brianlux
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With all due respect to those who cite smoking marijuana as being unhealthy I have to say, so? The stuff that's out there is potent and there is no need to smoke a whole bag of it like in the old days. And if it makes someone feel better, the slight drawbacks are worth dealing with. Besides, it often makes people laugh and laughter is very good for one's health!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The only bad thing about marijuana is the gaining weight part. Damn, the munchies!!
How to become a millionaire: Become a botanist and genetics expert and create a munchy-free marijuana hybrid and come up with a fancy name like "Slim Jims" or "Slim Janes". The ad would read: "Smoke Slim Janes for a thinner, funnier, happier and healthier you!"
For those who need the weight gain create a double-munchy hybrid called "Put on the Blitz" "Having a hard time eating? Try our new 'Put on the Blitz' and munch away to your hearts content!"
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The only bad thing about marijuana is the gaining weight part. Damn, the munchies!!
How to become a millionaire: Become a botanist and genetics expert and create a munchy-free marijuana hybrid and come up with a fancy name like "Slim Jims" or "Slim Janes". The ad would read: "Smoke Slim Janes for a thinner, funnier, happier and healthier you!"
For those who need the weight gain create a double-munchy hybrid called "Put on the Blitz" "Having a hard time eating? Try our new 'Put on the Blitz' and munch away to your hearts content!"
And there would be a hybrid that just puts one to sleep called "Mo' Doze" "Insomniac? Nerves keeping you awake? This potion will have you drooling on your pillow in no time."
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And there would be a hybrid that just puts one to sleep called "Mo' Doze" "Insomniac? Nerves keeping you awake? This potion will have you drooling on your pillow in no time."
I love it!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I would love to see a movement away from all unhealthy living and
a new generation that takes personal responsibility to heart.
I think this can be done but it's going to take a few generations...
maybe more.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE MY WEED!!!
Me too BJ, me too... but it's not good for us but it's also too late for us
Not for the kids though, future generations might have a chance at less disease.
If pot sticks around like cigs and alcohol abuse has we will see just how unhealthy it is.
I'm still wondering if that's what the rise in pancreatic cancer is all about.
I read some articles about pot studies, researching awhile back,
they are all relatively new and few.
There are some drawbacks, but i like the exchange rate.
You aren't harming anyone in the process of using the herb, so I don't really see a problem with it. Most of the time I'm sitting in my house and being quiet. Some people are able to tap into their creative side with marijuana... and I'm not going to lie, it makes things pretty fun.
I'll go further in saying that I'm for the legalization of all drugs. It's an education thing, not something that should be seen as a criminal activity.
People that abuse pills need help just as much as someone doing heroin.
That's all beside the point, anyway... there is money to be made in the industry if the herb becomes legalized, as it should be... government can definitely tap into that and use it to its advantage.
You aren't harming anyone in the process of using the herb, so I don't really see a problem with it. Most of the time I'm sitting in my house and being quiet. Some people are able to tap into their creative side with marijuana... and I'm not going to lie, it makes things pretty fun.
I'll go further in saying that I'm for the legalization of all drugs. It's an education thing, not something that should be seen as a criminal activity.
People that abuse pills need help just as much as someone doing heroin.
That's all beside the point, anyway... there is money to be made in the industry if the herb becomes legalized, as it should be... government can definitely tap into that and use it to its advantage.
I have been telling my BF when it does we have to get in the business. I have enough stock to sell to start a growing farm. I have a BIG green thumb, he is a Connoisseur and a numbers guy. How could we go wrong?
oh aerial....I can think of a few ways to screw it up. Here's one:
Ingesting smoke into your lungs is not healthy. Is there really an argument about this?
It doesn't matter. Legalize it. Across the board.
I'm glad you recognize that the health effects are a straw man to the prohibition debate.
