New Frontier is Mars, 78,000 peopel think so anyway

Godfather.
Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
About 78,000 people have applied to become Red Planet colonists with the nonprofit organization Mars One since its application process opened on April 22, officials announced Tuesday, May 7. Mars One aims to land four people on the Red Planet in 2023 as the vanguard of a permanent colony, with more astronauts arriving every two years thereafter.



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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    I wish we would instead focus on some of the moons of Jupiter or Saturn, where we might find life and be able perhaps colonize. Mars is a Giant Rock, there's little value other then it's close.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    I'm with E.O. Wilson. The New frontier is the micro rather than the macro. Space travel is a total waste of money IMHO.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    It would be easier to colonize at the bottom of the ocean than Mars
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    brianlux wrote:
    I'm with E.O. Wilson. The New frontier is the micro rather than the macro. Space travel is a total waste of money IMHO.

    you have to admire the balls of these volenteers,it's a one way ticket...no coming back.
    but I also wonder how could they survive without a natural water sourse,mars has ice under it's thin upper crust
    but is that enough to sustain life for a long period of time ?

    Godfather.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    Godfather. wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    I'm with E.O. Wilson. The New frontier is the micro rather than the macro. Space travel is a total waste of money IMHO.

    you have to admire the balls of these volenteers,it's a one way ticket...no coming back.
    but I also wonder how could they survive without a natural water sourse,mars has ice under it's thin upper crust
    but is that enough to sustain life for a long period of time ?

    Godfather.

    Except the ice is made entirely of Co2. Who knows what diseases are out there, the main killer of new colonies.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    edited May 2013
    I am a really really surprised that some of you don't think this is awesome. Space exploration is an amazing human experiment, and incredibly worthwhile IMO, not only for scientific discovery, but also for growing the human imagination. Not everything is about money (although there are likely great riches to be had in space too, in mining). And of course they're aiming for Mars because its closest. That's where they can get to right now. One step at a time, right? They will learn a lot doing this, and find further advancements.

    The fact that this project actually seems to be happening (if the company involved doesn't go bankrupt between now and 2028) completely blows my mind. I think it's super cool. Doesn't a sense of adventure motivate people anymore? If it doesn't, too bad for you.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    mookeywrench wrote:
    It would be easier to colonize at the bottom of the ocean than Mars
    That's boring.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    It would be easier to colonize at the bottom of the ocean than Mars
    That's boring.

    It's not boring! :P

    The ocean is incredible! Crazy as fuck the deeper you go!
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    brianlux wrote:
    I'm with E.O. Wilson. The New frontier is the micro rather than the macro. Space travel is a total waste of money IMHO.

    It is right now because travelling to space is so inefficient
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    It would be easier to colonize at the bottom of the ocean than Mars
    That's boring.

    Boring, did you say? :lol:

    Sea_zps5ff20b12.jpg
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    brianlux wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    It would be easier to colonize at the bottom of the ocean than Mars
    That's boring.

    Boring, did you say? :lol:

    Sea_zps5ff20b12.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aoPd4dHWrA
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    It would be easier to colonize at the bottom of the ocean than Mars
    That's boring.

    It's not boring! :P

    The ocean is incredible! Crazy as fuck the deeper you go!
    Yeah, the ocean's awesome, but there is no need to live down there. It's close enough that people can commute. The adventure in getting there isn't as challenging either... not compared to colonizing Mars!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    edited May 2013
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    I'm with E.O. Wilson. The New frontier is the micro rather than the macro. Space travel is a total waste of money IMHO.

    It is right now because travelling to space is so inefficient
    Yeah, which is why they need to try projects like this - so they can make advancements and improve efficiency over time.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Yeah, the ocean's awesome, but there is no need to live down there. It's close enough that people can commute. The adventure in getting there isn't as challenging either... not compared to colonizing Mars!

    K

    :lol:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Yeah, the ocean's awesome, but there is no need to live down there. It's close enough that people can commute. The adventure in getting there isn't as challenging either... not compared to colonizing Mars!

    K

    :lol:
    :will shrug: What are you laughing at? I know it's a challenge getting to the deepest depths, but it's still not comparable to building a community on another planet!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That's boring.

    Boring, did you say? :lol:

    Sea_zps5ff20b12.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aoPd4dHWrA
    I went on that ride when I was a kid. It was cool!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Yeah, the ocean's awesome, but there is no need to live down there. It's close enough that people can commute. The adventure in getting there isn't as challenging either... not compared to colonizing Mars!

    K

    :lol:
    What are you laughing at?

    My response
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That's boring.

    It's not boring! :P

    The ocean is incredible! Crazy as fuck the deeper you go!
    Yeah, the ocean's awesome, but there is no need to live down there. It's close enough that people can commute. The adventure in getting there isn't as challenging either... not compared to colonizing Mars!

    I'm good with living on terra firma which has plenty of good points and it's own challenges. I don't see Mars or living under the ocean as being better or less challenging. Now, if only I could find that greener grass on this planet. Take that any way you want. :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    I don't think this is an issue of whether or not it would be amazing, but rather an issue of whether or this idea should be sold to people at a point in time when it is not technologically, economically, or biologically feasible.

    Snake oil
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:

    K

    :lol:
    What are you laughing at?

    My response
    The dreaded "K". :fp:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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