For you PotHeads, a great read.

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
Forty-five years ago, Dr. Lester Grinspoon, now an associate professor emeritus of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, would have never agreed with the idea of marijuana as a medicine. He thought his friends who lit up were ruining their health. Who would blame him? The U.S. government seemed to agree. In 1970, it classified marijuana as a Schedule I drug—alongside heroin and LSD—as a substance with high abuse potential and no accepted medical purpose....but..



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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,388
    The thing is, Godfather, smoking isn't the only way to use marijuana. It can be ingested when cooked, made into a butter, or vaporized. Besides, with the higher potency bud, a puff or two is going to be less problematic for the lungs than just plain breathing in a lot of places.

    Oh, and why is it that I find it surprising that FOX News would publish an anti-pot article? :lol:
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,388
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    How does that go again?
    Drugs Are Really Excellent?
    Drugs Always Rouse Eating?
    Drugs Activate Radical Elevation?

    I can't remember. :lol:
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    brianlux wrote:
    spr-dare1.jpg

    How does that go again?
    Drugs Are Really Excellent?
    Drugs Always Rouse Eating?
    Drugs Activate Radical Elevation?

    I can't remember. :lol:

    :lol::lol::lol:

    Thanks for that
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux wrote:
    The thing is, Godfather, smoking isn't the only way to use marijuana. It can be ingested when cooked, made into a butter, or vaporized. Besides, with the higher potency bud, a puff or two is going to be less problematic for the lungs than just plain breathing in a lot of places.

    Oh, and why is it that I find it surprising that FOX News would publish an anti-pot article? :lol:
    My preferred method is smoking it; I just dig the process / ritual, not to mention the result. But when Danny had his lung surgeries (and was in pain, desperately trying not to go the Vicodin route), I'd make him "firecrackers" - long process cut short, crackers with Nutella/peanut butter and semi-cooked weed. A different, deeper high. But damned if it didn't provide him relief.

    Once again, the more advertisements I see for drugs for antidepressants, fibromyalgia, arthritis, etc., and the ridiculous side-effects, I'm floored that something with so many benefits is still, in this supposedly-enlightened age, villified.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,388
    hedonist wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    The thing is, Godfather, smoking isn't the only way to use marijuana. It can be ingested when cooked, made into a butter, or vaporized. Besides, with the higher potency bud, a puff or two is going to be less problematic for the lungs than just plain breathing in a lot of places.

    Oh, and why is it that I find it surprising that FOX News would publish an anti-pot article? :lol:
    My preferred method is smoking it; I just dig the process / ritual, not to mention the result. But when Danny had his lung surgeries (and was in pain, desperately trying not to go the Vicodin route), I'd make him "firecrackers" - long process cut short, crackers with Nutella/peanut butter and semi-cooked weed. A different, deeper high. But damned if it didn't provide him relief.

    Once again, the more advertisements I see for drugs for antidepressants, fibromyalgia, arthritis, etc., and the ridiculous side-effects, I'm floored that something with so many benefits is still, in this supposedly-enlightened age, villified.

    Exactly! We're bombarded in the media with ads for these frankenchemicals and yet here good old Mother Nature has provided us with something wonderfully helpful that has had a bad rap for decade upon decade. I'm encouraged though to know that we're finally getting closer to acceptance and maybe even legalization. I would love to live to see that happen.

    And I hope your Danny is ok- not sure I remember hearing about this.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux wrote:
    Exactly! We're bombarded in the media with ads for these frankenchemicals and yet here good old Mother Nature has provided us with something wonderfully helpful that has had a bad rap for decade upon decade. I'm encouraged though to know that we're finally getting closer to acceptance and maybe even legalization. I would love to live to see that happen.

    And I hope your Danny is ok- not sure I remember hearing about this.
    Frankenchemicals - I love it! Get that copyrighted :)

    And thank you - last one was just four years ago. Scary times - hopefully no more *knocks wood*

    (we have a love/hate relationship with Cedars Sinai :mrgreen: )
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,388
    hedonist wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Exactly! We're bombarded in the media with ads for these frankenchemicals and yet here good old Mother Nature has provided us with something wonderfully helpful that has had a bad rap for decade upon decade. I'm encouraged though to know that we're finally getting closer to acceptance and maybe even legalization. I would love to live to see that happen.