But to the bolded above...you might find these articles interesting:
Media Ignored Expert's Shocking Findings That Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material UCLA professor Donald Tashkin will share his research discoveries to medical students this week. http://www.alternet.org/drugs/media-ign ... med-school
And here are a few articles about a 20 year study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association:
News Every Pothead Must Know http://news.menshealth.com/news-every-p ... 012/01/10/
Putting together 20 years of data—and using the magic of statistics to separate the effects of pot from those of tobacco, since people often smoke both—the researchers found that pot smokers seemed to have better lung function than people who didn’t smoke at all.
Study: Smoking Marijuana Not Linked with Lung Damage http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/10/s ... z2S0oxoeEg
While tobacco smokers showed the expected drop in lung function over time, the new research found that marijuana smoke had unexpected and apparently positive effects. Low to moderate users actually showed increased lung capacity compared to nonsmokers on two tests, known as FEV1 and FVC. FEV1 is the amount of air someone breathes out in the first second after taking the deepest possible breath; FVC is the total volume of air exhaled after the deepest inhalation.
“FEV1 and FVC both actually increased with moderate and occasional use of marijuana,” says Dr. Mark Pletcher, associate professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco and the lead author of the study.
That was a bit of a surprise, says Pletcher, since “There are clearly adverse effects from tobacco use and marijuana smoke has a lot of the same constituents as tobacco smoke does so we thought it might have some of the same harmful effects. It’s a weird effect to see and we couldn’t make it go away,” he adds, explaining that the researchers used statistical models to look for errors or other factors that could explain the apparent benefit and did not find them.
yes a bit but health as you know has never been a top priority for me ...
I'm thinking of future generations. I would think we would want the best for our kids
a chance at less diseases and dependency. Why on Earth would we want more?
ah, do as I say, not as I do....always an effective approach with the youngsters!
Me too BJ, me too... but it's not good for us but it's also too late for us
Not for the kids though, future generations might have a chance at less disease.
If pot sticks around like cigs and alcohol abuse has we will see just how unhealthy it is.
I'm still wondering if that's what the rise in pancreatic cancer is all about.
I read some articles about pot studies, researching awhile back,
they are all relatively new and few.
If pot sticks around? Pots been around for a few years....and I don't think it's going anywhere. :?
There have probably been more studies done on pot than every other 'street drug' combined....and probably 10000x more studies than most of the 'script drugs rushed thru clinicals/FDA approvals and into stores. If you want to call them 'new and few', I'd like to see a comparison to ANY other drug. Pot has been studied to death.
Here are links to a few (note:sarcasm, read: a fuck-load of) studies on marijuana and it's derivatives:
What I would love to grow is the old school pot. I haven't smoke in forever because the stuff out there now is way to potent.
haha... it can be.
But people have gotten so good at growing it that they can make it more and less potent.... body high, head high, stuff that makes you really hungry, or put you right to sleep. It's actually pretty incredible.
If cannabis causes the munchies, how is it possible that pot smokers are thinner than nonsmokers?
A new study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology finds an intriguing connection between marijuana use and body weight, showing that rates of obesity are lower by roughly a third in people who smoke pot at least three times a week, compared with those who don’t use marijuana at all.
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What are we doing wrong?....maybe the message pit is the common thread here?
I do believe there are various strains for what you want/need as well as for what ails ya
The stuff we currently have seems to be a food-trigger, dammit.
Last night had me fixated on Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives while indulging in a few (small!) bites of white chocolate with hazelnuts.
Also, agreed on laughter! Almost a panacea.
I think you're dead on about the strains...and the laughter I have been hanging with a friend who has decided to give it a shot for the first time since HS....it's been so hilarious to watch someone go thru all the newbie, familiarization stages of partaking...and very cool to see them embrace the positives and realize how exaggerated the negatives are.
What I would love to grow is the old school pot. I haven't smoke in forever because the stuff out there now is way to potent.
haha... it can be.
But people have gotten so good at growing it that they can make it more and less potent.... body high, head high, stuff that makes you really hungry, or put you right to sleep. It's actually pretty incredible.
I think that's more about the strain they're growing than making it less potent....potency is a good thing!
