Alice in Chains tour -

BamaPJFan

I saw Alice in Chains last week in Birmingham. Jerry and the guys sounded good. The show crowd was really spirited and energetic and the setlist even featured Heaven Beside You, which I've posted a link to below, along with Nutshell which was really touching when Jerry introduced the band and dedicated the song to Mike and Layne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WnSd2Wa3_Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3J7TREIEo

RedMosquito22

In my opinion it's insulting to call this band Alice In Chains.

BamaPJFan

RedMosquito22 wrote:

In my opinion it's insulting to call this band Alice In Chains.

I don't share your opinion.

Digital Twilight

BamaPJFan wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

In my opinion it's insulting to call this band Alice In Chains.

I don't share your opinion.

Me either. I thought Jerry has handled the transition very well neither forgetting about Layne nor dwelling on the past. Jerry was always the heart of AiC and Black Gives Way to Blue was a good album. No one will ever replace Layne but then again no one tried to.

Looking forward to the new album and (hopefully) some UK shows

joe2317

I'm going to see them in Oklahoma in about two weeks. I'm pretty excited. My expectations just went up.

DewieCox

Digital Twilight wrote:

BamaPJFan wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

In my opinion it's insulting to call this band Alice In Chains.

I don't share your opinion.

Me either. I thought Jerry has handled the transition very well neither forgetting about Layne nor dwelling on the past. Jerry was always the heart of AiC and Black Gives Way to Blue was a good album. No one will ever replace Layne but then again no one tried to.

Looking forward to the new album and (hopefully) some UK shows

Same here. Cantrell's band, to me. Of course Staley has such a unique vocal presence it can't be duplicated, but after hearing alot of the stuff sans Staley I realized that Cantrell is really a much bigger part of the classic AiC vocal sound than I ever realized.

The material from the new lineup isn't up to snuff with the very best stuff from the Staley lineup, but it compares pretty well with most of their work.

RedMosquito22

Never said the band isn't good but they aren't Alice in chains just like pearl jam doesn't exist without Ed.

DewieCox

RedMosquito22 wrote:

Never said the band isn't good but they aren't Alice in chains just like pearl jam doesn't exist without Ed.

If there was a singer that carried as much, if not more, weight in PJ, while writing every bit of the music and alot of the lyrics there would be a PJ without Ed.

RedMosquito22

DewieCox wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

Never said the band isn't good but they aren't Alice in chains just like pearl jam doesn't exist without Ed.

If there was a singer that carried as much, if not more, weight in PJ, while writing every bit of the music and alot of the lyrics there would be a PJ without Ed.

hahahahahahaha. And I'll find a billion dollars under a rock someday.

If your band is that good, you can move on and not have to hang onto the name AIC to carry it. Much like Foo Fighters did.

RhinoJam

Just saw them at Carolina Rebellion in NC, they were definitely the highlight of the weekend, very good energy, they sounded great... only weak spot was the hour long set... Soundgarden was supposed to play the following day, but the rain or shine show got rained out...? wtf...

DewieCox

RedMosquito22 wrote:

hahahahahahaha. And I'll find a billion dollars under a rock someday.

If your band is that good, you can move on and not have to hang onto the name AIC to carry it. Much like Foo Fighters did.

Wasn't trying to imply that was the case with PJ.

The Foo Fighters isn't really a good comparison. Grohl played drums, and wasn't the clear creative force, in a much different sounding band and there was really no possible way he could've moved forward under the Nirvana moniker. Grohl's had no problems moving forward as the Foo Fighters despite replacing every member, basically whenever he feels like it.

AIC is closer to the Smashing Pumpkins or ACDC where you have a clear artistic driving force.

I think Cantrell just got sick of his solo stuff being dismissed b/c it wasn't AIC and with the success of the recent AIC albums I think his hunch was right on.

BamaPJFan

RhinoJam wrote:

Just saw them at Carolina Rebellion in NC, they were definitely the highlight of the weekend, very good energy, they sounded great... only weak spot was the hour long set... Soundgarden was supposed to play the following day, but the rain or shine show got rained out...? wtf...

Whoa!!! Soundgarden's set was canceled at Carolina Rebellion? I almost drove up to Charlotte yesterday to see Soundgarden. Now, I'm glad that I didn't. What a mess.

kramer73

DewieCox wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

hahahahahahaha. And I'll find a billion dollars under a rock someday.

If your band is that good, you can move on and not have to hang onto the name AIC to carry it. Much like Foo Fighters did.

Wasn't trying to imply that was the case with PJ.

The Foo Fighters isn't really a good comparison. Grohl played drums, and wasn't the clear creative force, in a much different sounding band and there was really no possible way he could've moved forward under the Nirvana moniker. Grohl's had no problems moving forward as the Foo Fighters despite replacing every member, basically whenever he feels like it.

AIC is closer to the Smashing Pumpkins or ACDC where you have a clear artistic driving force.

I think Cantrell just got sick of his solo stuff being dismissed b/c it wasn't AIC and with the success of the recent AIC albums I think his hunch was right on.

Nate Mendel has been with Foo Fighters since the beginning, but I understand what you are saying.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

RedMosquito22 wrote:

hahahahahahaha. And I'll find a billion dollars under a rock someday.

If your band is that good, you can move on and not have to hang onto the name AIC to carry it. Much like Foo Fighters did.

still with this shit? a name is nothing more than a tool to promote yourself. if people don't like the material, they won't go to the show. if someone is that dumb to go to a show just because it has the name AIC on it, then they deserve to be tossing their $70 down the toilet. Radio stations aren't interested in the Jerry Cantrell Band. They want a recognizable name. And if you want people to hear your music, which is what ever artist wants, then you have to be able to promote your record. The best way to promote your record is with a brand name people know and trust.

