The Doors Revisited

brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,058
edited August 2013 in Other Music
I've always liked The Doors. Nothing unusual there. But until recently, I hadn't listened to The Doors much at all for several years. Old memories, strange days, misguided trips down dark corridors. The music was always great- it just got too hard at times to outrun the ghosts.

But then recently I picked up from a shelf this book that I've had sitting around for several years: Rimbaud and Jim Morrison, The Rebel as Poet by Wallace Fowlie. In 1968 Fowlie received a letter from Morrison thanking him for his English translation of the works of Rimbaud. To Fowlie, this Morrison fellow was some rock singer he knew next to nothing about... until years later when a student of Fowlie's turned him on to the music of the Doors and Fowlie recognized the influence of Rimbaud on Morrison's lyrics.

It's a fascinating book and one for which I am most grateful- it led me back to the music and a new appreciation for this great band. It's nice to take it all in again with new ears, dancing instead of running from shadows.
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    What do you think of Jim Morrison's own poetry? I can't recall if you said already.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,058
    STAYSEA wrote:
    What do you think of Jim Morrison's own poetry? I can't recall if you said already.

    Morrison was a great poet. When he moved to France, that is what he wanted to be known as, not as a rock singer. Much of it is Rimbaudian, and much is definitely visionary. Horse Latitudes is my favorite but so many are excellent. I wish I knew French so I could enjoy Rimbaud on the same level. So much is lost in translation.
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  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    I love The Doors too, I like the whole weird darkness thing, it was fun stuff though as you mention sometimes dark. I wasn't a fan ofJim's poetry as sometimes it sounded like drunk ramblings though fun in a crazy silly way. I loved American Prayer, very beatnik, funny.
  • KatKat Posts: 4,872
    This thread looks like a good place to post a link I came across. Rock and science...love them both.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/05/us/climat ... le_sidebar

    The Bearded King Morrison

    It's a good name. :)
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  • greedygreedy Posts: 140
    Happy to see a Doors thread. Last night I was watching their live version of "The End" from the Bowl in 1968, its an incredible version and a great live show overall. Along with an incredibly talented band, Morrison created pictures with his intense, vivid words. He always wanted to be known as a Poet versus a singer but to me they come hand in hand.

    Rimbaud was a major influence on him as the poster above mentioned, just read Drunken Boat/Season in Hell and you will see that. If you read any philosophy from Nietzsche you will see a lot of draw from him as well. Like others, he passed much too young and was well beyond his time both mentally and socially. He was a rare talent that was misunderstood or overlooked in his days.

    Anyway, the Doors were a great band and once you get into them you will be lead down many paths, its quite fun.

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  • F5AgainstOneF5AgainstOne Posts: 1,462
    I first got into The Doors back in 1984. I have loved them ever since. However, I hadn't really listened to them much in the last 10 years until recently. I just started collecting the vinyl versions of their albums (the 2009 re-issues) a few months before Ray passed on. I just ordered the last Album to complete my collection last night (Hollywood Bowl).

    I had always thought of Jim Morrison as being 27 years old when I listened to the doors in the earlier years.
    It occurred to me the other night as I was listening to their debut:
    The band formed in '65, recorded its debut in August of '66 - released in January of '67.
    That puts Jim at age 21 as they wrote those songs, 22 at the time of recording.
    Thinking about this as I listen, makes me appreciate it on a whole new level (it intrigues me when people have that kind of talent so early on).
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,058
    Kat wrote:
    This thread looks like a good place to post a link I came across. Rock and science...love them both.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/05/us/climat ... le_sidebar

    The Bearded King Morrison

    It's a good name. :)

    Fascinating! Cool article, KAT. :D Morrison was a bit of a climate change himself, wasn't he? 8-)
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,058
    greedy wrote:
    Happy to see a Doors thread. Last night I was watching their live version of "The End" from the Bowl in 1968, its an incredible version and a great live show overall. Along with an incredibly talented band, Morrison created pictures with his intense, vivid words. He always wanted to be known as a Poet versus a singer but to me they come hand in hand.

    Rimbaud was a major influence on him as the poster above mentioned, just read Drunken Boat/Season in Hell and you will see that. If you read any philosophy from Nietzsche you will see a lot of draw from him as well. Like others, he passed much too young and was well beyond his time both mentally and socially. He was a rare talent that was misunderstood or overlooked in his days.

    Anyway, the Doors were a great band and once you get into them you will be lead down many paths, its quite fun.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4BiXUey-SE

    Very cool mention of the influences of Rimbaud and Nietzsche on Morrison. Image just getting out of high school, having read all of both of them and who know what all else, and then stirring in Huxley (and what ever else!) as the final catalyst. "Dangerous and brilliant", as Depp put it in "When Your Strange." (Oh man, love that movie- over and again.)

    The Wallace Fowlie mentioned at the top of this gets a little pedantic at times but makes for good reading and the stories about the Fowlie/Rimbaud/Morrison connections at the outset alone are worth the read!
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  • I'm on a big Doors kick lately. Have been for a while now. Listened to them a lot in my younger days when sitting around with buddies smoking weed. But then they fell to the wayside when Nirvana/PJ came around. Favourite album, Brian?
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    How can u not like the doors or mr Morrison? Wish I saw them before.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,058
    edited April 2015

    I'm on a big Doors kick lately. Have been for a while now. Listened to them a lot in my younger days when sitting around with buddies smoking weed. But then they fell to the wayside when Nirvana/PJ came around. Favourite album, Brian?

    Tough question but I have to go with Morrison Hotel. The first time I heard "Land Ho!" I nearly flipped. And "Indian Summer" (which was actually an early recording if I remember right)- in the right mood- oh man!

    What's your favorite, Hugh?

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  • brianlux said:

    I'm on a big Doors kick lately. Have been for a while now. Listened to them a lot in my younger days when sitting around with buddies smoking weed. But then they fell to the wayside when Nirvana/PJ came around. Favourite album, Brian?

    Tough question but I have to go with Morrison Hotel. The first time I heard "Land Ho!" I nearly flipped. And "Indian Summer" (which was actually an early recording if I remember right)- in the right mood- oh man!

    What's your favorite, Hugh?

    Not sure yet. Back in my teens, we mainly listened to the greatest hits. I am just now starting to listen to the proper albums.

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  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,360
    I got addicted to the band when the movie The Doors came out in 1991. Went out and bought all their cds. This was when cd's were just becoming the new big thing. Bought and still have Morrisons 2 books of poetry. They were my favorite band until I heard Ten in the summer of 1993.
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    I got addicted to the band when the movie The Doors came out in 1991. Went out and bought all their cds. This was when cd's were just becoming the new big thing. Bought and still have Morrisons 2 books of poetry. They were my favorite band until I heard Ten in the summer of 1993.

    I'm Like you. Grew up a casual fan of the band. Memories of riding in the car with dad in the summer, windows rolled down, rocking out to "Break on Through " or "Light my Fire". But that movie changed my perception of them from being a good classic rock band to be simply one of the all time great bands, period. And I'm sorry fellow Pearl Jam fans, but I think it's hard to dispute that their debut album was the greatest in the history of rock and roll.

  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    I love Jim's poetry. I teach "Horse Latitudes" to my 6th graders every year during our poetry unit. The recording of Jim reciting the poem usually scares them at first, but once we go over the meaning and why Jim sounds so upset in it, they get it and love it. I usually have requests to play it two or three more times at the end of class.
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