disproportionalessness

JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
edited June 2013 in A Moving Train
someone remind me how many people died or were injured here on US soil due to "terrorist" activity during the last:
2 years?
5 years?
10 years?
12 years?
15 years?
20 years?

how much time money effort and lawlessness went into protecting me for those same periods?

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...
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  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    it is now as it always has been
    a matter of money and power
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    speaking of disproportionalessness

    yottabyte

    1 YB = 1000000000000000000000000bytes = 10008bytes = 1024bytes = 1000zettabytes = 1 trillion terabytes.

    To store a yottabyte on terabyte sized hard drives would require a million city block size data-centers, as big as the states of Delaware and Rhode Island.[1] If 64 GB microSDXC cards (the most compact data storage medium available to public as of early 2013) were used instead, the total volume would be approximately 2500000 cubic meters, or the volume of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

    The Utah Data Center, operated by the National Security Agency, is designed to store data on the scale of yottabytes.

    http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/how-b ... poiler.php
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  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    BinFrog wrote:
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    fight the power
    fuck the man!!
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Heart Disease is the winner. It kills everyday.

    #1 cause of death
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    JC29856 wrote:
    speaking of disproportionalessness

    yottabyte

    1 YB = 1000000000000000000000000bytes = 10008bytes = 1024bytes = 1000zettabytes = 1 trillion terabytes.

    To store a yottabyte on terabyte sized hard drives would require a million city block size data-centers, as big as the states of Delaware and Rhode Island.[1] If 64 GB microSDXC cards (the most compact data storage medium available to public as of early 2013) were used instead, the total volume would be approximately 2500000 cubic meters, or the volume of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

    The Utah Data Center, operated by the National Security Agency, is designed to store data on the scale of yottabytes.

    http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/how-b ... poiler.php


    That is awesome! I only have 1.5 TB. I want a yottabyte, now. ;) I will wait until Japanese engineers make it smaller.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    JC29856 wrote:
    once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
    cancer
    heart disease
    auto accidents
    natural disasters
    product liability
    and etc...

    unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
    so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

    when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

    I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    pjhawks wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
    cancer
    heart disease
    auto accidents
    natural disasters
    product liability
    and etc...

    unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
    so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

    when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

    I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

    I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    aerial wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
    cancer
    heart disease
    auto accidents
    natural disasters
    product liability
    and etc...

    unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
    so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

    when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

    I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

    I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...

    If America embraced the black market, and taxed it, we would be very rich.

    Eric Schlosser, the Fast Food Nation author, wrote a very interesting book on that subject.

    "He has also written the 2003 book Reefer Madness, a three part book that discusses the history and current trade of marijuana, the use of migrant workers in California strawberry fields, and the American pornography industry and its history.

    He is currently at work on a book on nuclear weapons and another book on America's prison system which has been nearly 10 years in the making. Schlosser's book on nuclear weapons, Command and Control, will be a history of the nuclear weapon system of the Cold War told from the perspective of scientists and engineers."
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    aerial wrote:
    I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...

    they already are.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    STAYSEA wrote:
    Heart Disease is the winner. It kills everyday.

    #1 cause of death
    not just heart disease, but STRESS is what kills people.

    stress can not be avoided.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    JC29856 wrote:

    once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
    cancer
    heart disease
    auto accidents
    natural disasters
    product liability
    and etc...

    Once we cure/fix those, what will we die of then? Maybe something worse...
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    STAYSEA wrote:
    Heart Disease is the winner. It kills everyday.

    #1 cause of death
    not just heart disease, but STRESS is what kills people.

    stress can not be avoided.
    Serenity Now
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    pjhawks wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...

    they already are.

    We have Senators voting against Sandy relief and then scrambling when their state is hit by devastating tornadoes.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    pjhawks wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
    cancer
    heart disease
    auto accidents
    natural disasters
    product liability
    and etc...

    unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
    so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

    when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

    I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.


    I took that part to mean that we spend a ton of time, energy and trillions of dollars on something that had killed relatively a small amount of people (terrorism) before we started two wars over an attack when compared to trying to solve the other things listed. Funding research and providing resources to those issues would probably save more lives than developing a multi billion dollar computer system that captures phone calls and analyzes them...

    As for the tax on unhealthy living...I don't think it is right to tax someone more for a product that is legal to buy and use...I don't think taxes should be used to punish people for activities, rather prorated tax breaks/credits should be used to encourage behaviors...allow gym memberships to be tax write offs rather than trying to limit the size a soda comes in...one might get people to the gym more often and cost the state relatively little in the tax revenue, where as the other simply might get someone to either buy two or get more refills and drink more than they would have with a larger size...i.e. 16 oz soda refilled once vs a 28 oz soda not refilled.

    All how you look at it though.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,055
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
    cancer
    heart disease
    auto accidents
    natural disasters
    product liability
    and etc...

    unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
    so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

    when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

    I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.


