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AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
edited March 2013 in A Moving Train
You Go Obama!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/21/politics/ ... ?hpt=hp_t1
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Abuskedti wrote:
    You Go Obama!

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/21/politics/ ... ?hpt=hp_t1


    I read this earlier, sounds like a great speech.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    I think I stopped at 'historical' right.

    But it's all talk. Stop veto-ing anything and everything that goes 'against' Israel and maybe one will be able to start thinking that this talk actually means something.

    I would like to see positive action and not just positive speech.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    well ... he admits what has been painfully obvious ... the only people that can truly create peace are the israelis ... and he basically said they need to stop pandering to these right wing zionists ...
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    polaris_x wrote:
    well ... he admits what has been painfully obvious ... the only people that can truly create peace are the israelis ... and he basically said they need to stop pandering to these right wing zionists ...

    So why does he support them so?? He panders just as much.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    redrock wrote:
    So why does he support them so?? He panders just as much.

    honestly ... he's the POTUS ... and i'm being serious here - he has very little power ... in so much as it relates to progressive ideals ... he can definitely do a lot of shitty things but as far as good things ... he's got no pull ... when a country is operated by corporations and special interests groups - the POTUS must abide by the rules they put forth ... so, he can make all the speeches he wants ... and he knows whenever the next round of UN votes comes around - they will vote no as usual ...

    for there to be peace between israel and palestine ... every day israelis must want it ... they must be courageous in the face of fear and propaganda ... it's the only way ...
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    there is definately a very big benefit in the President of the United States saying it out loud for everyone to hear and analyze. It is a fact, that should have been known and corrected 50 years ago. It is the greatest threat to peace by far.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    words are useless unless immediately followed by actions.

    obama can't stand up to the republicans to help fix his own country, how is he going to have enough influence to make israel hold up their end of the bargain to create a just peace with 2 states? he is talking out of his ass to one of the two sides. as with all past presidents, i am thinking he is supporting israel and just paying lip service to the palestinians. if he was serious, he would not give israel 3 billion bucks a year to help israel fund their iron dome and other weapons and military aid. if he were serious, he would threaten to keep that money unless israel agrees to halt settlement expansion. all he has to do is stop giving them money and they might listen to what the rest of the world is saying.

    anyone see what the heckler said?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Heard it before, gonna hear it again. Blah blah blah empty talk. It's so fucken lame, the ENTIRE WORLD has said this for how MANY years now? And the ENTIRE world is WRONG except America and Israel. Amazing. What people can get away with this days. :fp:
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