    And I hope your Danny is ok- not sure I remember hearing about this.
    Frankenchemicals - I love it! Get that copyrighted :)

    And thank you - last one was just four years ago. Scary times - hopefully no more *knocks wood*

    (we have a love/hate relationship with Cedars Sinai :mrgreen: )

    Glad to hear things are better. Good thoughts going out for you both!
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    What people put into their own bodies should be their own business ... no one else's. What always amazes is that most of the folks against marijuana use are the christian right wing ... marijuana is grown here on earth and if your a member of one of those cults (religion or political group or both) then you'd say God put it on earth for people to enjoy if he chooses ... so by not allowing people who choose to enjoy the pleasure ... are you then not questioning God, and I thought God was all knowing and powerful, and your questioning him... :nono: :nono: :nono:
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    gee
    i'll have to think about how i feel about this . . .
    and i know JUST what i need
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    thank you goes out to the entire marijuana industry, culture & all the strains of the plant involved. & may all the male plants be removed but seeding a few ;)

    we love you green ladies :mrgreen:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I find that any title to an article on Fox News with the word "Truth" in it, is definitely a lie. :lol:
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    hedonist wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    The thing is, Godfather, smoking isn't the only way to use marijuana. It can be ingested when cooked, made into a butter, or vaporized. Besides, with the higher potency bud, a puff or two is going to be less problematic for the lungs than just plain breathing in a lot of places.

    Oh, and why is it that I find it surprising that FOX News would publish an anti-pot article? :lol:
    My preferred method is smoking it; I just dig the process / ritual, not to mention the result. But when Danny had his lung surgeries (and was in pain, desperately trying not to go the Vicodin route), I'd make him "firecrackers" - long process cut short, crackers with Nutella/peanut butter and semi-cooked weed. A different, deeper high. But damned if it didn't provide him relief.

    Once again, the more advertisements I see for drugs for antidepressants, fibromyalgia, arthritis, etc., and the ridiculous side-effects, I'm floored that something with so many benefits is still, in this supposedly-enlightened age, villified.

    I've been on a number of ridiculous pain killers while recovering. Not one drug had zero side effects. But weed? If hunger counts as a side effect, that's as bad as it gets. Seriously. Oh, and that it intensifies nerve pain. Only one drug worked for that sort of Hell!
  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    brianlux wrote:
    The thing is, Godfather, smoking isn't the only way to use marijuana. It can be ingested when cooked, made into a butter, or vaporized. Besides, with the higher potency bud, a puff or two is going to be less problematic for the lungs than just plain breathing in a lot of places.

    Oh, and why is it that I find it surprising that FOX News would publish an anti-pot article? :lol:

    I never did care for smoking it but I never thought about vaporizing it. Hmmm, I use a vaporizer for my essential oils, that could be interesting. Although, I like the idea of making an infused oil and cooking with it - brownies anyone :D
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    riotgrl wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    The thing is, Godfather, smoking isn't the only way to use marijuana. It can be ingested when cooked, made into a butter, or vaporized. Besides, with the higher potency bud, a puff or two is going to be less problematic for the lungs than just plain breathing in a lot of places.

    Oh, and why is it that I find it surprising that FOX News would publish an anti-pot article? :lol:

    I never did care for smoking it but I never thought about vaporizing it. Hmmm, I use a vaporizer for my essential oils, that could be interesting. Although, I like the idea of making an infused oil and cooking with it - brownies anyone :D

    Brownies are the way to go. You get high as fuck
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,388
    riotgrl wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    The thing is, Godfather, smoking isn't the only way to use marijuana. It can be ingested when cooked, made into a butter, or vaporized. Besides, with the higher potency bud, a puff or two is going to be less problematic for the lungs than just plain breathing in a lot of places.