I think a lot of people who make the 'pot is too potent nowadays' claim are just smoking more than they should...I think it takes probably 5-10 minutes for the full affect to hit you....and that's also about how long it takes to smoke a whole joint inexperienced people should just take a hit, then wait 5-10 and try another till they feel good. Just goin to town and hopin for the best, especially when drinking (which is when most inexperienced users end up takin a few hits), is a recipe for gravity and spins and goin green!
But then I'm sure you know all of this
What I would love to grow is the old school pot. I haven't smoke in forever because the stuff out there now is way to potent.
haha... it can be.
But people have gotten so good at growing it that they can make it more and less potent.... body high, head high, stuff that makes you really hungry, or put you right to sleep. It's actually pretty incredible.
I think that's more about the strain they're growing than making it less potent....potency is a good thing!
I think a lot of people who make the 'pot is too potent nowadays' claim are just smoking more than they should...I think it takes probably 5-10 minutes for the full affect to hit you....and that's also about how long it takes to smoke a whole joint inexperienced people should just take a hit, then wait 5-10 and try another till they feel good. Just goin to town and hopin for the best, especially when drinking (which is when most inexperienced users end up takin a few hits), is a recipe for gravity and spins and gowin green!
But then I'm sure you know all of this
Oh okay makes sense. The difference is just incredible
I think that's more about the strain they're growing than making it less potent....potency is a good thing!
I think a lot of people who make the 'pot is too potent nowadays' claim are just smoking more than they should...I think it takes probably 5-10 minutes for the full affect to hit you....and that's also about how long it takes to smoke a whole joint inexperienced people should just take a hit, then wait 5-10 and try another till they feel good. Just goin to town and hopin for the best, especially when drinking (which is when most inexperienced users end up takin a few hits), is a recipe for gravity and spins and gowin green!
But then I'm sure you know all of this
Oh okay makes sense. The difference is just incredible
I've seen that many times but I just watched the whole thing again...and a few more clips. Been watching Oh My God nonstop... funniest guy on the planet by a longshot right now.
I have been telling my BF when it does we have to get in the business. I have enough stock to sell to start a growing farm. I have a BIG green thumb, he is a Connoisseur and a numbers guy. How could we go wrong?
oh aerial....I can think of a few ways to screw it up. Here's one:
What I would love to grow is the old school pot. I haven't smoke in forever because the stuff out there now is way to potent.
your business plan is to grow bad pot? why not just smoke less?
That would be for me personally......I don't like the "one hit wonder".....I actually like the smoking experience,and the taste , like a cigar ....slow smoker.....I was the only one that was never exited when "good shit" was scored. I would be like, "got any regs ?"
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) say marijuana legalization is a common sense fiscal policy that could save the government billions of dollars through a combination of tax revenues and savings from not pursuing costly enforcement and incarceration.
I really don't care what other people do, and I can see the point about money saved due to law enforcement. But I really wonder if there would be any actual tax revenue. I mean do people think that the dealer on the corner is going to start carrying a cash register with him and issuing receipts and charging sales tax? Or that the guy with the grow house is going to start keeping detailed records of his revenue and expenses so he can claim the money he makes on his income tax and make deductions for equipment he has to buy?
I've seen that many times but I just watched the whole thing again...and a few more clips. Been watching Oh My God nonstop... funniest guy on the planet by a longshot right now.
Oh man, I just love Louis. Caught an episode of Inside Comedy with him (good show, btw). Nothing like the combo of intelligent and funny - it's an aphrodesiac, I tell ya.
As to potency, YES! The stuff our guy gets us is consistently strong and worth every dollar.
No wonder Jojo left his home in Tucson, Arizona for some California grass
I would love to see a movement away from all unhealthy living and
a new generation that takes personal responsibility to heart.
I think this can be done but it's going to take a few generations...
maybe more.
Unhealthy how? I'm seeing more and more research about the benefits of pot. A "movement away from all unhealthy living" sounds like "people" telling other people what they can and can't do.
yes a bit but health as you know has never been a top priority for me ...
