Obama administration lied about drone targets

Idris

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

no, it isn't, but it would be odd for the US to take a position of peace and indifference at this point. how would a schoolyard of angry and bitter kids react if the bully all of a sudden stopped bullying? probably attack thinking it was a sign of weakness to make sure it doesn't start bullying again.

neither side will stop until everyone is eliminated. basically everyone involved in this shit is a fucking terrorist now.

It would be odd for the US to take a position of peace , at 'any' point considering it's bloodied history.

As far as a sign of weakness, well, we should at least try it, while keeping ourselves wary.

But (I feel) Mostly that a Sign of weakness is an ego thing. I don't wanna look weak cause I may get attacked. So I'm just gonna continue attacking. kinda backwards logic.

But we clearly see that war is not the answer, so perhaps it's time to try other methods. Feel me?
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The US needs to take a couple steps back before moving forward,

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Idris wrote:

It would be odd for the US to take a position of peace , at 'any' point considering it's bloodied history.

As far as a sign of weakness, well, we should at least try it, while keeping ourselves wary.

But (I feel) Mostly that a Sign of weakness is an ego thing. I don't wanna look weak cause I may get attacked. So I'm just gonna continue attacking. kinda backwards logic.

But we clearly see that war is not the answer, so perhaps it's time to try other methods. Feel me?
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The US needs to take a couple steps back before moving forward,

I mean that, as much as I hate to say it, the US has become the world police, whether we like it or not. I really believe that if the US wasn't feared/respected/hated as much as it is, that another Hitler may have emerged already.

Idris

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I mean that, as much as I hate to say it, the US has become the world police, whether we like it or not. I really believe that if the US wasn't feared/respected/hated as much as it is, that another Hitler may have emerged already.

Sadly another 'hitler' has emerged, it's us. What I mean by that is, we are 'the bad guys'.

Nothing Hitler did, was any worse than what the US has done through out it's years. In fact, Hitler learned a few things from the US, to go a little deeper, we supported Hitler and the Nazis, via our industries (for example)

We are only the worlds police cause we think we are above everyone else, we are not the worlds police cause we are the 'good' guys. It's because we want control, so we can enhance our own position and power.
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Hugh Freaking Dillon

Idris wrote:

Sadly another 'hitler' has emerged, it's us. What I mean by that is, we are 'the bad guys'.

Nothing Hitler did, was any worse than what the US has done through out it's years. In fact, Hitler learned a few things from the US, to go a little deeper, we supported Hitler and the Nazis, via our industries (for example)

We are only the worlds police cause we think we are above everyone else, we are not the worlds police cause we are the 'good' guys. It's because we want control, so we can enhance our own position and power.
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while I vehemetly oppose american foreign policy, I would never compare them in any serious context to hitler. the US is not committing genocide of any kind that I know of. I know the US are not the "good guys". All I'm saying is that they've created a position for themselves in the world where so much of the world depends on them that they have become the necessary evil.

Idris

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

while I vehemetly oppose american foreign policy, I would never compare them in any serious context to hitler. the US is not committing genocide of any kind that I know of. I know the US are not the "good guys". All I'm saying is that they've created a position for themselves in the world where so much of the world depends on them that they have become the necessary evil.

I agree with the 'all im saying' part. You are right, the US is a necessary evil, but they are only 'necessary' cause we refuse to truly change these conditions. We keep on supporting the same corrupt system of oligarchs.
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Hitler killed innocent people, the US killed/kills innocent people. Does it matter that the US now does it with Depleted Uranium and drones? Cancers rising, the skin of people melting off etc etc. Things that we have done that will destroy the lives of generations of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It's really the same thing,

I mean, the US has supported governments that have wiped out entire villages. You know, it just goes on and on.