On AIC's Tripod, Jerry sang multiple leads, and on Unplugged he sang lead on their newest track Killer Is Me. This band was Jerry's band before Layne killed himself. He wrote 90% of the music, 75% of the lyrics, and was responsible for at least 50% of the best vocal harmony in modern rock music. Degredation Trip was a fucking masterpiece. Had that been billed as an AIC record it would have been their The Wall.

You can't even compare Foo and Nirvana to Jerry and AIC. Dave contributed nearly nothing writing-wise to Nirvana, and he's 100% of Foo. And musically Nirvana and Foo are worlds apart.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

got my floor tickets for Winnipeg. Can't wait! but who the fuck is monster truck??

Edved82

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

hahahahahahaha. And I'll find a billion dollars under a rock someday.

If your band is that good, you can move on and not have to hang onto the name AIC to carry it. Much like Foo Fighters did.

still with this shit? a name is nothing more than a tool to promote yourself. if people don't like the material, they won't go to the show. if someone is that dumb to go to a show just because it has the name AIC on it, then they deserve to be tossing their $70 down the toilet. Radio stations aren't interested in the Jerry Cantrell Band. They want a recognizable name. And if you want people to hear your music, which is what ever artist wants, then you have to be able to promote your record. The best way to promote your record is with a brand name people know and trust.

On AIC's Tripod, Jerry sang multiple leads, and on Unplugged he sang lead on their newest track Killer Is Me. This band was Jerry's band before Layne killed himself. He wrote 90% of the music, 75% of the lyrics, and was responsible for at least 50% of the best vocal harmony in modern rock music. Degredation Trip was a fucking masterpiece. Had that been billed as an AIC record it would have been their The Wall.

You can't even compare Foo and Nirvana to Jerry and AIC. Dave contributed nearly nothing writing-wise to Nirvana, and he's 100% of Foo. And musically Nirvana and Foo are worlds apart.

Exactly. I cant believe people are still beating this "Its not AIC without Layne" drum. Layne Staley is probably my favourite rock singer of all time, but its Cantrell's band - he can do what he likes with it, and the stuff they've done with Duvall is great. I think they've handled the changeover very well. Comparing it to the Nirvana situation is stupid.

uninnocent-

I'm seeing them twice this summer (London and Toronto). I don't care if I hear the same set twice -- I'm seeing AIC again!!!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

hahahahahahaha. And I'll find a billion dollars under a rock someday.

If your band is that good, you can move on and not have to hang onto the name AIC to carry it. Much like Foo Fighters did.

still with this shit? a name is nothing more than a tool to promote yourself. if people don't like the material, they won't go to the show. if someone is that dumb to go to a show just because it has the name AIC on it, then they deserve to be tossing their $70 down the toilet. Radio stations aren't interested in the Jerry Cantrell Band. They want a recognizable name. And if you want people to hear your music, which is what ever artist wants, then you have to be able to promote your record. The best way to promote your record is with a brand name people know and trust.

On AIC's Tripod, Jerry sang multiple leads, and on Unplugged he sang lead on their newest track Killer Is Me. This band was Jerry's band before Layne killed himself. He wrote 90% of the music, 75% of the lyrics, and was responsible for at least 50% of the best vocal harmony in modern rock music. Degredation Trip was a fucking masterpiece. Had that been billed as an AIC record it would have been their The Wall.

You can't even compare Foo and Nirvana to Jerry and AIC. Dave contributed nearly nothing writing-wise to Nirvana, and he's 100% of Foo. And musically Nirvana and Foo are worlds apart.

Bingo.

Further... it's not as if the band booted Layne to the curb. They dealt with a tragic loss and, as has been stated here and in several other posts... the band is still awesome. Their trip to Vancouver this year is as part of Foxfest. Not sure if I'm into that? I want to see them again though.

kramer73

back on topic...any tour posters?

red mos

I enjoyed black gives way to blue. It's a good album. I think of it as a transitional record. I Love how the band pays tribute to Mike Starr, and Layne Stayley, so they are not left behind. I am Looking forward to the new album on May 28th. I am also going to see AIC with Jane's Addiction and Coheed and Cambria so I am looking forward to that. In video footage I have seen over the years, Will does a good job of singing Layne's parts. He isn't Layne, and doesn't try to be. He does a great job on filling the double harmonies dual vocals that signified AIC's sound. I am looking forward to seeing them. Also, they have sold out the majority of their shows since reuniting, so the fans still want to hear the old, and newer material. All my friends that have seen the band since reuniting have said great things. Keep in mind, AC/DC reunited too after Bon Scott passed away, and they have been going strong since as well.

Loulou

When I saw them at Soundwave going back a few years, there were stupid twits in the audience shouting shit about them not being AIC but I tell you what, after they saw that they played a great show and they sounded awesome they shut the fuck up. Layne will be missed but why should the rest of the band, especially Jerry be forced to stop their band??

Loulou

red mos wrote:

In video footage I have seen over the years, Will does a good job of singing Layne's parts. He isn't Layne, and doesn't try to be.

This is really true, that's what I appreciated about him too.

themessenger

AIC is headlining a festival here in Dallas called Uproar Festival on 8/28. Jane's Addiction, Coheed, Walking Papers, and a few others are going to be there. They had tickets for sale for $15 last weekend too, so I definitely can't wait to check them out.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Just saw these guys last night in Penticton.

A great evening I enjoyed immensely. Awesome to be able to see bands like these.