disproportionalessness

JC29856

someone remind me how many people died or were injured here on US soil due to "terrorist" activity during the last:
2 years?
5 years?
10 years?
12 years?
15 years?
20 years?

how much time money effort and lawlessness went into protecting me for those same periods?

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

mysticweed

it is now as it always has been
a matter of money and power

JC29856

speaking of disproportionalessness

yottabyte

1 YB = 1000000000000000000000000bytes = 10008bytes = 1024bytes = 1000zettabytes = 1 trillion terabytes.

To store a yottabyte on terabyte sized hard drives would require a million city block size data-centers, as big as the states of Delaware and Rhode Island.[1] If 64 GB microSDXC cards (the most compact data storage medium available to public as of early 2013) were used instead, the total volume would be approximately 2500000 cubic meters, or the volume of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

The Utah Data Center, operated by the National Security Agency, is designed to store data on the scale of yottabytes.

http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/how-b ... poiler.php

BinFrog

mysticweed

BinFrog wrote:

fight the power
fuck the man!!

JonnyPistachio

STAYSEA

Heart Disease is the winner. It kills everyday.

#1 cause of death

STAYSEA

JC29856 wrote:

speaking of disproportionalessness

yottabyte

1 YB = 1000000000000000000000000bytes = 10008bytes = 1024bytes = 1000zettabytes = 1 trillion terabytes.

To store a yottabyte on terabyte sized hard drives would require a million city block size data-centers, as big as the states of Delaware and Rhode Island.[1] If 64 GB microSDXC cards (the most compact data storage medium available to public as of early 2013) were used instead, the total volume would be approximately 2500000 cubic meters, or the volume of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

The Utah Data Center, operated by the National Security Agency, is designed to store data on the scale of yottabytes.

http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/how-b ... poiler.php

That is awesome! I only have 1.5 TB. I want a yottabyte, now. I will wait until Japanese engineers make it smaller.

pjhawks

JC29856 wrote:

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

aerial

pjhawks wrote:

JC29856 wrote:

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...

STAYSEA

aerial wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

JC29856 wrote:

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...

If America embraced the black market, and taxed it, we would be very rich.

Eric Schlosser, the Fast Food Nation author, wrote a very interesting book on that subject.

"He has also written the 2003 book Reefer Madness, a three part book that discusses the history and current trade of marijuana, the use of migrant workers in California strawberry fields, and the American pornography industry and its history.

He is currently at work on a book on nuclear weapons and another book on America's prison system which has been nearly 10 years in the making. Schlosser's book on nuclear weapons, Command and Control, will be a history of the nuclear weapon system of the Cold War told from the perspective of scientists and engineers."

pjhawks

aerial wrote:

I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...

they already are.

gimmesometruth27

STAYSEA wrote:

Heart Disease is the winner. It kills everyday.

#1 cause of death

not just heart disease, but STRESS is what kills people.

stress can not be avoided.

know1

JC29856 wrote:

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

Once we cure/fix those, what will we die of then? Maybe something worse...

Jason P

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

STAYSEA wrote:

Heart Disease is the winner. It kills everyday.

#1 cause of death

not just heart disease, but STRESS is what kills people.

stress can not be avoided.

Serenity Now

JimmyV

pjhawks wrote:

aerial wrote:

I wouldn't mind my tax dollars spent on helping people in a disaster...I really don't think anyone would mind...

they already are.

We have Senators voting against Sandy relief and then scrambling when their state is hit by devastating tornadoes.

mikepegg44

pjhawks wrote:

JC29856 wrote:

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

I took that part to mean that we spend a ton of time, energy and trillions of dollars on something that had killed relatively a small amount of people (terrorism) before we started two wars over an attack when compared to trying to solve the other things listed. Funding research and providing resources to those issues would probably save more lives than developing a multi billion dollar computer system that captures phone calls and analyzes them...

As for the tax on unhealthy living...I don't think it is right to tax someone more for a product that is legal to buy and use...I don't think taxes should be used to punish people for activities, rather prorated tax breaks/credits should be used to encourage behaviors...allow gym memberships to be tax write offs rather than trying to limit the size a soda comes in...one might get people to the gym more often and cost the state relatively little in the tax revenue, where as the other simply might get someone to either buy two or get more refills and drink more than they would have with a larger size...i.e. 16 oz soda refilled once vs a 28 oz soda not refilled.

All how you look at it though.

brianlux

mikepegg44 wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

JC29856 wrote:

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

I took that part to mean that we spend a ton of time, energy and trillions of dollars on something that had killed relatively a small amount of people (terrorism) before we started two wars over an attack when compared to trying to solve the other things listed. Funding research and providing resources to those issues would probably save more lives than developing a multi billion dollar computer system that captures phone calls and analyzes them...

As for the tax on unhealthy living...I don't think it is right to tax someone more for a product that is legal to buy and use...I don't think taxes should be used to punish people for activities, rather prorated tax breaks/credits should be used to encourage behaviors...allow gym memberships to be tax write offs rather than trying to limit the size a soda comes in...one might get people to the gym more often and cost the state relatively little in the tax revenue, where as the other simply might get someone to either buy two or get more refills and drink more than they would have with a larger size...i.e. 16 oz soda refilled once vs a 28 oz soda not refilled.

All how you look at it though.

That's an interesting perspective, Mike- rewarding healthy behavior as opposed to punishing unhealthy behavior. I'd like to think people are smart enough to be persuaded in that way. We seem to take it for granted that they are not but it would make sense to try.

aerial

mikepegg44 wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

JC29856 wrote:

once we figure those things out then we can compare it to the time money effort and lawlessness of:
cancer
heart disease
auto accidents
natural disasters
product liability
and etc...

unfortunately all these things you list when something is done to try and limit some of the causes there is a shit storm about not taking away people's personal rights.
so when cities try to limit sales of soda's...shit hits the fan.

when we try to tax cigarettes more (cause god forbid we get rid of them all together as we should) the shit hits the storm.

I would love to hear your solutions for what you list above that the people in this country wouldn't throw a fit about if something was changed.

I took that part to mean that we spend a ton of time, energy and trillions of dollars on something that had killed relatively a small amount of people (terrorism) before we started two wars over an attack when compared to trying to solve the other things listed. Funding research and providing resources to those issues would probably save more lives than developing a multi billion dollar computer system that captures phone calls and analyzes them...

As for the tax on unhealthy living...I don't think it is right to tax someone more for a product that is legal to buy and use...I don't think taxes should be used to punish people for activities, rather prorated tax breaks/credits should be used to encourage behaviors...allow gym memberships to be tax write offs rather than trying to limit the size a soda comes in...one might get people to the gym more often and cost the state relatively little in the tax revenue, where as the other simply might get someone to either buy two or get more refills and drink more than they would have with a larger size...i.e. 16 oz soda refilled once vs a 28 oz soda not refilled.

All how you look at it though.

Great Idea!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

our modern lifestyle is the #1 killer of humans. and all the money and research in the world can't cure our stupidity. before we'd mostly die before we got disease. maybe man was not made to live to 75, much less 95.

I say this as someone who consumed an entire bag of Doritos after 5 beers last night at 11pm watching Letterman.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

given my previous post, it made me think........are we the only species that has increased our life expectancy throughout evolution? but at what price?

that should tell us something.