Pope Francis: wasting food is stealing from the poor

PJ_Soul

Yeah, he said that. Made statements about cultures of waste, and that wasting food is a sin.

Not that i don't agree - I do (well, not the "sin" part, but you know what i mean) - but it would probably have a lot more impact if the Catholic church would stop literally surrounding itself with gold, hoarding billions of dollars, and dressing its police force in fucking $8000 Versace uniforms.

know1

I agree on both points. I think wasting food is like stealing from the poor and I think the Catholic church wastes a lot of money that it could be spending on the poor.

brianlux

Yeah- it really does seem a bit hypocritical. Just look at the news photos of the Vatican with all these guys in their fancy red costumes and jewelry and gold, gold, gold!

hedonist

I think there's plenty of food to go around; the fact that some people go hungry when there's such an abundance is shameful.

(all-you-can-eat buffets, bottomless bowls of soup, serving up a plate of food to ONE person that could feed a small family, etc. Really, what the fuck?)

There are many guilty of damning something in one breath and then embracing it in the next.

PJ_Soul

hedonist wrote:

I think there's plenty of food to go around; the fact that some people go hungry when there's such an abundance is shameful.

(all-you-can-eat buffets, bottomless bowls of soup, serving up a plate of food to ONE person that could feed a small family, etc. Really, what the fuck?)

There are many guilty of damning something in one breath and then embracing it in the next.

Yeah, food waste in the Western world IS shameful - grocery stores throw out perfectly good food daily - a LOT of it - just because it's the same date as the best before date on the item. Doesn't matter if it's still good or not. There is actually a kind of environmental movement in some large cities in North America where fairly large groups of people make a point of getting as much fresh food as they can from the city's trash bins - those behind or in front of all those stores that discard good food.

But I think the Pope has a lot of nerve making statements about that while he wears a handmade silk getup that costs thousands of dollars. It's like Donald Trump going off about how shameful the wage gap in America is and how everyone should be doing more to close it. It's just ludicrous.

chadwick

wasting food is fucking bullshit

Cosmo

A couple of things about excess food...
Remember Beanie Babies? Remember how they were given away as part of McDonalds Happy Meals?
Well, a lot of adults were buying up those Happy Meals to gather up the Beanie Babies to sell on EBay. They didn't give a shit about the Happy Meal and tossed the food in the trash. McDonalds policy was you must buy the Happy Meal, in order to get the free gift... otherwise, these adults would have bought up the toys and the kids would get none.
It was/is illegal for a group to collect and distribute the meals to the homeless because of legal and helath reasons. If someone got sick from the meal, McDonalds was off the hook and the distribtor, either a charitable organization, church or individual would be held liable. If the homeless person would have pulled the meal from the garbage container, no one could be held liable.
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Also, did you know that the leftover perisables at the Starbucks and other food service restaurants cannot be donated to soup kitchens? It is the same thing... legal issues that place deep pockets Starbucks at risk to lawsuits, should someone get sick. I had my friend who work there give them to me and i ate them because i'm not a douche who would sue my friend or Starbuck... and I like their doughnuts.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

A couple of things about excess food...
Remember Beanie Babies? Remember how they were given away as part of McDonalds Happy Meals?
Well, a lot of adults were buying up those Happy Meals to gather up the Beanie Babies to sell on EBay. They didn't give a shit about the Happy Meal and tossed the food in the trash. McDonalds policy was you must buy the Happy Meal, in order to get the free gift... otherwise, these adults would have bought up the toys and the kids would get none.
It was/is illegal for a group to collect and distribute the meals to the homeless because of legal and helath reasons. If someone got sick from the meal, McDonalds was off the hook and the distribtor, either a charitable organization, church or individual would be held liable. If the homeless person would have pulled the meal from the garbage container, no one could be held liable.
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Also, did you know that the leftover perisables at the Starbucks and other food service restaurants cannot be donated to soup kitchens? It is the same thing... legal issues that place deep pockets Starbucks at risk to lawsuits, should someone get sick. I had my friend who work there give them to me and i ate them because i'm not a douche who would sue my friend or Starbuck... and I like their doughnuts.

Yeah, of course it's about legal issues. I'm sure a lot of stores would give the food away if they could, but they can't. I'm sure another motivation would be to keep crowds of hungry people away from their back doors every night. Anyway, the laws should definitely be changed to allow for excess food to go to some kind of immediate free perishable food program on the local level.

Cosmo

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yeah, of course it's about legal issues. I'm sure a lot of stores would give the food away if they could, but they can't. I'm sure another motivation would be to keep crowds of hungry people away from their back doors every night. Anyway, the laws should definitely be changed to allow for excess food to go to some kind of immediate free perishable food program.

