$6.3 Trillion for legalization

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
The comprehensive immigration overhaul being taken up in the Senate this week could cost taxpayers $6.3 trillion if 11 million illegal immigrants are granted legal status, according to a long-awaited estimate by the conservative Heritage Foundation.

The cost would arise from illegal immigrants tapping into the government's vast network of benefits and services, many of which are currently unavailable to them. This includes everything from standard benefits like Social Security and Medicare to dozens of welfare programs ranging from housing assistance to food stamps.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05 ... z2SWqPSqD6

why not.....we'll just pull the money out of our ass's like we do for everything else,right Mr. President ? :lol:

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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Maybe if the government legalize's something else we can offset it. :mrgreen:
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,691
    So this is the plan that tea party Golden Boy Marco Rubio is pushing? Why thats communism!!!! :fp:
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,605
    Yeah and how much money will all those immigrants generate once they are legal and can pay into our system , or how much would it cost to shipp all of'em back to where they came from unless you still believe what your boy Romney believed that they all would just self deport :fp:
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Yeah and how much money will all those immigrants generate once they are legal and can pay into our system , or how much would it cost to shipp all of'em back to where they came from unless you still believe what your boy Romney believed that they all would just self deport :fp:


    from the article

    The $6.3 trillion figure is based on what illegal immigrants would cost the government over the course of their lifetime. It factors in the expected $3.1 trillion in taxes they'd pay to the government.



    I think heritage foundation estimates tend to be on the high side. Hard to say exactly what would happen but numbers like this are simply used to prove a point, one that really doesn't need proving as they are already a cost to the system that is hard to quantify and the benefits that giving them legal citizenship might bring could be vastly beneficial to the country over time. I mean, can you really put a price on a more secure boarder with better access to the United States for all who want to come here and be productive member of society?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Yeah and how much money will all those immigrants generate once they are legal and can pay into our system , or how much would it cost to shipp all of'em back to where they came from unless you still believe what your boy Romney believed that they all would just self deport :fp:

    it's bullshit in my opinion,they break the law to enter our country then this half wit of a president wants to give them all legal status with all the benifits I have contrubited to all my working life...it friggin pisses me off big time.

    Godfather.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,605
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yeah and how much money will all those immigrants generate once they are legal and can pay into our system , or how much would it cost to shipp all of'em back to where they came from unless you still believe what your boy Romney believed that they all would just self deport :fp:

    it's bullshit in my opinion,they break the law to enter our country then this half wit of a president wants to give them all legal status with all the benifits I have contrubited to all my working life...it friggin pisses me off big time.

    Godfather.

    I hear you but to do nothing and just stay the course doesn't make any sense i say either let's get something done or try to deport them wich could never get done ...
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Maybe if the government legalize's something else we can offset it. :mrgreen:
    Ha, I honestly thought that's what this thread was about. I clicked on it just to chime in w/ "there's no way legalization of pot would generate that much economic value..." :lol:
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    MotoDC wrote:
    Maybe if the government legalize's something else we can offset it. :mrgreen:
    Ha, I honestly thought that's what this thread was about. I clicked on it just to chime in w/ "there's no way legalization of pot would generate that much economic value..." :lol:

    Maybe they'll come up with a new green card that obligates the holder to purchase some newly legalized green thereby offsetting the $6.3 trillion. Just thinking outside the box. :P
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    brianlux wrote:
    Just thinking outside the box. :P


    You can thank :mrgreen: for that
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    Fox News article on a study by the Heritage Foundation..

    :lol::lol::lol:

    pass
  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    Haha even conservatives are pointing out how sucky this research is
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rig ... ion-study/
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    We need to enforce the laws we have.
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    aerial wrote:
    We need to enforce the laws we have.
    ...
    Question: How much is that going to cost?
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    Watching TV Sunday night I saw some illegal immigrants from the North scale a 700 foot wall of ice! Now not all of them made it but how can you stop people with such determination? ;)
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    JimmyV wrote:
    Watching TV Sunday night I saw some illegal immigrants from the North scale a 700 foot wall of ice! Now not all of them made it but how can you stop people with such determination? ;)
    Winter is coming.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    MotoDC wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Watching TV Sunday night I saw some illegal immigrants from the North scale a 700 foot wall of ice! Now not all of them made it but how can you stop people with such determination? ;)
    Winter is coming.

    :D
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    MotoDC wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Watching TV Sunday night I saw some illegal immigrants from the North scale a 700 foot wall of ice! Now not all of them made it but how can you stop people with such determination? ;)
    Winter is coming.
    Need to send ravens to D.C. beggin for more brothers so the patrols can be stepped up.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    hmmm.....

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... ith-racial

    Heritage: We Have Nothing To Do With Racial Immigration Study

    BENJY SARLIN 2:03 PM EDT, WEDNESDAY MAY 8, 2013
    The Heritage Foundation is disavowing past recommendations regarding race, IQ, and immigration from Jason Richwine, the co-author of a recent study by the group claming undocumented immigrants would add $6.3 trillion to the deficit if granted legal status.

    “This is not a work product of The Heritage Foundation. Its findings in no way reflect the positions of The Heritage Foundation," Mike Gonzales, vice president of communications at Heritage, said in a statement. "Nor do the findings affect the conclusions of our study on the cost of amnesty to the U.S. taxpayer.”

    Richwine argued in a 2009 paper that immigrants should be barred based on low IQ, which he claimed would have the effect of keeping out many Hispanics in particular, who may have a "genetic" predilection towards lower intelligence.

    “No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites, but the prediction that new Hispanic immigrants will have low-IQ children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against," Richwine wrote.

    He added that it may be advisable to couch these findings in less racially inflammatory terms for political purposes by referring to "skill-based" immigration.

    Richwine's Heritage report claimed immigration reform would balloon the deficit primarily because undocumented immigrants would be unable to improve their education and income levels over several generations.
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