Southern fan . . . better keep your head

mysticweed

To classify all southerners as racist idiots is just as bigoted as the bigots apparently some would perceive us all to be.

Look in the mirror while you’re making generalizations about an entire group of people.

I admit my feelings were hurt by some of the words offered up from people whom I happen to hold in high regard.

I believe we would all agree that slavery is an abomination
Vikings marauded Slavic villages on a routine basis, enslaving the inhabitants.
The damned word slave is derived from Slavic
Now is everyone going to jump on a bandwagon and start bashing people of Nordic descent?
Of course not – it’s ridiculous

And another thing
For the roughly half of you out there who are men
You know NOTHING ABOUT discrimination
except to be highly likely guilty of sexual discrimination
I know it and you know it
What’s that? – why, it’s just another generalization

It’s simply wrong to make inane assumptions based on
Gender or gender preference or race or intelligence
or where someone was born

Shame on us all

Byrnzie

mysticweed wrote:

For the roughly half of you out there who are men
You know NOTHING ABOUT discrimination
except to be highly likely guilty of sexual discrimination

It’s simply wrong to make inane assumptions based on
Gender or gender preference or race or intelligence

Erm, didn't you just do exactly that?

mysticweed

Byrnzie wrote:

mysticweed wrote:

For the roughly half of you out there who are men
You know NOTHING ABOUT discrimination
except to be highly likely guilty of sexual discrimination

It’s simply wrong to make inane assumptions based on
Gender or gender preference or race or intelligence

Erm, didn't you just do exactly that?

my point

you didn't quote
"why, it's just a generalization"

changed it to another for the slower chauvinists
(see, there's another generalization)

Last-12-Exit

What hurt your feelings?

mysticweed

Last-12-Exit wrote:

What hurt your feelings?

it seems to me that the general consensus as of late is that all southerners are
confederate flag-waving beer swilling nascar loving skynyrd fans

trust me i am none of those

and i don't believe all men are chauvinist pigs
i was making a point!

and btw
aside from the whole con-flag thing
there's nothing wrong with those other things
they're just not me

Go Beavers

I thought this article was interesting:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2322892/The-racist-map-America-Tweets-analyzed-offensive-keywords-reveal-hateful-parts-US-people-hated.html

After living in one of the red zones, and also outside of the red zone, I find some validity in it.

redrock

Interesting Go Beavers.

Here is a link to the interactive maps (and in large). One can select a 'hate word' in the various categories.
http://users.humboldt.edu/mstephens/hate/hate_map.html#


Though obviously this is a very limited 'study', there is a definite pattern when one looks at each word individually (or even each category as a whole).

Certain regions/states repeatedly in the red overall. So many factors involved - history, religion, inner city, high density population (or the opposite), attitudes....

As you, having lived both in the 'red' and the 'no colour', I do find some relevance in it but... what is the purpose of this study? Point a finger? Try to make this change? Any of our politicians interested in this?

hedonist

redrock wrote:

Point a finger? Try to make this change?

I think it's a bit of both - in general .

We're all subjected to stereotypes and finger-pointing. In the former, there sometimes is truth - sometimes. But also exaggerated.

My guy lived in SC for several years and did come across many of the "y'all" types. Also came to know some really decent down-to-earth people. Could say the same for LA; look to your left and view a glut of fake tits. To the right, weird lips and eyebrows that don't move. A general look-at-me-itis. And yet, amid and among that, is - yet again - salt of the earth.

I guess, in the end, just be yourself. Those who need or have to use a broad paintbrush will; those who are willing to see, hopefully will...and I'm aware that clarity shows both the good and the bad. And the in-between.



(pffft. I really have no clue and will use "it's Monday morning" as my disclaimer )

STAYSEA

mysticweed wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

What hurt your feelings?

i strive to keep words from hurting
but
it seemed to me that the general consensus as of late is that all southerners are
confederate flag-waving beer swilling nascar loving skynyrd fans

trust me i am none of those

and i don't believe all men are chauvinist pigs
i was making a point!

