used to get 3 or 4k a show for 20k arenas, youd think they can get 7 or 8k fan club tickets for a size show like Wrigley.

    but ya im in for betting lottery if anyone wants to bet with me? I know some people here live in vegas. im thinking we can give everyone even money, then maybe we can do head to head matchups, and some pool betting? like if pj plays a 10 show tour and its all bullshit lottery. we can do a group pool of like 10 people or so for $100 a piece, and last person picked or last person shut out wins the pool. cause I bet at least a few people get fucked over on lotto if pj plays 20 shows, that why it not fair.
    it be more fair to go by senority , even though that not fair to give new members a chance at tickets then

    that why the mailing thing like riot act, or the 1 show pair of tickets in 2000 is better system
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    pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
    also I read the way the lottery worked for London and Chicago, was when people picked their first choice if it was not selected, the 2nd choice they picked, was then a 2nd lottery later on? so people that picked the first choice of lets say London, when you pick first choice Chicago and don't win. then people that won London as first choice, when you put London as your 2nd choice most the tickets are gone already and then you don't win? I think that how I didn't win anything? im in Ontario but wanted the Chicago show, and I pick ga Chicago 1st choice, then London seating 2nd choice,

    AND IF THIS IS HOW THE LOTTERY IS DONE? OTHJER PEOPLE POSTED HERE IT WAS NOT SURE IF IT TRUE? BUT IF IT IS THAT NOT A TRUE LOTTERY, WHY IS PEOPLES 2ND CHOICES BEING PICKED IN A 2ND LOTTERY FOR THE LEFT OVER SEATS OF THE 1ST CHOICE SHOW IF THE PERSON DOESNT WIN THE 1ST SHOW? that makes no sense, but makes perfect sense how it would mathematically eliminated people.

    I wonder if people that won tickets for both shows, had like London as their first choice, then Chicago seats cheap option 2nd choice? very weird wy to run a lotto that not completely random then either when you 2nd choice is in a 2nd draw, after most gone for first draw tickets? :fp: is this true?
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    pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
    I figured when I pick London as my 2nd choice, if I don't win the Chicago ga 1st choice

    at least the drawing for the London would be the same for everyone? so if people pick London as their 1st choice, or you pick London as your 2nd choice the drawing for everyone is at the same time?

    just like if someone pick Chicago as their first choice, lets say I did. then guy B picks Chicago as his 2nd choice, he should be entered in the Chicago draw with all the first choices too, doesn't that make sense?

    plus I don't think 10c did a lotto of both shows at the exact same time either, which make it make even less sense if it wasn't done how I just said? it confusing if it separate draws for 1st and 2nd choice people and not in the same drawing??
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    they need to get rid of lottery, and go back to how they used to do it , in 2000 they let you pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show only, then riot act I gue ss they had more you oculd pick pair for as many shows as you wanted.

    2000 and 2003 were lotteries. You just mailed in your ticket requests versus clicking a button on the website. I don't know if anyone was rejected tickets, but in theory more people could have sent requests in than there were tickets, and it was up to the fan club to allocate the tickets. No different than now (except we find out faster now).

    this is not true, I was a member back then, I remember 2000 you got to pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show on the tour, to my knowledge most everyone got their first choice? I did? it was more than just a 2 show tour though. and didn't seem like a lotto cause no one was bitching about not getting tickets for the show they picked

    2003 was riot act, I remember that tour was NOT LOTTO, why do you say that? I saw 13 shows on the east coast leg that year, and picked them all when they sent the form in the mail, never had a problem getting for the shows I picked, went to 2 boston, 2 Camden, Albany, buffalo, Toronto, montreal, Columbus, cincy rain out flooding, etc etc never got shut out of tickets. that was not a lotto

    So if 10,000 people sent in requests for Albany and they could have only got 8,000 fan club tickets, what do you think would have happened? There were more shows back then and they may have had more fan club tickets which led to an easier time getting the shows you wanted as less demand and more tickets.
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    8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    81 wrote:
    maybe they can get Rickey Charles Goodrich to pull the numbers

    come on people...this was gold....fuckin gold :x
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158

    So if 10,000 people sent in requests for Albany and they could have only got 8,000 fan club tickets, what do you think would have happened? There were more shows back then and they may have had more fan club tickets which led to an easier time getting the shows you wanted as less demand and more tickets.
    yep...

    Tim said in the interview..they have now 200.000 active members..
    lets assume that half of them,100.000 are American fans......they do a tour of 10 shows....

    they have 1000 pairs per show...can u see the numbers???
    and more try to score to more than one one show..and not only American fans try to score..
    .back at 2000 the memebrship numbers was like 220xxx..now new members almost 500xxx
    small tour,less shows,more members want the fan club tix
    so taugh to score...
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479

    So if 10,000 people sent in requests for Albany and they could have only got 8,000 fan club tickets, what do you think would have happened? There were more shows back then and they may have had more fan club tickets which led to an easier time getting the shows you wanted as less demand and more tickets.
    yep...

