Justice Dept secretly obtains AP phone records

pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,475
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
Yeeeeikes. I picked the wrong week to reject voices warning of tyranny.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/govt-obt ... ords-probe
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  • pjl44 wrote:
    Yeeeeikes. I picked the wrong week to reject voices warning of tyranny.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/govt-obt ... ords-probe

    No Amendment is safe with this administration!
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,056
    We're all naked as jay birds. Write a letter. Nobody will have a clue as to what you're doing. :lol:
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,173
    Curious to hear the explanation for this one. Hard to believe there is a satisfactory one for this.
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    "We are not involved in decisions made in connection with criminal investigations, as those matters are handled independently by the Justice Department," spokesman Jay Carney said.

    That does not surprise me.... that's there excuse for everything...
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Okay... FOX News, FOX News watchers... THIS is the story you should get behind. Forget about your bullshit stories about Benghazi and birth certificates and taking away your fucking guns and socialist/communist/fascist indoctrinations... this is a REAL Problem. THIS is an example of government overreach... THIS is the bullshit we should all be getting pissed about.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Thank you Bush/Cheney for the Patriot Act?

    If you got nothing to hide don't worry about it.

    At least that's what's what I was told by the GOP.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Smellyman wrote:
    Thank you Bush/Cheney for the Patriot Act?

    If you got nothing to hide don't worry about it.

    At least that's what's what I was told by the GOP.


    and just about every sitting senator at the time of its passage...the patriot act was a travesty, it was signed into law by Bush, but it certainly wasn't a one way street.

    1 senator voted against it when it originally was voted on. 11 when it was renewed.

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/patriota ... vote.shtml

    If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about is a common theme when rights are being violated.

    Brian is correct...write letters and have them privately couriered :lol:
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    The govt was probably just making sure that the reporters, strictly reporting the only news that they are allowed to by the corporately owned and gov't controlled media, were doing their jobs and not digging for real dirty news behind the scenes.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Attorney General Eric Holder on Tuesday said he recused himself last year from a national security leak probe in which prosecutors obtained the phone records of Associated Press journalists.

    Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Holder said he made the decision to recuse himself in the Justice Department's investigation involving a leak of classified information to the AP, because he had "frequent contact with the media."

    ....

    The Justice Department has brought more prosecutions against current or former government officials for providing classified information to the media than every previous administration combined and has convicted six government officials for leaking information.


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/05/14/holder-phone-records-ap/2158539/
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Holders unaware, Obama never knows about anything or is not involved with anything .....These people are admitting they are just plain ignorant....
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    There does seem to be a lot of unawareness in the White House.

    Make no mistake. I was unaware of that event.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Cosmo wrote:
    Okay... FOX News, FOX News watchers... THIS is the story you should get behind. Forget about your bullshit stories about Benghazi and birth certificates and taking away your fucking guns and socialist/communist/fascist indoctrinations... this is a REAL Problem. THIS is an example of government overreach... THIS is the bullshit we should all be getting pissed about.


    There's a lot more than just this that should piss people off. Just about everything these assclowns have done since 9/11 should piss people off.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jon Stewart spent his second straight night on The Daily Show ripping into President Barack Obama, this time hammering him for always seeming to find out about major news events at the same time as the rest of the public. Or so he says.

    Stewart highlighted Obama's press conference on Monday, when he began an answer on the IRS scandal by saying that he had only learned about it on Friday when news reports began trickling out.

    Stewart noted how Obama has made similar statements in the past — after the "Fast and Furious" ATF gun-walking scandal, the 2009 Air Force One flyover in New York, and Monday's news that the Justice Department had obtained months of phone records from the Associated Press.

    "You know, I wouldn't be surprised if President Obama learned Osama bin Laden had been killed when he saw himself announcing it on television," Stewart quipped.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stew ... z2TN3dkhUn
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/5/15/c ... _ap_phones

    Chris Hedges: Monitoring of AP Phones a "Terrifying" Step in State Assault on Press Freedom
    Wednesday, May 15, 2013


    AMY GOODMAN: Your response to this revelation about the—about what happened with AP and the U.S. government?

    CHRIS HEDGES: Well, it’s part of a pattern. That’s what’s so frightening. And it’s a pattern that we’ve seen, with the use of the Espionage Act, to essentially silence whistleblowers within the government—Kiriakou, Drake and others, although Kiriakou went to jail on—pled out on another charge—the FISA Amendment Act, which allows for warrantless wiretapping, the National Defense Authorization Act, which allows for the stripping of American citizens of due process and indefinite detention. And it is one more assault in a long series of assault against freedom of information and freedom of the press. And I would also, of course, throw in the persecution of Julian Assange at WikiLeaks and Bradley Manning as part of that process.

    NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, Chris Hedges, you wrote in the recent article that was published, your article "Death of Truth" in Truthdig and Nation magazine—you also write about the significance of the Espionage Act and how often it’s been invoked, and you say that it eviscerates the possibility of an independent press. So could you talk about the Espionage Act and how it also is somehow related to this AP story?

    CHRIS HEDGES: Well, it’s been used six times by the Obama administration. It was written in 1917 and was—is our Foreign Secrets Act. It is never meant—it was not designed to shut down whistleblowers, first used against Daniel Ellsberg in the Pentagon Papers. So, three times from 1917 until Obama takes office in 2009, six times. And if you talk to investigative journalists in this country, who must investigate the inner workings of government, no one will talk, even on background. People are terrified. And this is, of course—the seizure of two months of records, of AP records, is not really about going after AP; it’s about going after that person or those people who leaked this story and shutting them down. And this canard that it endangered American life is—you know, there’s no evidence for this.

    ...CHRIS HEDGES: Well, I find, you know, all of these measures to essentially shut down the freedom of information, including the persecution of Assange and Manning, as symptomatic of a reconfiguration of our society into a totalitarian security and surveillance state, one where anyone who challenges the official narrative, who digs out cases of torture, war crimes—which is, of course, what Manning and Assange presented to the American public—is going to be ruthlessly silenced. And I find the passivity on the part of the mainstream press, publications like The New York Times, The Guardian, El País, Der Spiegel, all of which, of course, used this information, and turning their backs on Manning and Assange, to be very shortsighted for precisely this reason. If they think it’s just about Manning and Assange, then they have no conception of what it is that’s happening. And, you know, everyone knows, within the administration, within the National Security Council, the effects of climate change, the instability that that will cause, the economic deterioration, which is irreversible, and they want the mechanisms by which they can criminalize any form of dissent. And that’s finally what this is about.
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