I'm thinking of future generations. I would think we would want the best for our kids
a chance at less diseases and dependency. Why on Earth would we want more?
ah, do as I say, not as I do....always an effective approach with the youngsters!
Me too BJ, me too... but it's not good for us but it's also too late for us
Not for the kids though, future generations might have a chance at less disease.
If pot sticks around like cigs and alcohol abuse has we will see just how unhealthy it is.
I'm still wondering if that's what the rise in pancreatic cancer is all about.
I read some articles about pot studies, researching awhile back,
they are all relatively new and few.
If pot sticks around? Pots been around for a few years....and I don't think it's going anywhere. :?
There have probably been more studies done on pot than every other 'street drug' combined....and probably 10000x more studies than most of the 'script drugs rushed thru clinicals/FDA approvals and into stores. If you want to call them 'new and few', I'd like to see a comparison to ANY other drug. Pot has been studied to death.
Here are links to a few (note:sarcasm, read: a fuck-load of) studies on marijuana and it's derivatives:
totally agree as far other drugs and big pharm drugs... none of which will I take,
but still not many studies and in the big scheme of things very recent.
And yes of course example is the point I am making. I have set my examples for my children
but it's not too late for you and young parents or the parents yet to be.
Who would ever want their kids to be drug addicts or pot smokers if they had the choice?
Oh and they do. Parents make the child or they break the child... their choice.
I would love to see a movement away from all unhealthy living and
a new generation that takes personal responsibility to heart.
I think this can be done but it's going to take a few generations...
maybe more.
Unhealthy how? I'm seeing more and more research about the benefits of pot. A "movement away from all unhealthy living" sounds like "people" telling other people what they can and can't do.
What if the United States could shrink the federal deficit and get high at the same time? Two congressmen calling for the legalization of recreational marijuana say it's not such a trippy idea.
Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) say marijuana legalization is a common sense fiscal policy that could save the government billions of dollars through a combination of tax revenues and savings from not pursuing costly enforcement and incarceration.
“We are trying to rationalize federal drug policy,” Blumenauer tells Top Line. “We're spending too much money on enforcement for something most Americans think should be legal, and we're losing revenue. And we're going to create federal train wreck if we don't fix it.”
They say the federal government is behind the curve of states like Washington and Colorado, where recreational marijuana is regulated and taxed.
"Colorado and Washington voters agree, as do I, that the proper policy with regard to marijuana is to regulate it rather than ban it," says Polis.
Polis makes the case that marijuana should be treated no differently from "other unhealthy substances" like tobacco and alcohol. But that’s not such an easy sell in the halls of Congress, where Blumenauer and Polis face an uphill battle in getting legislation passed.
What do I think about this?
Well, I think that it would certainly bring in revenue and it would cut law enforcement costs. That's on the plus side of the argument.
On the negative side, I think that if it became legal to smoke marijauna there might possibly be a rise in people smoking it and in the long run, it might create a whole group of people who lose their drive. I know that sounds like I'm being too cautious but, I do think it's a real concern.
People who smoke a lot don't DO much. :? That's a problem!!!!! :wtf:
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brianlux
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Well, I think that it would certainly bring in revenue and it would cut law enforcement costs. That's on the plus side of the argument.
On the negative side, I think that if it became legal to smoke marijauna there might possibly be a rise in people smoking it and in the long run, it might create a whole group of people who lose their drive. I know that sounds like I'm being too cautious but, I do think it's a real concern.
People who smoke a lot don't DO much. :? That's a problem!!!!! :wtf:
I've often thought about the less drive thing. I know pot smokers who would probably benefit from being a little more driven but I also believe that there are many people for whom I would like to see less drive. Developers for instance. Their mind set is, "Let's build another shopping mall- not because we need one but because its what we do- build build build." Holy smoke- give these people some good smoke. Maybe they'll stop paving the world over.
In the long run, I think people find their pace whatever it may be. One thing for sure, if pot and alcohol traded places in terms of popularity and usage we would have a less violent world with fewer conflicts and less fighting- not to mention a reduction in alcohol related illness.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Well, I think that it would certainly bring in revenue and it would cut law enforcement costs. That's on the plus side of the argument.
