Is learning cursive writing still important?

JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
edited April 2013 in A Moving Train
Is handwriting still important? The digital generation skips penmanship

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22157892

As interactive technology becomes ubiquitous around the globe, some experts warn that formal handwriting may soon diminish, rendering the penmanship a relic of the past.

Fears of handwriting's demise prompted North Carolina Congresswoman Pat Hurley to draft a bill, mandating that script be taught in all elementary schools in the state. It passed unanimously in the state House earlier this month.

But Jeffrey Reaser, associate professor of linguistics at North Carolina State University, says a sense of "nostalgia" is not enough reason to force students to learn something that's "not crucial to their education".

Meanwhile, some classrooms in the state have begun teaching students handwriting on iPads and iPods.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    No, it's not at all.

    Heck, I'm 38, and besides signing my name (which is basically a scribble), I can't remember the last time I wrote something in cursive. It likely was in school.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I fear it will go the way of "proper" English and language in general.

    Penmanship (ie, writing by hand but not necessarily cursive) is still important as not everything is digitized. As much as I work on the computer, I still do some writing by hand in my little mix of printing and cursive (plus, what about cards, letters, etc.? Does no one send actual physical cards for birthdays and the like anymore?).

    One thing I have noticed though, is that my writing hand gets tired much quicker than it used to.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Handwritting or just cursive writting? I stopped using cursive in the 10th grade but I couldn't imagine handwritting ever going away.

    I remember I had to pen an oath to the college that accepted me that needed to be in cursive ... It took me five tries before I got everything right because I had forgetten how certain letters formed.

    I'm glad I was able to do it at home ... if a university official was watching me struggle that probably would have had second thoughts about letting me in.

    :fp: :lol:
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Just think, if future generations can't read or write cursive, they won't be able to read any of the formal documents written in cursive by our forefathers, let alone any historical document (in cursive).
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Just think, if future generations can't read or write cursive, they won't be able to read any of the formal documents written in cursive by our forefathers, let alone any historical document (in cursive).
    There's an app for that ....

    :fp: :lol:
  • jasonjason Posts: 468
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Just think, if future generations can't read or write cursive, they won't be able to read any of the formal documents written in cursive by our forefathers, let alone any historical document (in cursive).

    That is what Google is for. Copy and paste it in to a cursive translator and BAM, there it is. Not an issue when we live in an age where our phones can talk, take HD photos, be a GPS system.
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,692
    Jason P wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Just think, if future generations can't read or write cursive, they won't be able to read any of the formal documents written in cursive by our forefathers, let alone any historical document (in cursive).
    There's an app for that ....

    :fp: :lol:

    HA! Great point.

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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Jason P wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Just think, if future generations can't read or write cursive, they won't be able to read any of the formal documents written in cursive by our forefathers, let alone any historical document (in cursive).
    There's an app for that ....

    :fp: :lol:

    :fp:

    Really? Do we really want to just completely, 100% rely on digital technology including reading and writing script? REALLY???

    What do you do when your computer / signal is down? Wait??
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    I can't write in cursive very well & probably forgot many of the letters shapes. the letter z was a stupid letter in cursive. some people write in both cursive & print to form a sentence. these ppl are fun.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    chadwick wrote:
    I can't write in cursive very well & probably forgot many of the letters shapes. the letter z was a stupid letter in cursive. some people write in both cursive & print to form a sentence. these ppl are fun.

    Gotta agree, Z and Q I can't say I've ever really used. I write calligraphy and these two letters aren't much different when writing, but cursive is completely different. :lol:
  • I put cursive writing up there with calligraphy and latin in terms of importance. Is it nice to know; sure. Is it necessary? I would be hesitant to say that cursive writing is an essential skill in a digital age. being able to print should suffice for this coming generation.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Other than to sign your name, no, its not a relevant form of writing. With email, texting, and any other way to type and transmit information, there's no need for it.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Just think, if future generations can't read or write cursive, they won't be able to read any of the formal documents written in cursive by our forefathers, let alone any historical document (in cursive).
    There's an app for that ....

    :fp: :lol:

    :fp:

    Really? Do we really want to just completely, 100% rely on digital technology including reading and writing script? REALLY???

    What do you do when your computer / signal is down? Wait??

    In the case of a computer down, printing is just as effective as cursive.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    kids should use a quill pen & inkwell as they study the art of cursive as some mean old quaker (buckle shoes & all) guides them along nicely.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    chadwick wrote:
    I can't write in cursive very well & probably forgot many of the letters shapes. the letter z was a stupid letter in cursive. some people write in both cursive & print to form a sentence. these ppl are fun.
    :P

    I write a cursive Q like a big ol' 2.

    This kinda reminds me of when a cashier goes down and the person must do the math either in their head or by hand.

    (but HOW?)

    Some of my most beloved tangibles are handwritten cards and notes I've received throughout my life. I love how the physical style of writing is so entwined with the person, the personality. They mean more to me than anything I've ever received via email.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    hedonist wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    I can't write in cursive very well & probably forgot many of the letters shapes. the letter z was a stupid letter in cursive. some people write in both cursive & print to form a sentence. these ppl are fun.
    :P

    I write a cursive Q like a big ol' 2.

    This kinda reminds me of when a cashier goes down and the person must do the math either in their head or by hand.

    (but HOW?)

