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2013 Tour de France- SPOILERS INCLUDED

RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
edited July 2013 in All Encompassing Trip
What are your thoughts?

Wiggins out. Froome? Will Jens win a stage? How about Garmin?
The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
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  • FrankieGFrankieG Posts: 9,100
    Just got admitted to the hospital (long story) and the tv package doesn't have NBC Sports Network :x
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    FrankieG wrote:
    Just got admitted to the hospital (long story) and the tv package doesn't have NBC Sports Network :x

    Oh no! Sorry for both being in the hospital and no TDF! Do you have a computer and WiFi? You can get it streaming online.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • EraserheadEraserhead Posts: 2,934
    Two climbs up Alpe d'Huez on the same stage! w00t!! 8-)
    Manchester 04.06.00, Leeds 25.08.06, Wembley 18.06.07, Dusseldorf 21.06.07, Shepherds Bush 11.08.09, Manchester 17.08.09, Adelaide 17.11.09, Melbourne 20.11.09, Sydney 22.11.09, Brisbane 25.11.09, MSG1 20.05.10, MSG2 21.05.10, Dublin 22.06.10, Belfast 23.06.10, London 25.06.10, Long Beach 06.07.11 (EV), Los Angeles 08.07.11 (EV), Toronto 11.09.11, Toronto 12.09.11, Ottawa 14.09.11, Hamilton 14.09.11, Manchester 20.06.12, Manchester 21.06.12, Amsterdam 26.06.2012, Amsterdam 27.06.2012, Berlin 04.07.12, Berlin 05.07.12, Stockholm 07.07.12, Oslo 09.07.12, Copenhagen 10.07.12, Manchester 28.07.12 (EV), Brooklyn 18.10.13, Brooklyn 19.10.13, Philly 21.10.13, Philly 22.10.13, San Diego 21.11.13, LA 23.11.13, LA 24.11.13, Oakland 26.11.13, Portland 29.11.13, Spokane 30.11.13, Calgary 02.12.13, Vancouver 04.12.13, Seattle 06.12.13, Trieste 22.06.14, Vienna 25.06.14, Berlin 26.06.14, Stockholm 28.06.14, Leeds 08.07.14, Philly 28.04.16, Philly 28.04.16, MSG1 01.05.16, MSG2 02.05.16
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Eraserhead wrote:
    Two climbs up Alpe d'Huez on the same stage! w00t!! 8-)

    Crazy! Would love to be there.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • FrankieGFrankieG Posts: 9,100
    Riverrunner wrote:
    FrankieG wrote:
    Just got admitted to the hospital (long story) and the tv package doesn't have NBC Sports Network :x

    Oh no! Sorry for both being in the hospital and no TDF! Do you have a computer and WiFi? You can get it streaming online.

    Apparently I wasn't looking hard enough cause I did manage to find it and catch the end! :)
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • EraserheadEraserhead Posts: 2,934
    Now where did I park the tour bus...?
    Manchester 04.06.00, Leeds 25.08.06, Wembley 18.06.07, Dusseldorf 21.06.07, Shepherds Bush 11.08.09, Manchester 17.08.09, Adelaide 17.11.09, Melbourne 20.11.09, Sydney 22.11.09, Brisbane 25.11.09, MSG1 20.05.10, MSG2 21.05.10, Dublin 22.06.10, Belfast 23.06.10, London 25.06.10, Long Beach 06.07.11 (EV), Los Angeles 08.07.11 (EV), Toronto 11.09.11, Toronto 12.09.11, Ottawa 14.09.11, Hamilton 14.09.11, Manchester 20.06.12, Manchester 21.06.12, Amsterdam 26.06.2012, Amsterdam 27.06.2012, Berlin 04.07.12, Berlin 05.07.12, Stockholm 07.07.12, Oslo 09.07.12, Copenhagen 10.07.12, Manchester 28.07.12 (EV), Brooklyn 18.10.13, Brooklyn 19.10.13, Philly 21.10.13, Philly 22.10.13, San Diego 21.11.13, LA 23.11.13, LA 24.11.13, Oakland 26.11.13, Portland 29.11.13, Spokane 30.11.13, Calgary 02.12.13, Vancouver 04.12.13, Seattle 06.12.13, Trieste 22.06.14, Vienna 25.06.14, Berlin 26.06.14, Stockholm 28.06.14, Leeds 08.07.14, Philly 28.04.16, Philly 28.04.16, MSG1 01.05.16, MSG2 02.05.16
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Eraserhead wrote:
    Now where did I park the tour bus...?