On the negative side, I think that if it became legal to smoke marijauna there might possibly be a rise in people smoking it and in the long run, it might create a whole group of people who lose their drive. I know that sounds like I'm being too cautious but, I do think it's a real concern.
People who smoke a lot don't DO much. :? That's a problem!!!!! :wtf:
I smoke a lot and live a pretty nice, very satisfying and fairly productive life :P
And actually, when I come home and want to decompress, there's not one thing wrong with doing so with a bowl of the sticky.
People that want to smoke weed already do; the legalization of it wouldn't, I believe, encourage others to follow the leader.
It's crazy to me that shit like oxycontin, vicoden, xanax, etc.......are freely prescribed and gobbled up, yet something natural with so many benefits (recreational side included) is viewed as it is.
*edit to Brian - I used to work for a developer who got high (I even supplied him) - trust me, it makes no difference
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42 reasons to legalize marijuana
How to become a millionaire: Become a botanist and genetics expert and create a munchy-free marijuana hybrid and come up with a fancy name like "Slim Jims" or "Slim Janes". The ad would read: "Smoke Slim Janes for a thinner, funnier, happier and healthier you!"
For those who need the weight gain create a double-munchy hybrid called "Put on the Blitz" "Having a hard time eating? Try our new 'Put on the Blitz' and munch away to your hearts content!"
And there would be a hybrid that just puts one to sleep called "Mo' Doze" "Insomniac? Nerves keeping you awake? This potion will have you drooling on your pillow in no time."
The stuff we currently have seems to be a food-trigger, dammit.
Last night had me fixated on Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives while indulging in a few (small!) bites of white chocolate with hazelnuts.
Also, agreed on laughter! Almost a panacea.
There are some drawbacks, but i like the exchange rate.
You aren't harming anyone in the process of using the herb, so I don't really see a problem with it. Most of the time I'm sitting in my house and being quiet. Some people are able to tap into their creative side with marijuana... and I'm not going to lie, it makes things pretty fun.
I'll go further in saying that I'm for the legalization of all drugs. It's an education thing, not something that should be seen as a criminal activity.
People that abuse pills need help just as much as someone doing heroin.
That's all beside the point, anyway... there is money to be made in the industry if the herb becomes legalized, as it should be... government can definitely tap into that and use it to its advantage.
Freedom of choice, folks.
I'm glad you recognize that the health effects are a straw man to the prohibition debate.
But to the bolded above...you might find these articles interesting:
Media Ignored Expert's Shocking Findings That Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material
UCLA professor Donald Tashkin will share his research discoveries to medical students this week.
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/media-ign ... med-school
And here are a few articles about a 20 year study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association:
News Every Pothead Must Know
http://news.menshealth.com/news-every-p ... 012/01/10/
Putting together 20 years of data—and using the magic of statistics to separate the effects of pot from those of tobacco, since people often smoke both—the researchers found that pot smokers seemed to have better lung function than people who didn’t smoke at all.
Study: Smoking Marijuana Not Linked with Lung Damage
http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/10/s ... z2S0oxoeEg
While tobacco smokers showed the expected drop in lung function over time, the new research found that marijuana smoke had unexpected and apparently positive effects. Low to moderate users actually showed increased lung capacity compared to nonsmokers on two tests, known as FEV1 and FVC. FEV1 is the amount of air someone breathes out in the first second after taking the deepest possible breath; FVC is the total volume of air exhaled after the deepest inhalation.
“FEV1 and FVC both actually increased with moderate and occasional use of marijuana,” says Dr. Mark Pletcher, associate professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco and the lead author of the study.
That was a bit of a surprise, says Pletcher, since “There are clearly adverse effects from tobacco use and marijuana smoke has a lot of the same constituents as tobacco smoke does so we thought it might have some of the same harmful effects. It’s a weird effect to see and we couldn’t make it go away,” he adds, explaining that the researchers used statistical models to look for errors or other factors that could explain the apparent benefit and did not find them.