Give me a zipcode? I make house calls. I've lived and am living about as far south as a Southerner can go.

BinauralJam

This is the Greatest thing to come out of the South!

Jason P

BinauralJam wrote:

This is the Greatest thing to come out of the South!

fixed

mysticweed

BinauralJam wrote:

This is the Greatest thing to come out of the South!

ah my tolerant and temperate BJ

and there is serious disagreement from state to state about sauce
i haven't eaten pig in over 10 years
but the thick, sweet sauce was the best

vant0037

mysticweed wrote:

it seems to me that the general consensus as of late is that all southerners are
confederate flag-waving beer swilling nascar loving skynyrd fans

Who said that? I believe many of us were arguing that the Confederate flag is a symbol of slavery and racism.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

vant0037 wrote:

mysticweed wrote:

it seems to me that the general consensus as of late is that all southerners are
confederate flag-waving beer swilling nascar loving skynyrd fans

Who said that? I believe many of us were arguing that the Confederate flag is a symbol of slavery and racism.

And what's wrong with Lynyrd Skynyrd?

mysticweed

vant0037 wrote:

mysticweed wrote:

it seems to me that the general consensus as of late is that all southerners are
confederate flag-waving beer swilling nascar loving skynyrd fans

Who said that? I believe many of us were arguing that the Confederate flag is a symbol of slavery and racism.

yes most of us were
still
there were several derogatory remarks made about the south and southerners in general and my puny attempts at contradicting them were disregarded
just being able to express myself has taken out much of the sting
that
and a picture of BBQ

mysticweed

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

mysticweed wrote:

it seems to me that the general consensus as of late is that all southerners are
confederate flag-waving beer swilling nascar loving skynyrd fans

Who said that? I believe many of us were arguing that the Confederate flag is a symbol of slavery and racism.

And what's wrong with Lynyrd Skynyrd?

oh fuck me
i went back to that
nothing's wrong with skynyrd or nascar (although that's debatable) or beer

BinauralJam

mysticweed wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

This is the Greatest thing to come out of the South!

ah my tolerant and temperate BJ

and there is serious disagreement from state to state about sauce
i haven't eaten pig in over 10 years
but the thick, sweet sauce was the best

North Carolina does it the Right way! Why wouldn't you eat pig? Oh that picture has me drooling.

mysticweed

yep north carolina sweet sauce
i haven't eaten flesh at all in about seven years, but pig was the first to go long before
if you're ever on the fence about eating meat
work near a chicken plant

Last-12-Exit

mysticweed wrote:

yep north carolina sweet sauce
i haven't eaten flesh at all in about seven years, but pig was the first to go long before
if you're ever on the fence about eating meat
work near a chicken plant

Lol. In the "worst job ever" thread, mine was and still is my summer at a chicken farm.

BinauralJam

mysticweed wrote:

yep north carolina sweet sauce
i haven't eaten flesh at all in about seven years, but pig was the first to go long before
if you're ever on the fence about eating meat
work near a chicken plant

It's one of those things, it's obviously the right thing to do but i wont.
I'll probably be reincarnated as veal as punishment.

riotgrl

As someone who was saying harsh things about the south in that original thread, I will say that much of my harshness has to do with frustration. I am frustrated being a southerner and always being depicted as some backwoods redneck that is intolerant and full of hate. I know much of that comes from the media but if you aren't well-acquainted with the south or southerners (and isn't that true of anywhere?) you have a tendency to believe those stereotypes. And in all honesty, I do find a lot of subtle racism amongst my friends and family (and if I'm to be honest, then I have my moments as well :oops: ). I think having the conversation about racism is a good thing - hard to do, hard to hear things that might be harsh truths, but ultimately I think it could clear away those misconceptions. Of course, conversations that sensitive are easier to have in person because then you can read those emotions, like frustration, that aren't always clear when you're typing words and using emoticons to express yourself