Glowing Plants

JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Posts: 10,219
edited June 2013 in A Moving Train
Glowing plants: a cool idea, or terrible one?
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/report/ ... e662&ftag=

“What if we used trees to light our streets instead of electric street lamps?” starts the Glowing Plant Kickstarter campaign video.

The pitch, launched April 23, continues, “Our way of life is unsustainable. Lighting creates as much CO2 as cars,” and then describes how its “Stanford-trained PhDs” used synthetic biology to create a weed, Arabidopsis thaliana, that faintly glows in the dark. Along with images from the film “Avatar,” the video finishes with Glowing Plant project manager Antony Evans asking potential backers to “demonstrate their commitment to a more sustainable future.” For $40 or more, 8,000 backers of the project will each receive 50 to 100 seeds next year.

Unless, that is, some environmental groups — claiming that the project will set a precedent that could have far-reaching environmental ramifications — manage to stop it.

Before going any further, let’s define genetic engineering and synthetic biology. With the former, you take genes from one organism and insert them into another organism. With the latter, which is newer technology, you design genes on a computer and put them into an organism, thereby creating DNA that has never before existed in nature.

Evans says Glowing Plant has two goals: “The first is to educate and inspire people about the capabilities of the technology and to start a discussion around it and to get people working on it. The second is a long-term vision to create glowing trees that could replace street lamps.”

But protest groups such as ETC Group and Friends of the Earth say the project sets a dangerous precedent. While no one knows exactly what kind of danger a glowing Arabidopsis poses to the environment or human health, if any, they say that is precisely their point.

Jim Thomas, research director for ETC Group, an international technology watchdog, says Glowing Plant will be the first environmental release of a synthetic biological organism — and that it will be conducted without any oversight. “What’s kind of crazy about this project is that not only are they going to release an organism produced by synthetic biology, but they’re going to release it randomly, hundreds of thousands of seeds — unmonitored, uncontrolled, unregulated. It’s absolutely the worst way to begin an environmental release of a synthetic biological organism,” he says.

Dr. Allison Snow, an ecologist at Ohio State University, says, “Anytime you have an engineered plant and you put it out in nature, there’s a regulatory process that nearly every country goes though to say, ‘This is the novel gene, this is what it does, this is why we think it’s safe,’ and we don’t have that information yet for this project.”

So, how is Glowing Plant getting around this process? Actually, there aren’t regulations that cover it. The United States Department of Agriculture’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) has mostly regulated genetically modified crops under plant pest laws; many genetically modified organisms are created with agrobacteria that inserts the genes into the plant, and agrobacteria is a type of plant pest.

Glowing Plant, however, isn’t using agrobacteria. On its Kickstarter page, the group explains, “Once we have proven the designs work [using agrobacteria], we will then insert the same gene sequence into the plant using a gene gun. This is more complicated, as there’s a risk the gene sequence gets scrambled, but the result will be unregulated by the USDA and thus suitable for release.”

Protest groups have contacted Kickstarter, which declined to comment for this story, and APHIS, which told SmartPlanet, “Regarding synthetic biologics, if they do not pose a plant risk, APHIS does not regulate it and as such cannot comment further.”

Evans emphasizes that what makes Glowing Plant special is not the science, but the crowdfunding aspect. “[Glowing Plants is] the first project to be done with Kickstarter funding in a do-it-yourself biology lab. It’s not some radical new approach to science.”

Todd Kuiken, a senior science and technology innovation associate at the nonpartisan Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars, called Glowing Plant “an ideal stress test” of current regulations for biotechnology, which, since the 1980s, have been grafted onto existing laws, instead of being drawn up anew.

Noting that Scotts Miracle-Gro’s genetically engineered Kentucky Bluegrass also fell out of the USDA’s regulatory purview, he says: “[Glowing Plant] does set a precedent, where you can do this and release it and no one is evaluating it. And that is a concern that needs to be examined. What are the questions we need to be concerned about when we release products or plants using synthetic biology or traditional gene transfer techniques into the environment?”
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,055
    Oh- groan- more mad science. We humans think we are so clever, modifying Mother Nature to an uncertain end. This planet will require great amounts of time to undue our meddling.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Posts: 10,219
    brianlux wrote:
    Oh- groan- more mad science. We humans think we are so clever, modifying Mother Nature to an uncertain end. This planet will require great amounts of time to undue our meddling.

    It is a bit mad science.

