Converting a DMB fanatic to Pearl Jam

PJ_Soul

mca47 wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

I have seen them live. It didn't help my feelings about their music, but they did put on a pretty entertaining show (far from among the best I've seen, but I had a good time). But the music is #1, and the show is #2, so I'm still not sold.

Welp, I don't know what to tell ya'. Music doesn't hit people's ears the same way.

That is true, and that's a good thing.... I'm just confused about the DMB/PJ comparison. It really doesn't make sense to me. Do people do that ONLY because they think they both put on a good live show?? If so, we could compare so many bands to one another the point would be totally lost.

DewieCox

Skip Benny. I think it's a bit overrated and it's not really representative of PJ live.

Since Noblesville it such an energetic show, I'd say go for something a little more moody or something more balls out where they throw away all the rules for the other. Maybe Boston 3, so you do get the acoustic preset, then a pretty ridiculous show to follow.

mca47

PJ_Soul wrote:

mca47 wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

I have seen them live. It didn't help my feelings about their music, but they did put on a pretty entertaining show (far from among the best I've seen, but I had a good time). But the music is #1, and the show is #2, so I'm still not sold.

Welp, I don't know what to tell ya'. Music doesn't hit people's ears the same way.

That is true, and that's a good thing.... I'm just confused about the DMB/PJ comparison. It really doesn't make sense to me. Do people do that ONLY because they think they both put on a good live show?? If so, we could compare so many bands to one another the point would be totally lost.

Some similarities I've noticed:

Great live bands.
Diehard fans that go to many shows, and in some cases tour with the band.
Similar fans (some annoying assholes, and some really cool people). The DMB fanbase has really grown up- they used to annoy the shit out of me.
Similar fan clubs.
The bands run themselves and are managed in similar ways.
Both bands represent themselves similarly and are made up of good guys.
Both bands have great musicians. While I like PJ's music a lot better, DMB has better musicians IMO.

So yeah, their music can't really be compared as they have their own sounds/influences...

PJ_Soul

Oh, right, back to the topic at hand. I think Benny is a good one (and not overrated ). I also think the Vic Theatre, 2006 is a really good. And Santa Barbara 2003. And Philly 3 or Philly 4. And I think the Missoula 2012 boot is great (of course, I was there, so might be biased, but it does sound good!).

mca47

New York #2 2010 was a good show. It does have some weird "rarities" that PJ fans like, but probably nobody else.

LloydXmas

Boston 2003 series might be good. A great concept and all songs from that tour. Just leave out the Sleater Kenny stuff

mca47

LloydXmas wrote:

Just leave out the Sleater Kenny stuff

Yeah, no shit!
God, they are awful. I stepped on my cat's tail once and it sounded better than Sleater Kinney!

jamminpearls

Philly 3 2009

PJ_Soul

jamminpearls wrote:

Philly 3 2009

It is a good one.

YLed2

The choice of two boots to give him - I would choose between Gorge 2005, Mansfield 3 2003, and The Vic. I really can't come up with a better selection than any two of those three choices. But it awful difficult to leave out a lot of those epic 2000 and 2003 boots, especially Benny. But as others have said, Benny probably isn't the best representation with what you guys are trying to accomplish - but it does show their diversity and magic of their acoustic work. But all three of the aforementioned boots capture that, just on a smaller scale.

In terms of studio work - stay away from most of the more well known stuff and go at it with some deep work from Yield, No Code, Binaural, and Riot Act and sprinkle in some stuff from the other albums as you see fit.

PJ_Soul

YLed2 wrote:

The choice of two boots to give him - I would choose between Gorge 2005, Mansfield 3 2003, and The Vic. I really can't come up with a better selection than any two of those three choices. But it awful difficult to leave out a lot of those epic 2000 and 2003 boots, especially Benny. But as others have said, Benny probably isn't the best representation with what you guys are trying to accomplish - but it does show their diversity and magic of their acoustic work. But all three of the aforementioned boots capture that, just on a smaller scale.

In terms of studio work - stay away from most of the more well known stuff and go at it with some deep work from Yield, No Code, Binaural, and Riot Act and sprinkle in some stuff from the other albums as you see fit.

The Vic is definately a great boot.