    Oh, and why is it that I find it surprising that FOX News would publish an anti-pot article? :lol:

    I never did care for smoking it but I never thought about vaporizing it. Hmmm, I use a vaporizer for my essential oils, that could be interesting. Although, I like the idea of making an infused oil and cooking with it - brownies anyone :D

    Brownies are the way to go. You get high as fuck

    Be careful, though. I ate a brownie once and after almost an hour-- nothing. So I ate another brownie and two minute later- WHAM! - and then an hour later... I was in b-a-a-a-a-d shape! :lol:
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    :lol:

    No no! Don't have a second one! Give your body time to digest the first one :lol:
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,388
    :lol:

    No no! Don't have a second one! Give your body time to digest the first one :lol:

    R-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght! :lol:
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I just wish I could gauge (gage?) (yes, I'm high :mrgreen: ) how eating it would affect me vs smoking it.

    I've tried a vaporizer too, but it didn't seem to do anything.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Vaporizer is good. Takes a while for me then hits me like a ton of bricks
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    i like smoking it, eating is a good high, full body mellow, but sour stomach. i've tried many forms of digesting it, milk, butter, alcoholic tincature applyed to lolly pops, Nothing like a MJ lollipop while walking around disney world.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    hedonist wrote:
    I just wish I could gauge (gage?) (yes, I'm high :mrgreen: ) how eating it would affect me vs smoking it.

    I've tried a vaporizer too, but it didn't seem to do anything.

    Vaporizing has done nothing for me as well. Eating it is a whole different realm. :mrgreen:
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,388
    Jeanwah wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    I just wish I could gauge (gage?) (yes, I'm high :mrgreen: ) how eating it would affect me vs smoking it.

    I've tried a vaporizer too, but it didn't seem to do anything.

    Vaporizing has done nothing for me as well. Eating it is a whole different realm. :mrgreen:

    Eating it has been the best and worst experiences for me. Too little is a waste, too much a few times made me very ill and just right was very, very nice!
    :mrgreen:
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    brianlux wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    I just wish I could gauge (gage?) (yes, I'm high :mrgreen: ) how eating it would affect me vs smoking it.

    I've tried a vaporizer too, but it didn't seem to do anything.

    Vaporizing has done nothing for me as well. Eating it is a whole different realm. :mrgreen:

    Eating it has been the best and worst experiences for me. Too little is a waste, too much a few times made me very ill and just right was very, very nice!
    :mrgreen:


    Ginger Ale, Mushrooms too
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Mmmm, mushrooms....
  • goingtoveronagoingtoverona Posts: 616
    i'd have to agree with this, I find it very amusing that republicans or conservatives or whatever you want to call them are so anti government and anti regulation except when it comes to the things they don't like. so stay out of my money making business, and stay away from my guns, but oh wait the government needs to stop people from doing drugs and the government needs to stop gay marriage. the government needs to stop all the things I disagree with and stay far far away from the things I do believe in. as far as the god thing goes, if I had to guess I would say the Christian point would be either it was put here by god to test our faith or it was put here by the devil and you are evil if you use it.
    lukin2006 wrote:
    What people put into their own bodies should be their own business ... no one else's. What always amazes is that most of the folks against marijuana use are the christian right wing ... marijuana is grown here on earth and if your a member of one of those cults (religion or political group or both) then you'd say God put it on earth for people to enjoy if he chooses ... so by not allowing people who choose to enjoy the pleasure ... are you then not questioning God, and I thought God was all knowing and powerful, and your questioning him... :nono: :nono: :nono:
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    the government would rather heavily or lightly dole out pills rather than allow people to use marijuana. truly the government wants to kill people... slowly.... or quickly
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    4.7 million of us marijuana enjoyers should storm D.C. all of us chained together
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    chadwick wrote:
    the government would rather heavily or lightly dole out pills rather than allow people to use marijuana. truly the government wants to kill people... slowly.... or quickly

    Big Pharma for ya. It's all about control.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jeanwah wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    the government would rather heavily or lightly dole out pills rather than allow people to use marijuana. truly the government wants to kill people... slowly.... or quickly

    Big Pharma for ya. It's all about control.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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