There have probably been more studies done on pot than every other 'street drug' combined....and probably 10000x more studies than most of the 'script drugs rushed thru clinicals/FDA approvals and into stores. If you want to call them 'new and few', I'd like to see a comparison to ANY other drug. Pot has been studied to death.
Here are links to a few (note:sarcasm, read: a fuck-load of) studies on marijuana and it's derivatives:
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/study.php
(keep an eye on the column to the right
haha... it can be.
But people have gotten so good at growing it that they can make it more and less potent.... body high, head high, stuff that makes you really hungry, or put you right to sleep. It's actually pretty incredible.
http://healthland.time.com/2011/09/08/m ... dy-weight/
Marijuana Slims? Why Pot Smokers Are Less Obese
If cannabis causes the munchies, how is it possible that pot smokers are thinner than nonsmokers?
A new study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology finds an intriguing connection between marijuana use and body weight, showing that rates of obesity are lower by roughly a third in people who smoke pot at least three times a week, compared with those who don’t use marijuana at all.
..............
What are we doing wrong?....maybe the message pit is the common thread here?
I think you're dead on about the strains...and the laughter
I think a lot of people who make the 'pot is too potent nowadays' claim are just smoking more than they should...I think it takes probably 5-10 minutes for the full affect to hit you....and that's also about how long it takes to smoke a whole joint
But then I'm sure you know all of this
Oh okay
Louis CK on smoking a joint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8FzGlgVGdo
That would be for me personally......I don't like the "one hit wonder".....I actually like the smoking experience,and the taste , like a cigar ....slow smoker.....I was the only one that was never exited when "good shit" was scored. I would be like, "got any regs ?"
I really don't care what other people do, and I can see the point about money saved due to law enforcement. But I really wonder if there would be any actual tax revenue. I mean do people think that the dealer on the corner is going to start carrying a cash register with him and issuing receipts and charging sales tax? Or that the guy with the grow house is going to start keeping detailed records of his revenue and expenses so he can claim the money he makes on his income tax and make deductions for equipment he has to buy?
As to potency, YES! The stuff our guy gets us is consistently strong and worth every dollar.
No wonder Jojo left his home in Tucson, Arizona for some California grass
but still not many studies and in the big scheme of things very recent.
And yes of course example is the point I am making. I have set my examples for my children
but it's not too late for you and young parents or the parents yet to be.
Who would ever want their kids to be drug addicts or pot smokers if they had the choice?
Oh and they do. Parents make the child or they break the child... their choice.
What do I think about this?
Well, I think that it would certainly bring in revenue and it would cut law enforcement costs. That's on the plus side of the argument.
On the negative side, I think that if it became legal to smoke marijauna there might possibly be a rise in people smoking it and in the long run, it might create a whole group of people who lose their drive. I know that sounds like I'm being too cautious but, I do think it's a real concern.
People who smoke a lot don't DO much. :? That's a problem!!!!! :wtf:
I've often thought about the less drive thing. I know pot smokers who would probably benefit from being a little more driven but I also believe that there are many people for whom I would like to see less drive. Developers for instance. Their mind set is, "Let's build another shopping mall- not because we need one but because its what we do- build build build." Holy smoke- give these people some good smoke. Maybe they'll stop paving the world over.
In the long run, I think people find their pace whatever it may be. One thing for sure, if pot and alcohol traded places in terms of popularity and usage we would have a less violent world with fewer conflicts and less fighting- not to mention a reduction in alcohol related illness.
And actually, when I come home and want to decompress, there's not one thing wrong with doing so with a bowl of the sticky.
People that want to smoke weed already do; the legalization of it wouldn't, I believe, encourage others to follow the leader.
It's crazy to me that shit like oxycontin, vicoden, xanax, etc.......are freely prescribed and gobbled up, yet something natural with so many benefits (recreational side included) is viewed as it is.
*edit to Brian - I used to work for a developer who got high (I even supplied him) - trust me, it makes no difference