The Strange Death of Ibragim Todashev
JimmyV
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I am not one for wild conspiracy theories, particularly those surrounding the Boston bombings, many of which were conjured up while bodies were still bleeding on Boylston Street. That said...the case of Ibragim Todashev and the story behind how he came to be shot and killed by law enforcement while willingly being questioned is beyond strange. And that the story keeps changing is not just strange. It is disturbing.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... up/276369/
Why Did the FBI Kill an Unarmed Man and Clam Up?
Law enforcement can't get its story straight in the worrisome case of Ibragim Todashev.
Conor Friedersdorf May 30 2013, 10:44 AM ET
"It is difficult to understand how, having shot the man dead, the multiple law enforcement personnel on scene could've gotten the details wrong. Discrepancies can creep into an account of a stressful situation. But how can there possibly be confusion about whether the suspect was a) wielding a knife, per the original story; b) unarmed, per subsequent versions; c) or lunging with or toward a samurai sword? We're supposed to believe that multiple law enforcement personnel went to a man's apartment, confirmed via his own confession that he participated in a triple murder with an alleged terrorist, and still left him within reach of a samurai sword? And that, after he lunged toward one agent with the sword, or else lunged toward the sword, or an officer's gun, or something, there was so much confusion that it was reported for days that the suspect attacked with a knife? Come on. Law enforcement couldn't get its story straight.
At best, an incompetently handled suspect was given access to a weapon so dangerous it justified using deadly force in response. Perhaps that's all this is. Or perhaps it will turn out that Todashev was wrongfully killed. The facts known to the public are worrisome enough that an independent inquiry is justified. In addition, this case illustrates why the FBI ought to be required to record all of its interrogations, using video when possible and at least audio in all circumstances."
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... up/276369/
Why Did the FBI Kill an Unarmed Man and Clam Up?
Law enforcement can't get its story straight in the worrisome case of Ibragim Todashev.
Conor Friedersdorf May 30 2013, 10:44 AM ET
"It is difficult to understand how, having shot the man dead, the multiple law enforcement personnel on scene could've gotten the details wrong. Discrepancies can creep into an account of a stressful situation. But how can there possibly be confusion about whether the suspect was a) wielding a knife, per the original story; b) unarmed, per subsequent versions; c) or lunging with or toward a samurai sword? We're supposed to believe that multiple law enforcement personnel went to a man's apartment, confirmed via his own confession that he participated in a triple murder with an alleged terrorist, and still left him within reach of a samurai sword? And that, after he lunged toward one agent with the sword, or else lunged toward the sword, or an officer's gun, or something, there was so much confusion that it was reported for days that the suspect attacked with a knife? Come on. Law enforcement couldn't get its story straight.
At best, an incompetently handled suspect was given access to a weapon so dangerous it justified using deadly force in response. Perhaps that's all this is. Or perhaps it will turn out that Todashev was wrongfully killed. The facts known to the public are worrisome enough that an independent inquiry is justified. In addition, this case illustrates why the FBI ought to be required to record all of its interrogations, using video when possible and at least audio in all circumstances."
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It just felt like a fuck-up from the minute the story came out. Now Johnny Taxpayer gets to foot the bill.
maybe an agent saved the tax payers a lot of money and time ? we should just leave it at that.
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Isn't fair trials and all that part of the freedom you say is unique to your country? Interesting that you are happy to forego these values when ever it should suit. Unarmed man shot dead and some celebrate, American exceptional ism indeed, you can have it
The fact that you have paused to question it...........now on to 911 for you my young jedi warrior.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
well given the crime he is guilty of...good riddens.
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Edit: It is incredibly ironic that those who beat the freedom and constitution drum at the drop of the hat also throw the right to a fair trial out the door at the drop of the hat.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I like cake especially after beating on my drum
just say'n the guy was guilty and got caught up in something he couldn't get away from and it's a done deal.
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It's funny because they don't see it themselves. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty, silly me
It is still quite possible that he did turn violent, did attack his questioners, and was killed in a justifiable fashion. But the more twists and turns this story takes the harder it is for that to be believed.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
even in acts of terrorism...give them a good lawyer to prove reasonable doubt and they could walk mean while the people they killed and ruined the lifes of others still deal with the aftermath of the terrorest's actions but it's ok cause they went to court and were found innocent....my ass.
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It is comical
Lol, that's a bit of a stretch. Anyway, unarmed man shot dead, horrible for his family. Ignorance is just that, can't expect it to change as long as it is accepted by society
it is unfathomable to me that you are ready and willing to allow the police take the law into their own hands and execute someone who hasn't had due process.
I guess you'd be ok with it if it was a case of mistaken identity and then they just said "whoops!".
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Your thoughts on the subject are cleary anti-American... maybe we should execute you without a trial.
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Hey... aren't there the SAME POLICE that will be assigned the task of coming to take away our guns?
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nooooo we don't need anymore islamic terrorest bullshit anymore.
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