    You reminded me of a sad reality I heard this morning...As I was driving there was an interview on the radio with a climatologist from Florida Atlantic University. He was saying that we might be past trying to fix the problems associated with human affects on climate change and that rather, we need to start figuring out how to deal with all the damage that might be around the corner. Apparently NYC is looking into spending billions on levee systems due to the flooding associated with hurricane Sandy last year combined with potential rising water levels in the future.

    ..But glowing plants look cool :lol: on an aside, I have a story i've written about bioluminescence -- its fiction, but it was inspired by some mad science that I heard about regarding the potential for bioluminescence in animals, roads, plants, etc..
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Are the plants 20 feet tall so the light will shine down on you or are we going to walk around being blinded by eye-level lighting?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    brianlux wrote:
    Oh- groan- more mad science. We humans think we are so clever, modifying Mother Nature to an uncertain end. This planet will require great amounts of time to undue our meddling.

    It is a bit mad science.

    You reminded me of a sad reality I heard this morning...As I was driving there was an interview on the radio with a climatologist from Florida Atlantic University. He was saying that we might be past trying to fix the problems associated with human affects on climate change and that rather, we need to start figuring out how to deal with all the damage that might be around the corner. Apparently NYC is looking into spending billions on levee systems due to the flooding associated with hurricane Sandy last year combined with potential rising water levels in the future.

    ..But glowing plants look cool :lol: on an aside, I have a story i've written about bioluminescence -- its fiction, but it was inspired by some mad science that I heard about regarding the potential for bioluminescence in animals, roads, plants, etc..

    phosphorescence: "1.Light emitted by a substance without combustion or perceptible heat.
    2.The emission of radiation in a similar manner to fluorescence but on a longer timescale, so that emission continues after excitation ceases." - online dictionary

    i wonder what the difference is between bioluminescence & phosphorescence

    i used to drink coffee & hang out in this coffee shop named phosphorescence... cranked up coffee, holy toledo, rocket fuel

    turns out there is a band named phosphorescence. i don't know a thng about them
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Posts: 10,219
    know1 wrote:
    Are the plants 20 feet tall so the light will shine down on you or are we going to walk around being blinded by eye-level lighting?

    They'll be short, it seems, so you'll be looking down at your toes, bumping into folks all over.
    chadwick wrote:
    phosphorescence: "1.Light emitted by a substance without combustion or perceptible heat.
    2.The emission of radiation in a similar manner to fluorescence but on a longer timescale, so that emission continues after excitation ceases." - online dictionary

    i wonder what the difference is between bioluminescence & phosphorescence

    i used to drink coffee & hang out in this coffee shop named phosphorescence... cranked up coffee, holy toledo, rocket fuel

    turns out there is a band named phosphorescence. i don't know a thng about them

    Bioluminescence is living things.
    Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbIWqiynBY
    especially around 1:00... It almost looks fake, but Ive seen stuff like this, its real, and amazing.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I say we stay focused on building an army of glow in the dark cats first.

    :geek:

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,055
    brianlux wrote:
    Oh- groan- more mad science. We humans think we are so clever, modifying Mother Nature to an uncertain end. This planet will require great amounts of time to undue our meddling.

    It is a bit mad science.

    You reminded me of a sad reality I heard this morning...As I was driving there was an interview on the radio with a climatologist from Florida Atlantic University. He was saying that we might be past trying to fix the problems associated with human affects on climate change and that rather, we need to start figuring out how to deal with all the damage that might be around the corner. Apparently NYC is looking into spending billions on levee systems due to the flooding associated with hurricane Sandy last year combined with potential rising water levels in the future.

    That is, it seems, the sad truth. But of course I will argue that it makes sense to keep working to minimize the damage until my voice is stifled by the rising tides as the water finally reaches my nose. (Not the most optomstic thought I've had today. :| )
    ...But glowing plants look cool :lol: on an aside, I have a story i've written about bioluminescence -- its fiction, but it was inspired by some mad science that I heard about regarding the potential for bioluminescence in animals, roads, plants, etc..

    Natural bioluminescence is a cool! My wife and I visited the aquariums at the San Francisco Academy of Sciences not long ago and the glowing fish were a trip!.

    I guess my main argument against Genetic Frankenscience is that I want the choice to be able to live in (at least a predominantly) natural world and that is becoming less likely all the time.

    Now I must get off of here and go back to struggling with trying to back up my inventory records kept on a completely mechanistic device run by a totally unnatural digital program. :lol:
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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