    That was crazy. I felt sorry for the driver. And the crash at the end was crazy too.

    I thought yesterday's stage was awesome. I am sure no fan of Radio Shack but it was nice seeing the young guy win - someone who never expected to win a stage and someone nobody else expected to win. And to see the pelaton breathing down his back and him barely making it across the finish was cool.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    been watching every day. so far, some better than expected stages. gotta say tho, it's not quite the same without drug fueled supermen :shock: . hopefully, the pyrenees will provide the "epicness" le tour is known for.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    great stage today shame cav crashed and [ cant remember name soz] the french bloke hows been ill for days had to pull out but he really did well considering how uncomfortable it must have been for him and how about martin ive got money on him but itll be amazing if he finishes at all...looking forward to tomos stage and REALLY looking forward to the 18th when they go up the alp de houvs [ again soz if spellings wrong ] but its great to see them go up there once but twice WOW getting some cider in for that one and kicking the wife out shopping lol
    any been to the mounting stages ??ive done one finish and 3 middle stages and love so great to see this thread :D:D

    frome to win or port if he goes
    but i want valdever [spelling]
    ive 3 others martin but hes doubtfull and cant remember the out siders ive bet on will look later
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Cav had problems today. So did Sagan. Greipel had no problems and took advantage of his opportunity. Exciting finish.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    love watching the helicopter shots of the country side with the one castles ect beautiful country :D
    well won segan great race ..cav tomo tho :D
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    wow....a week w/o a post :shock:

    thought cav had it yesterday. damn.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    today's stage was absolute carnage! ... wow ...

    when can we post spoilers?
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    today's stage was absolute carnage! ... wow ...

    when can we post spoilers?

    Maybe the OP can change the title of the thread to say SPOILERS INCLUDED so anyone that hasn't seen it knows not top look at the thread.

    I loved the carnage - to Froome at least. I'm not a fan of Sky.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Riverrunner wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    today's stage was absolute carnage! ... wow ...

    when can we post spoilers?

    Maybe the OP can change the title of the thread to say SPOILERS INCLUDED so anyone that hasn't seen it knows not top look at the thread.

    I loved the carnage - to Froome at least. I'm not a fan of Sky.

    uhhh ... it says you are the OP ... :)

    sky does seem mechanical but it does the job although they have shown they aren't unbeatable ... hopefully with today's stage - a breakaway can make it to the end ... hate watching only sprinters or climbers win stages ...

    ventoux on sunday is gonna be pretty awesome ... movistar will be angry and froome will want to offer some payback ...
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    Riverrunner wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    today's stage was absolute carnage! ... wow ...

    when can we post spoilers?

    Maybe the OP can change the title of the thread to say SPOILERS INCLUDED so anyone that hasn't seen it knows not top look at the thread.

    I loved the carnage - to Froome at least. I'm not a fan of Sky.

    uhhh ... it says you are the OP ... :)

    sky does seem mechanical but it does the job although they have shown they aren't unbeatable ... hopefully with today's stage - a breakaway can make it to the end ... hate watching only sprinters or climbers win stages ...

    ventoux on sunday is gonna be pretty awesome ... movistar will be angry and froome will want to offer some payback ...

    Who? Me? Ha! I forgot I started this thread. Thanks for the reminder. Now I need to figure out how to change it.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    please....NO SPOILERS! at least nothing concrete ;)

    I have never seen the pack split like that on a FLAT stage. good stuff. plus, "my guy" won :mrgreen:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    why can't france produce stage winners? :roll: :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    those accelerations from froome were pretty violent ... i don't think i've ever seen anything like that ... :shock:

    i'd like to think he's riding clean ... i mean is was born in kenya where they seemingly are born with a 3rd lung ... just wish he would release his power data and sky sign on to the mpcc ...

    only question left is who will stand next to him on the podioum ...
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    those accelerations from froome were pretty violent ... i don't think i've ever seen anything like that ... :shock:

    i'd like to think he's riding clean ... i mean is was born in kenya where they seemingly are born with a 3rd lung ... just wish he would release his power data and sky sign on to the mpcc ...

    only question left is who will stand next to him on the podioum ...