    I took that part to mean that we spend a ton of time, energy and trillions of dollars on something that had killed relatively a small amount of people (terrorism) before we started two wars over an attack when compared to trying to solve the other things listed. Funding research and providing resources to those issues would probably save more lives than developing a multi billion dollar computer system that captures phone calls and analyzes them...

    As for the tax on unhealthy living...I don't think it is right to tax someone more for a product that is legal to buy and use...I don't think taxes should be used to punish people for activities, rather prorated tax breaks/credits should be used to encourage behaviors...allow gym memberships to be tax write offs rather than trying to limit the size a soda comes in...one might get people to the gym more often and cost the state relatively little in the tax revenue, where as the other simply might get someone to either buy two or get more refills and drink more than they would have with a larger size...i.e. 16 oz soda refilled once vs a 28 oz soda not refilled.

    All how you look at it though.

    That's an interesting perspective, Mike- rewarding healthy behavior as opposed to punishing unhealthy behavior. I'd like to think people are smart enough to be persuaded in that way. We seem to take it for granted that they are not but it would make sense to try.
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
    cancer
    heart disease
    auto accidents
    natural disasters
    product liability
    and etc...

    unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
    so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

    when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

    I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.


    I took that part to mean that we spend a ton of time, energy and trillions of dollars on something that had killed relatively a small amount of people (terrorism) before we started two wars over an attack when compared to trying to solve the other things listed. Funding research and providing resources to those issues would probably save more lives than developing a multi billion dollar computer system that captures phone calls and analyzes them...

    As for the tax on unhealthy living...I don't think it is right to tax someone more for a product that is legal to buy and use...I don't think taxes should be used to punish people for activities, rather prorated tax breaks/credits should be used to encourage behaviors...allow gym memberships to be tax write offs rather than trying to limit the size a soda comes in...one might get people to the gym more often and cost the state relatively little in the tax revenue, where as the other simply might get someone to either buy two or get more refills and drink more than they would have with a larger size...i.e. 16 oz soda refilled once vs a 28 oz soda not refilled.

    All how you look at it though.

    Great Idea!
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • our modern lifestyle is the #1 killer of humans. and all the money and research in the world can't cure our stupidity. before we'd mostly die before we got disease. maybe man was not made to live to 75, much less 95.

    I say this as someone who consumed an entire bag of Doritos after 5 beers last night at 11pm watching Letterman.
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  • given my previous post, it made me think........are we the only species that has increased our life expectancy throughout evolution? but at what price?

    that should tell us something.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    our modern lifestyle is the #1 killer of humans. and all the money and research in the world can't cure our stupidity. before we'd mostly die before we got disease. maybe man was not made to live to 75, much less 95.

    I say this as someone who consumed an entire bag of Doritos after 5 beers last night at 11pm watching Letterman.

    :lol:

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1815

    good article

    In reality, the biggest threat to America today is not terrorism, which is really a much more minor problem than drunk driving (and one which would subside if the US stopped trying to be a global empire), but rather a government that has become increasingly unhinged, unmoored from the people and the Constitution, and thoroughly unprincipled — ready to lie without hesitation and acting in the interests of the rich and the powerful, instead of in the broad interests of the majority of the population.

    Our government lies about the extent to which it spies on us, it lies about the integrity of the IRS, it lies about wanting to rein in the banks, it lies about “winning” the war in Afghanistan, it lies about the Social Security program going bankrupt, it lies about the US not torturing captives, it lies about chemical weapons use in Syria, it lies about not deliberately killing innocent civilians, including women and children, with its drones in Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan, and it lies about nuclear power being safe (and about there being no radioactive fallout in the US from the Fukushima disaster).

    But the real reason we have a problem is that the government — the executive branch, the Congress and the federal courts, especially the Supreme Court — don’t trust the people.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    JC29856 wrote:
    http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1815

    good article

    In reality, the biggest threat to America today is not terrorism, which is really a much more minor problem than drunk driving (and one which would subside if the US stopped trying to be a global empire), but rather a government that has become increasingly unhinged, unmoored from the people and the Constitution, and thoroughly unprincipled — ready to lie without hesitation and acting in the interests of the rich and the powerful, instead of in the broad interests of the majority of the population.

    Our government lies about the extent to which it spies on us, it lies about the integrity of the IRS, it lies about wanting to rein in the banks, it lies about “winning” the war in Afghanistan, it lies about the Social Security program going bankrupt, it lies about the US not torturing captives, it lies about chemical weapons use in Syria, it lies about not deliberately killing innocent civilians, including women and children, with its drones in Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan, and it lies about nuclear power being safe (and about there being no radioactive fallout in the US from the Fukushima disaster).

    But the real reason we have a problem is that the government — the executive branch, the Congress and the federal courts, especially the Supreme Court — don’t trust the people.
    Good article.....but I would say "they don't care about the people"
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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