    Tim said in the interview..they have now 200.000 active members..
    lets assume that half of them,100.000 are American fans......they do a tour of 10 shows....

    they have 1000 pairs per show...can u see the numbers???
    and more try to score to more than one one show..and not only American fans try to score..
    .back at 2000 the memebrship numbers was like 220xxx..now new members almost 500xxx
    small tour,less shows,more members want the fan club tix
    so taugh to score...
    yeah also nowhere near 8k per show
    more like 2500-3k
    think 20,000 (or more) fans trying for 1500 (or less) pairs in Albany
    it will be very interesting to see how this plays out
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    pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
    why is there less fan club tickets available now? because ticketmaster and stubhub eat more of them nowadays? if that the case pj needs to avoid ticketmaster places, ya its hard to do but it can be done, or they can play bigger venues, maybe Wrigley is not big enough for them if they just gonna play 2 shows, maybe they need to play Chicago speedway, where nascar goes, that place can hold 2x Wrigley easily. then maybe there wouldn't be problems getting tickets. id rather get into a show than not get in it at all, Wrigley and London lotto were disaster. never got shut out so badly for tickets, I didn't get msg night 2 in 2010 but so what I got from ticketmaster regular sale later still a decent seat, Wrigley though was nightmare and the London site crash for public onsale and didn't work I was in a waiting line that never worked

    it so stupid that soundgarden can tour 20 or 30 shows, and eddie can do a solo tour of 30 shows in usa and Europe, and pj cant even do a 30 or 40 show tour like back in the day? they not even that old :fp:

    then they said they never play festivals after Denmark nows seems like half the shows are festivals, have no problem with them playing festivals, as long they play normal shows too, the philly thing with jay z besides pj was a pretty shitty festival, shit bands rap music bunch of bs bands, pj wants to play festivals they better off imo doing a touring version of east troy 2 years ago, and do 10 or 20 shows at big venues.
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    BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,341
    on2legs wrote:
    if there is a lottery for a new tour, hopefully the lotto is done and doesn't come back. but if the bullshit lotto comes back, anyone interested in betting on if they will win the lotto or not for the shows they pick? I am interested in betting with people, on this if lottery is back and anyone is interested. figure instead of being disappointed and losing 10c lotto maybe we can win some $ on the side then. lottery is total bullshit people been members for 15 years go to 100 shows cant get a ticket, then fuckin people who just joined win the lottery. they need to get rid of lottery, and go back to how they used to do it , in 2000 they let you pick 1 pair of tickets for 1 show only, then riot act I gue ss they had more you oculd pick pair for as many shows as you wanted.

    both were way more fair than 10c lottery. please don't bring back the lottery. I buy lottery tickets and don't win, wtf would I think id win on 10c lottery? it like im just wasting $ on 10c membership if it gonna be lottery forever now, how often will I win a lottery? im already like 0 for 6 or 7 on London and Chicago total bullshit then I leave the country, and they announced more tickets for London now. that why you should announce tours in advance like you used to not just two months in advance, the old tours had like 6 months notice. I remember fuckin waiting for tickets in line in late march, for an October show in montreal for the year 1998. that was plently of notice, why does pj lat few tours announced at last minute for? new management? less dates so they book shit later now, I don't know just get rid of lottery and play a real tour please not just 2 shows

    Computer day at the old folks home?

    That's funny. I respectfully disagree with the OP.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    Get_Right wrote:

    So if 10,000 people sent in requests for Albany and they could have only got 8,000 fan club tickets, what do you think would have happened? There were more shows back then and they may have had more fan club tickets which led to an easier time getting the shows you wanted as less demand and more tickets.
    yep...

    Tim said in the interview..they have now 200.000 active members..
    lets assume that half of them,100.000 are American fans......they do a tour of 10 shows....

    they have 1000 pairs per show...can u see the numbers???
    and more try to score to more than one one show..and not only American fans try to score..
    .back at 2000 the memebrship numbers was like 220xxx..now new members almost 500xxx
    small tour,less shows,more members want the fan club tix
    so taugh to score...
    yeah also nowhere near 8k per show
    more like 2500-3k
    think 20,000 (or more) fans trying for 1500 (or less) pairs in Albany
    it will be very interesting to see how this plays out
    yeah..if you just stop for a min and put the numbers down,you will realise the need for a change anyway..its impossible to score cos not many tix for the fans want them,.and the same time site crash etc..
    so they did the change with lottery so they keep the sale in their shop and go smooth without technical problems
    and secure that tix will go to different members with this priority
    but they cant improve the chances to score..less chances cos there are like 100 times more fans than the available tix the last 10 years..its sucks..but nothing will change this..
    only if they do a 50 shows per year tour all will be happy..
    unfortunetely will never happen
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