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The homeless guy that is eating out of a dumpster probably doesn't care that much about helth issues and just wants something to eat.
It's those people who are looking to make a buck off of those businesses that a fucking it all up.
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and those douchebag adults wasting all of those Happy Meals. i know, Happy Meals are not the greatest food... but, when you are starving... it'll do.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yeah, of course it's about legal issues. I'm sure a lot of stores would give the food away if they could, but they can't. I'm sure another motivation would be to keep crowds of hungry people away from their back doors every night. Anyway, the laws should definitely be changed to allow for excess food to go to some kind of immediate free perishable food program.

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The homeless guy that is eating out of a dumpster probably doesn't care that much about helth issues and just wants something to eat.
It's those people who are looking to make a buck off of those businesses that a fucking it all up.
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and those douchebag adults wasting all of those Happy Meals. i know, Happy Meals are not the greatest food... but, when you are starving... it'll do.

McDonald's cheeseburger and fries? I think it's yummy. I only eat at McD's maybe 3 times a year, really hungover, but I think it's sinfully tasty (I mean, not great burger tasty obviously, but still... and I really really like their fries). If I'd been into those stupid Beanie Babies that much I'd have gained 300 lbs.

gimmesometruth27

i agree with the pope in this case.

did hell just freeze over or somethin'??

Moonpig

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i agree with the pope in this case.

did hell just freeze over or somethin'??

It has been pretty cold down here lately so anything's possible

gimmesometruth27

Moonpig wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i agree with the pope in this case.

did hell just freeze over or somethin'??

It has been pretty cold down here lately so anything's possible

this pope has been much more "progressive" in a lot of areas than the last couple of popes. i am waiting for some "accident" to befall him, because that is what happens to people who dare to try to change tradition.

josevolution

Moonpig wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i agree with the pope in this case.

did hell just freeze over or somethin'??

It has been pretty cold down here lately so anything's possible

At least we are not alone

mookeywrench

Cosmo wrote:

Also, did you know that the leftover perisables at the Starbucks and other food service restaurants cannot be donated to soup kitchens? It is the same thing... legal issues that place deep pockets Starbucks at risk to lawsuits, should someone get sick. I had my friend who work there give them to me and i ate them because i'm not a douche who would sue my friend or Starbuck... and I like their doughnuts.

Perishables yes, but it should be noted that Starbucks donates all of its leftover pastry items and non perishables to food banks...unless "deep pocketed" Starbucks baristas swipe them for themselves. And for not donating perishables to avoid litigation...who is at fault in the big picture? The person withholding food? Or the person wanting to sue at any chance they get?

PJ_Soul

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i agree with the pope in this case.

did hell just freeze over or somethin'??

It has been pretty cold down here lately so anything's possible

this pope has been much more "progressive" in a lot of areas than the last couple of popes. i am waiting for some "accident" to befall him, because that is what happens to people who dare to try to change tradition.

I don't think that saying food waste is bad is progressive. When he says that Catholics should use condoms to prevent the spread of STDs, that teaching abstinence in schools is stupid, that stem cell research is beneficial to the world, and/or that women can be priests, then I'll say he's progressive. Right now he's just stating the obvious and highlighting the Church's outrageous hypocrisy.

dimitrispearljam

Moonpig wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i agree with the pope in this case.

did hell just freeze over or somethin'??

It has been pretty cold down here lately so anything's possible

dimitrispearljam

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

this pope has been much more "progressive" in a lot of areas than the last couple of popes. i am waiting for some "accident" to befall him, because that is what happens to people who dare to try to change tradition.

he is from Argentina..more passioned than the others!..but changing tradition,not gonna be easy!

PJ_Soul

mookeywrench wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Also, did you know that the leftover perisables at the Starbucks and other food service restaurants cannot be donated to soup kitchens? It is the same thing... legal issues that place deep pockets Starbucks at risk to lawsuits, should someone get sick. I had my friend who work there give them to me and i ate them because i'm not a douche who would sue my friend or Starbuck... and I like their doughnuts.

Perishables yes, but it should be noted that Starbucks donates all of its leftover pastry items and non perishables to food banks...unless "deep pocketed" Starbucks baristas swipe them for themselves. And for not donating perishables to avoid litigation...who is at fault in the big picture? The person withholding food? Or the person wanting to sue at any chance they get?

Secret option number 3: the laws or lack thereof. It would not be hard to make it legally impossible to sue for that specific reason.

Moonpig

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i agree with the pope in this case.

did hell just freeze over or somethin'??

It has been pretty cold down here lately so anything's possible

He'll may well have frozen over, Ireland hotter than some places in Greece, and to trump that Wexford were playing Dublin in the all Ireland championship, as massive underdogs and we draw against them, so cracking day all around. Laugh all you want dimi but all is looking well brother