    Some of my most beloved tangibles are handwritten cards and notes I've received throughout my life. I love how the physical style of writing is so entwined with the person, the personality. They mean more to me than anything I've ever received via email.
    yes. letters, cards, artwork, all extremely important. kids need this stuff. it is a skill to be capable of nice writing. it cannot not be taught. communication a must
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i still print every day at work. i sometimes use cursive, though it is a bastardized form of cursive, as i have made my own changes/improvements on the accepted traditional cursive script...

    :geek:
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  • Pjzepp67Pjzepp67 Posts: 445
    hedonist wrote:
    I fear it will go the way of "proper" English and language in general.

    Penmanship (ie, writing by hand but not necessarily cursive) is still important as not everything is digitized. As much as I work on the computer, I still do some writing by hand in my little mix of printing and cursive (plus, what about cards, letters, etc.? Does no one send actual physical cards for birthdays and the like anymore?).

    One thing I have noticed though, is that my writing hand gets tired much quicker than it used to.

    Maybe not just the writing thats causing the tiredness !!! :lol:
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Pjzepp67 wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    I fear it will go the way of "proper" English and language in general.

    Penmanship (ie, writing by hand but not necessarily cursive) is still important as not everything is digitized. As much as I work on the computer, I still do some writing by hand in my little mix of printing and cursive (plus, what about cards, letters, etc.? Does no one send actual physical cards for birthdays and the like anymore?).

    One thing I have noticed though, is that my writing hand gets tired much quicker than it used to.

    Maybe not just the writing thats causing the tiredness !!! :lol:
    :mrgreen:

    I'm a woman - no carpal tunnel here!

    ("Ve haff vays!" 8-) )
  • Pjzepp67Pjzepp67 Posts: 445
    hedonist wrote:
    Pjzepp67 wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    I fear it will go the way of "proper" English and language in general.

    Penmanship (ie, writing by hand but not necessarily cursive) is still important as not everything is digitized. As much as I work on the computer, I still do some writing by hand in my little mix of printing and cursive (plus, what about cards, letters, etc.? Does no one send actual physical cards for birthdays and the like anymore?).

    One thing I have noticed though, is that my writing hand gets tired much quicker than it used to.

    Maybe not just the writing thats causing the tiredness !!! :lol:
    :mrgreen:

    I'm a woman - no carpal tunnel here!

    ("Ve haff vays!" 8-) )

    You go girl...we live in liberated times... :o
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,458
    Cursive sucks and should be abolished.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    Last year I was giving a piano lesson to a middle schooler. She commented on my handwriting as I was writing in her notebook. And as we started talking about handwriting , she told me that the public schools in Florida only teach them to print. :|

    I was surprised and a bit sad about that piece of news.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    i still print every day at work. i sometimes use cursive, though it is a bastardized form of cursive, as i have made my own changes/improvements on the accepted traditional cursive script...

    :geek:


    :lol: me too
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,608
    This reminds me of my childhood days with my mother everynight she would help me with cursive writting i wish i could have those moments back , anybody wan't to start a letter writting club i haven't written a letter in decades ....
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    It is, and I don't say that just because I'm "old school" in many ways but because I believe it is important to keep all basic skills alive- writing and printing by hand, sewing, cooking, using hand tools, reading books from cover to cover, gardening, caring for animals, etc., because these are some of the things that make us human. I also believe doing things by hand help keep us more balanced mentally and psychologically. Getting lost in the machine is bad for the head- at least that's what I believe.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    brianlux wrote:
    It is, and I don't say that just because I'm "old school" in many ways but because I believe it is important to keep all basic skills alive- writing and printing by hand, sewing, cooking, using hand tools, reading books from cover to cover, gardening, caring for animals, etc., because these are some of the things that make us human. I also believe doing things by hand help keep us more balanced mentally and psychologically. Getting lost in the machine is bad for the head- at least that's what I believe.

    I'm old school too....and I agree that our domestic basic home skills are still needed today. I believe in the future they come a time where those skills will be a necessity due an apocalytic end of the world event. Where those in the know of these skills will have a better chance of survival. When the digital technology is down we should have basic skills to fall back unto to carry on.

    I teach my kids simple day to day skills from sewing, ironing to how to properly hold and eat with a knife and fork. The two older teens can write in cursive and youngest has no clue. So I just took out a pad just to see if I still could write in cursive and I can very well. As I look at it it's a very sexy way of writing and on my next romantic card ill write it in cursive. When I write in cursive I take my time to properly form the letters and its beautiful. Thanks bringing me back to my distant past of such a cool writing school.

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  • I never became great at cursive writing. At the moment I can't remember how each letter should look like in cursive.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i still print every day at work. i sometimes use cursive, though it is a bastardized form of cursive, as i have made my own changes/improvements on the accepted traditional cursive script...

    :geek:
    :lol:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    brianlux wrote:
    It is, and I don't say that just because I'm "old school" in many ways but because I believe it is important to keep all basic skills alive- writing and printing by hand, sewing, cooking, using hand tools, reading books from cover to cover, gardening, caring for animals, etc., because these are some of the things that make us human. I also believe doing things by hand help keep us more balanced mentally and psychologically. Getting lost in the machine is bad for the head- at least that's what I believe.
    thank you
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    It would be interesting to see how many of us here remember these and as kids used them in class:

    cursiveassignment_zps75d12fd3.jpg

    Once in a while I'll come across an old book that is either inscribed or has the former owners name written in it and quite often, the older the book, the more beautiful the cursive writing.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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