    I am disappointed in Froome being so far ahead. I feel sorry for him if he isn't juiced because most people (like me) are pretty jaded and think he is. But we probably won't know for a few years. Apparently there is the "new" EPO for which there is no test at this time. Probably will be in a few years. Not to mention doping with your own blood. That is hard to catch unless the plasticizers show up. And then there is the UCI of course who like to hide failed results of certain riders to protect their image. Oh well. I still enjoy watching the race -even if Froome wins.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Riverrunner wrote:
    I am disappointed in Froome being so far ahead. I feel sorry for him if he isn't juiced because most people (like me) are pretty jaded and think he is. But we probably won't know for a few years. Apparently there is the "new" EPO for which there is no test at this time. Probably will be in a few years. Not to mention doping with your own blood. That is hard to catch unless the plasticizers show up. And then there is the UCI of course who like to hide failed results of certain riders to protect their image. Oh well. I still enjoy watching the race -even if Froome wins.

    interesting article on velonews about whether he's doping ... feel bad for the guy that he has to answer these questions ... but the skeptics aren't just casual cycling/sports fans ... they include a lot of people who know a lot about the sport ... having said that - there are a lot of people including lemond who has defended them ...
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    Riverrunner wrote:
    I am disappointed in Froome being so far ahead. I feel sorry for him if he isn't juiced because most people (like me) are pretty jaded and think he is. But we probably won't know for a few years. Apparently there is the "new" EPO for which there is no test at this time. Probably will be in a few years. Not to mention doping with your own blood. That is hard to catch unless the plasticizers show up. And then there is the UCI of course who like to hide failed results of certain riders to protect their image. Oh well. I still enjoy watching the race -even if Froome wins.

    interesting article on velonews about whether he's doping ... feel bad for the guy that he has to answer these questions ... but the skeptics aren't just casual cycling/sports fans ... they include a lot of people who know a lot about the sport ... having said that - there are a lot of people including lemond who has defended them ...

    Polaris, are you going to be at Wrigley by any chance? If so, we need to meet up and talk TDF.

    I promised my husband I would call our hotel and find out if we will be able to watch it in our room, or if we will have to find a sports bar open in the mornings to watch the last few stages.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Polaris, are you going to be at Wrigley by any chance? If so, we need to meet up and talk TDF.

    I promised my husband I would call our hotel and find out if we will be able to watch it in our room, or if we will have to find a sports bar open in the mornings to watch the last few stages.

    no ... just got back from iceland so won't be able to make wrigley ...

    as a last resort - you can always stream if you bring a laptop or tablet with you ... steephill.tv ... you will find links to where you can stream ... also, i find the eurosport commentators a little bit better ... getting tired of phil ...

    will be shooting for hartford tickets today ... any chance you guys are going to that? ...
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Polaris, are you going to be at Wrigley by any chance? If so, we need to meet up and talk TDF.

    I promised my husband I would call our hotel and find out if we will be able to watch it in our room, or if we will have to find a sports bar open in the mornings to watch the last few stages.

    no ... just got back from iceland so won't be able to make wrigley ...

    as a last resort - you can always stream if you bring a laptop or tablet with you ... steephill.tv ... you will find links to where you can stream ... also, i find the eurosport commentators a little bit better ... getting tired of phil ...

    will be shooting for hartford tickets today ... any chance you guys are going to that? ...

    No. I put in for Oklahoma City. We don't live close to any of the venues - Southern Illinois. I picked the one where I would know the most people in case I have to go by myself. A lot of my PJ friends put in for that one.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    great day for the breakaway today looking forward to the 18th.......i really hope Frome isnt cheating itll be such a shame not just for the supporters but for the sport in general .
    apparently sky have got some sort of special training regime but wont realise the dater ....if Frome is found to be cheating he should be banned for life same as Armstrong ...even Contador should not be racing ..
    if your found cheating BANNED imo
  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    todays the big one :D
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    guypjfreak wrote:
    todays the big one :D

    And we will miss it because we will be on a train headed to Chicago. Bittersweet. :P
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    ah have a good one :D
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    guypjfreak wrote:
    great day for the breakaway today looking forward to the 18th.......i really hope Frome isnt cheating itll be such a shame not just for the supporters but for the sport in general .
    apparently sky have got some sort of special training regime but wont realise the dater ....if Frome is found to be cheating he should be banned for life same as Armstrong ...even Contador should not be racing ..
    if your found cheating BANNED imo

    there is talk about a new epo ... who knows ... i'm not sure about froome myself ... as i have been with most other cyclists ... i wish sky would join the mpcc ... i actually emailed the team after they asked what they could possibly do to make people believe they weren't cheating ... well, join the mpcc and i haven't had a response ...

    either way ... looks like saxo is sending riders up the road ... expect a full on attack by movistar and contador ...
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